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« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2012, 01:43:28 PM » |
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Fire half the Federal workforce (not military) and departments like we should, they would not have time to waste on this nonsense.
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« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2012, 02:09:25 PM » |
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Fire half the Federal workforce (not military) and departments like we should, they would not have time to waste on this nonsense.
Cant, cause that makes sence. 
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« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2012, 03:05:17 PM » |
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I usually just let the ants clean the grill. Also, my plunger is dishwasher safe.
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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2012, 03:11:33 PM » |
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I've wanted to start an outlaw Lawn Dart league for some time to protest the government intrusion in our lives...
(Lawn darts, for those who remember them, were banned by the federal government in 1988 (And in Canada in 1989)).
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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2012, 03:15:32 PM » |
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I've wanted to start an outlaw Lawn Dart league for some time to protest the government intrusion in our lives...
(Lawn darts, for those who remember them, were banned by the federal government in 1988 (And in Canada in 1989)).
They banned the "sale" of them in 1988..... but my Jarts ain't going no where. Where do I sign up for the league.....  Actually some localities have banned outdoor grilling, but not as a result of this cleaning brush thing, but as a result of a fire threat. I think consumer awareness about the bristles coming loose is something to be concerned about. I personally use a piece of balled up tin foil to clean the grille.
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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2012, 03:18:07 PM » |
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Instead of lawn darts we would shoot arrows in the air and see where they land. Got a scar on my left arm. Guess I lost! 
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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2012, 07:01:30 PM » |
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Fire half the Federal workforce (not military) and departments like we should, they would not have time to waste on this nonsense.
I was just saying the other night that no gov't job should be a full time job. They have to continually justify their positions so they seek out nonsense to "regulate". Salt, light bulbs, cup sizes, etc, etc,. We can't fire them because then we'll have to pay for 3 years of unemployment for all of them. And think of all the tax money, um, investment money we would save by cutting all those salaries in half, electric bills, fuel bills, office supply bills, and everything else that could be cut in half by eliminating all these full time positions.
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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2012, 07:12:53 PM » |
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We can't fire them because then we'll have to pay for 3 years of unemployment for all of them.
Even so, we'd be way ahead.
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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2012, 07:49:47 PM » |
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Fire half the Federal workforce (not military) and departments like we should, they would not have time to waste on this nonsense.
I was just saying the other night that no gov't job should be a full time job. They have to continually justify their positions so they seek out nonsense to "regulate". Salt, light bulbs, cup sizes, etc, etc,. We can't fire them because then we'll have to pay for 3 years of unemployment for all of them. And think of all the tax money, um, investment money we would save by cutting all those salaries in half, electric bills, fuel bills, office supply bills, and everything else that could be cut in half by eliminating all these full time positions. My wife is a Federal worker and spends not 1 minute justifying her job. She isn't an elected official, maybe those are the jobs you were referring to. She doesn't regulate anything except how many motorcycles I can have at any given moment!
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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2012, 08:15:19 PM » |
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I was a civil servant for 18 years doing a job that was required by law; and we had to work hard all day every day. I still saw tremendous waste. Many jobs are necessary, many are not.............. that's why I said to only fire half of them. The problem with the Fed is not just elected officials, it is the huge and ever growing Fed bureaucracy and multiple, overlapping departments. No Fed govt should be the largest employer in the land. It is because of the Fed govt, that only Fed govt jobs/pensions/benefits are secure anymore. For every law that passes both houses and is signed into law, thousands of regulations are created by unelected bureaucrats (take a look at the size of the CFR........ code of federal regulations). And a high percentage of career bureaucrats are certain they are smarter than you and happy to regulate how you live, work, spend, and breathe. We need a smarter (elected) but smaller Govt. Half all at once would probably be too traumatic, so fire 5% a year for 10 years, requiring them to prioritize only essential jobs and departments. Now where did I put my bong?
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« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2012, 10:01:08 AM » |
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Fire half the Federal workforce (not military) and departments like we should, they would not have time to waste on this nonsense.
I was just saying the other night that no gov't job should be a full time job. They have to continually justify their positions so they seek out nonsense to "regulate". Salt, light bulbs, cup sizes, etc, etc,. We can't fire them because then we'll have to pay for 3 years of unemployment for all of them. And think of all the tax money, um, investment money we would save by cutting all those salaries in half, electric bills, fuel bills, office supply bills, and everything else that could be cut in half by eliminating all these full time positions. My wife is a Federal worker and spends not 1 minute justifying her job. She isn't an elected official, maybe those are the jobs you were referring to. She doesn't regulate anything except how many motorcycles I can have at any given moment! Yes, I was specifically referring to those in positions who make regulatory decisions. But since you mentioned it,...their staff would need to be cut to part time as well. And it could have a ripple effect to other gov't jobs. I apologize, but I don't see a bad side for the country. Yes, it could be bad for you guys if it rippled to her job, and I don't wish hardship on anyone, but our oversized is part of our problem. I know that the military is a hot topic when it comes to cuts, and I am not suggesting that, I am just throwing out a fact for discussion, or not.............The Pentagon is the largest office building in the country. And that does not include all of the military bases, recruitment centers, and offices all around the world.
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« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2012, 10:24:40 AM » |
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Fire half the Federal workforce (not military) and departments like we should, they would not have time to waste on this nonsense.
I was just saying the other night that no gov't job should be a full time job. They have to continually justify their positions so they seek out nonsense to "regulate". Salt, light bulbs, cup sizes, etc, etc,. We can't fire them because then we'll have to pay for 3 years of unemployment for all of them. And think of all the tax money, um, investment money we would save by cutting all those salaries in half, electric bills, fuel bills, office supply bills, and everything else that could be cut in half by eliminating all these full time positions. My wife is a Federal worker and spends not 1 minute justifying her job. She isn't an elected official, maybe those are the jobs you were referring to. She doesn't regulate anything except how many motorcycles I can have at any given moment! Yes, I was specifically referring to those in positions who make regulatory decisions. But since you mentioned it,...their staff would need to be cut to part time as well. And it could have a ripple effect to other gov't jobs. I apologize, but I don't see a bad side for the country. Yes, it could be bad for you guys if it rippled to her job, and I don't wish hardship on anyone, but our oversized is part of our problem. I know that the military is a hot topic when it comes to cuts, and I am not suggesting that, I am just throwing out a fact for discussion, or not.............The Pentagon is the largest office building in the country. And that does not include all of the military bases, recruitment centers, and offices all around the world. The military is trimming the fat so to speak. Look at the force levels coming down, with early separations/retirements and just an overall reduction as a result of the withdrawal of troops. That happens all the time, build up and draw down. There are other government military positions, within the Pentagon that could or should also reduce their levels, but that most likely doesn't happen (I can neither confirm nor deny that). The Civil Service or Civilian Government Employee sector however grown and grown I think (just look at all the Czars O brought into office). Those are the positions that we should consider reducing. Government has just grown too big and I agree that no Government should be the largest employer in the land..... but also look at your local governments and their staffs, forces etc.... that impacts your local tax base as well. 100 years ago (which really isn't that long ago) we didn't have but a fraction of the taxes we have now...... and there were no or less rules about open fires or grill brushes too.
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« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2012, 10:59:38 AM » |
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Fire half the Federal workforce (not military) and departments like we should, they would not have time to waste on this nonsense.
I was just saying the other night that no gov't job should be a full time job. They have to continually justify their positions so they seek out nonsense to "regulate". Salt, light bulbs, cup sizes, etc, etc,. We can't fire them because then we'll have to pay for 3 years of unemployment for all of them. And think of all the tax money, um, investment money we would save by cutting all those salaries in half, electric bills, fuel bills, office supply bills, and everything else that could be cut in half by eliminating all these full time positions. My wife is a Federal worker and spends not 1 minute justifying her job. She isn't an elected official, maybe those are the jobs you were referring to. She doesn't regulate anything except how many motorcycles I can have at any given moment! Yes, I was specifically referring to those in positions who make regulatory decisions. But since you mentioned it,...their staff would need to be cut to part time as well. And it could have a ripple effect to other gov't jobs. I apologize, but I don't see a bad side for the country. Yes, it could be bad for you guys if it rippled to her job, and I don't wish hardship on anyone, but our oversized is part of our problem. I know that the military is a hot topic when it comes to cuts, and I am not suggesting that, I am just throwing out a fact for discussion, or not.............The Pentagon is the largest office building in the country. And that does not include all of the military bases, recruitment centers, and offices all around the world. The military is trimming the fat so to speak. Look at the force levels coming down, with early separations/retirements and just an overall reduction as a result of the withdrawal of troops. That happens all the time, build up and draw down. There are other government military positions, within the Pentagon that could or should also reduce their levels, but that most likely doesn't happen (I can neither confirm nor deny that). The Civil Service or Civilian Government Employee sector however grown and grown I think (just look at all the Czars O brought into office). Those are the positions that we should consider reducing. Government has just grown too big and I agree that no Government should be the largest employer in the land..... but also look at your local governments and their staffs, forces etc.... that impacts your local tax base as well. 100 years ago (which really isn't that long ago) we didn't have but a fraction of the taxes we have now...... and there were no or less rules about open fires or grill brushes too. +1.
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« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2012, 12:57:31 PM » |
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Sounds like the dude needs a Hot/Sharp object waiver. Federal review of "GRILL BRUSH SAFETY"!!!!!!!!!! wtfffffffffff Nothing better for the FED to worry about? Watch the video and pass the test with a 40 or above before you get the key to unlock your federally protected from you grill. C'mon clown, try to be smarter than a CAVEMAN!!! (Sam Kinneson font there.)
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« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2012, 01:51:00 PM » |
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I've wanted to start an outlaw Lawn Dart league for some time to protest the government intrusion in our lives...
(Lawn darts, for those who remember them, were banned by the federal government in 1988 (And in Canada in 1989)).
LAWN DARTS! I think a rack on the handlebars that holds at least three of them would be a great standoff weapon for encroaching cage drivers.
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« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2012, 08:31:42 PM » |
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I've wanted to start an outlaw Lawn Dart league for some time to protest the government intrusion in our lives...
(Lawn darts, for those who remember them, were banned by the federal government in 1988 (And in Canada in 1989)).
they can have my jarts when they pry them out of my cold dead fingers. I'm going elk hunting with them next year 
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« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2012, 08:36:24 PM » |
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Fire half the Federal workforce (not military) and departments like we should, they would not have time to waste on this nonsense.
I was just saying the other night that no gov't job should be a full time job. They have to continually justify their positions so they seek out nonsense to "regulate". Salt, light bulbs, cup sizes, etc, etc,. We can't fire them because then we'll have to pay for 3 years of unemployment for all of them. And think of all the tax money, um, investment money we would save by cutting all those salaries in half, electric bills, fuel bills, office supply bills, and everything else that could be cut in half by eliminating all these full time positions. oh we have a winner! you have EXACTLY nailed it from my perspective. they feel the need to justify thier pitifull existence by making stupid rules to protect stupid people. however there is some bleed over to the private sector in middle mangement they aslo need to justify their existence by making your life a living hell.
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