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The 1 Falken Ziex ZE-512 205/65R-16 95H B arrived today. While I'm waiting on my Final drive parts I thought I'd go ahead and mount it. Are there any special steps or mods I need to do or do I treat it like a MT?
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old2soon
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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2012, 05:03:18 PM » |
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I have the identical tire on my I/S.  But it is my second D/S tire and about 18000 miles of running them.  For me the transition was fairly quick-less than 200 miles.  Your results may vary.  When in leans-I E-the twistys-you need a little more effort to stay on your desired course.  For me and some others the learning curve wasn't that steep.  Some have tried and went back to motorcycle specific tires.  The first time you roll the throttle off in a curve she WILL want to go back to vertical.  If your prpared for it(thats why i mentioned it)it's a little surprising-the first time. When you get her back together and road worthy-find a big paved parking lot thats EMPTY.  The reason empty is mentioned-you may need to work on yer slow speed stuff.  Take your time and get comfortable because it is a little different.  And B T W i started at 41 P S I in the 512 ran a bit over 500 miles and now have it at 34-35 P S I and seems to respond rather well. I hope others chime in for you. RIDE SAFE. |
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Fritz The Cat
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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2012, 05:22:55 PM » |
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Thank you, sir. Is it hard to get the tire on the bike? Do you have to mount it without air in it? Will it rub on anything? |
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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2012, 05:30:50 PM » |
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change valve stem ..
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Big Tom 10628
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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2012, 05:33:29 PM » |
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Do the nut cage mod.
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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2012, 06:05:41 PM » |
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change valve stem ..
I knew I forgot something! |
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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2012, 06:13:22 PM » |
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How are you going to balance it? I used Dyna beads and am very happy with it. 17321 miles on it...  Fred. |
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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2012, 06:40:16 PM » |
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Mounting is the same as running a cycle tire. It can be a little tricky getting the wheel in place, but not a big deal.
I removed the nut cages and replaced those bolts with carriage bolts run from the inside of the fender to the outside and have had no problems with rubbing.
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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2012, 06:46:39 PM » |
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Nut Cage, Before Mod.  Nut Cage gone. Gives just a bit more clearance.  |
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Fritz The Cat
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« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2012, 06:48:54 PM » |
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Got Dyna Beads and valve stems arriving tomorrow so should be all set. Gonna take a look at the inside of the fender to see what the bolt situation is. Never thought I'd be going dark side. Life is full of surprises, ain't it. |
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Fritz The Cat
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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2012, 06:50:06 PM » |
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Nut Cage, Before Mod. Nut Cage gone. Gives just a bit more clearance. Thanks for that. |
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2012, 07:09:28 PM » |
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I shoved the unmounted Goodyear up in the fender and I didn't fit...... gasp. Once mounted on the wheel with some air, it gets smaller and fits.... whew. It's a bit of a heavy bastard mounting it yourself, get help and/or wear your best back brace. My two Goodyears balanced on the tire machine with a single small wt on the rim....... less wt than any motorcycle tire in 42 years. New car tire computer production is a near science. I don't use anything, but would use Ride-On over Dyna beads.
I found the learning curve to be 5-600miles..... not hard, just different; counter-steering is your friend. Very little of my riding is straight and level, if yours is, the learning curve will be much shorter. The first dozen times the tire catches a rut/groove or goes over half a hole or manhole cover and the rear end hops a little, you are surprised/alarmed. Don't be, you don't fall down. And don't look back at the tire (it's still there), keep your eyes where you are going. Bike tires will hop too, just not as much. Slow speed precision riding is the hardest riding there is on a motorcycle (that's why all of MSF is inside the box), and the same is true with a car tire. The more often you ride it, the better you get, and the tire breaks in to your machine in time (few thousand miles). Over time, you don't know if you are getting better at it, or the tire is getting better......... it's both.
Oh, and new car tires have release agent just like bike tires, but no new car tire is as slippery as a new bike tire.
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« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2012, 07:20:16 PM » |
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While wrestling the rear tire past the swing arm I found it easier to deflate the tire. Maybe I could have gotten it past the pumpkin but it was really tight and, for me by myself, wasn't worth fighting with. Oh, and don't forget to do the cage nut mod like I did.  |
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old2soon
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« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2012, 07:59:38 AM » |
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On the nut cage mod-just do it. For the little time involved it is well worth the effort. You DO NOT want to find out the hard way i should have done it!!  Granted some running D/S have good results without the mod. BUT yer stuffing a 205-65-16 in there. It will fit. Doing the mod keeps ya from messin up the sidewalls. RIDE SAFE. |
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« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2012, 12:27:20 PM » |
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I have the same tire. 30 psi. No handling issues whatsoever. Normal counter-steer and lean into the turn. The only thing you're going to notice is how much smoother and softer the ride is compared with a MC tire, in addition to the long life and low price. I ride hard and fast on all sorts of road conditions every day rain or shine 108 miles round trip to work and back. I have a stretch of about five miles where the state drug some stump grinders over the surface to smooth out the ruts. Then they painted some lane lines and left it as is with no new asphalt because there is no money for paving. The CT is solid, but the front MC tire is a little squirrelly. You will love this tire. I did the nut cage mod. No clearance issues.
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« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2012, 06:04:58 PM » |
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How to spell DARK. |
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Farther
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« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2012, 10:44:57 AM » |
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I have the identical tire on my I/S. But it is my second D/S tire and about 18000 miles of running them. For me the transition was fairly quick-less than 200 miles. Your results may vary. When in leans-I E-the twistys-you need a little more effort to stay on your desired course. For me and some others the learning curve wasn't that steep. Some have tried and went back to motorcycle specific tires. The first time you roll the throttle off in a curve she WILL want to go back to vertical. If your prpared for it(thats why i mentioned it)it's a little surprising-the first time. When you get her back together and road worthy-find a big paved parking lot thats EMPTY. The reason empty is mentioned-you may need to work on yer slow speed stuff. Take your time and get comfortable because it is a little different. And B T W i started at 41 P S I in the 512 ran a bit over 500 miles and now have it at 34-35 P S I and seems to respond rather well. I hope others chime in for you. RIDE SAFE. What's the deal with all the imoticons? |
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