I miss the old forum

[John G.]

I am sorry but I sure miss the forum's old format.   I do more reading than posting but the format of the old forum was a real joy (IMO) for me.  And having been a member of several other forums the difference was great.  Now we are just like all the others.  And when I think about it---our bikes are different than theirs, so why does our forum have to be like theirs?

When I first joined this forum I quickly learned there were many folks whom I really enjoyed reading their posts.  Though I did not know any of them personally I looked forward to their posts.  With the new format I have not seen a single post from my old favorites because I would have to open each topic and then  look for their input(don't know another way).  And the pictures---- man were they a joy, and immediately I could determine which posts had pics.  Many times I would go to the forum and just scroll down the index to see if there were new pics to view.  Now it's all different for me.             

I know that progress is movement in a particular direction but it can be backwards as well as forward, depending on the goal.  I personally prefer "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".   Anyway, I am sure the powers of the forum knew what they were doing and the reasons and the benefits of the new format.  I guess I just prefer what I am used to and what works for me---that's why my pickup over a new one and it has 367,000 miles on it.  Could that be why we ALL drive Valkyries?????  One thing hasn't changed though----the people on the forum are still GREAT folks--- responsive, cooperative and supportive to a fellow Valk driver.  Anyway, time moves on and things change so I have to change with it or be left behind-----but I am sorry-----I still miss the old forum :'(.

                   

[fudgie]

It took alittle bit for me to get the hang of it but its good now. But your right. I don't see alot of posts from the others from the old board but have seen new posters since we started this new board. Works for me.

[Bagger John - #3785]

I admin a board which uses this BBS software. It's far easier than WebBBS was when it comes to dealing with SPAMbots and the like.

[R J]

I am sorry but I sure miss the forum's old format.   I do more reading than posting but the format of the old forum was a real joy (IMO) for me.  And having been a member of several other forums the difference was great.  Now we are just like all the others.  And when I think about it---our bikes are different than theirs, so why does our forum have to be like theirs?

When I first joined this forum I quickly learned there were many folks whom I really enjoyed reading their posts.  Though I did not know any of them personally I looked forward to their posts.  With the new format I have not seen a single post from my old favorites because I would have to open each topic and then  look for their input(don't know another way).  And the pictures---- man were they a joy, and immediately I could determine which posts had pics.  Many times I would go to the forum and just scroll down the index to see if there were new pics to view.  Now it's all different for me.             

I know that progress is movement in a particular direction but it can be backwards as well as forward, depending on the goal.  I personally prefer "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".   Anyway, I am sure the powers of the forum knew what they were doing and the reasons and the benefits of the new format.  I guess I just prefer what I am used to and what works for me---that's why my pickup over a new one and it has 367,000 miles on it.  Could that be why we ALL drive Valkyries?????  One thing hasn't changed though----the people on the forum are still GREAT folks--- responsive, cooperative and supportive to a fellow Valk driver.  Anyway, time moves on and things change so I have to change with it or be left behind-----but I am sorry-----I still miss the old forum .

               

This new forum got rid of all the SPAMMERS.   Does ya'll want them back?

This forum is like you say like a lot of others.  You just have to try various tools availabile to ya and you can find the memebers posts that you want to read......

Also, if you can get the posters to use the little camera in the Message Icon, you will know that it contains a photo.

There isn't a photo here, but I used it so you will know what to look for.......

[Willow]

I am sorry but I sure miss the forum's old format.   ...  prefer "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".   ... -----but I am sorry-----I still miss the old forum .

I don't.

Two observations on the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" philosophy:  First and I mean this not to belittle anyone's perspective, if all the world had that viewpoint, we would still be riding around in some very nice horse drawn carriages.  Secondly, it was broken.  Trust me on this one.  You wouldn't miss it so much if you had been deleting, manually, over one hundred spam post PER DAY.

Maybe three observations.  Everything is broken at some level.  Some see it; some don't.

I mean this sincerely.  I sympathize with those of you who miss the familiar.  I don't.

Smileys:        

[Moonshine]

I hear ya! I miss the old board too. But, as was said. At least the spammers are gone.

Just like everything else, once you play around with it and figure it out, it's not bad.

I for one am getting use to it.

[FryeVRCCDS0067]

I agree the layout is not as good as the old board. Most of the posts on this board I never see because as you say, each thread has to be opened in order to do so.  Since I'm on dial-up it would take too much time to open every thread so I just don't read them. I saw all the posts on the old board and then picked which ones to read.

However, I understand it must have been horribly time consuming for the "powers that be" to de-spam the old board and this is better than the alternative of no board at all.

There are many members whose posts I no longer see, both here in the sandbox and on the tech side. I don't know if it's because they quit posting when we changed boards or if I just haven't seen their posts because I haven't opened the right thread. You can search for posts by certain members but it's just as time consuming as opening every thread so I no longer do so.

[Clark]

I MISS THE OLD VRCC MYSELF

[Lyn-Del]

The format of the board has changed, the VRCC has not.  It's still one of the most giving groups of people on the earth. 

The format has changed, like many things in our lives have changed over the years.  Best thing we can do is go on, and look for the good things in the new.

[FryeVRCCDS0067]

The format of the board has changed, the VRCC has not.  It's still one of the most giving groups of people on the earth. 

The format has changed, like many things in our lives have changed over the years.  Best thing we can do is go on, and look for the good things in the new.

Well said.

[solo1]

The format of the board has changed, the VRCC has not.  It's still one of the most giving groups of people on the earth. 

The format has changed, like many things in our lives have changed over the years.  Best thing we can do is go on, and look for the good things in the new.

Well said.

Very well said

[RedValk]

while i respect the other viewpoints....and i feel for them.................I LIKE THIS FORMAT!!!!!!!!!!!

And as someone who runs another site (the Rune board), as Willow said above, i KNOW FOR A FACT.........the people who run this board love this format even more than i like it as a user!!!!!!!!

Sometimes, change and progress IS GOOD. I think the vast majority, once they get/got used to this format, will agree........this change ........was NEEDED......and good!  

[Clark]

The format of the board has changed, the VRCC has not.  It's still one of the most giving groups of people on the earth. 

The format has changed, like many things in our lives have changed over the years.  Best thing we can do is go on, and look for the good things in the new.

allow me to rephrase that.. I miss the people who used to be on the board a few years back B4 some folks got their panties in a wad and drove SEVERAL members away

[Duffy]

I understand a change was needed because of the spam, no problem. 

But, I never go past page one anymore, so I think I miss a lot of posts... The old format was more inviting to check out all the posts of the last couple days...

Oh well, things change. I agree with Lynn Del, same good people, just a different format. 

[3fan4life]

I also feel  that I miss alot of posts with the new format. 


It did seem easier to scroll through the posts with the old format.


However, there are alot more bells and whistles with the new format.

And they're easier to use as well.


Everything is a trade off of some type.


I do miss the look of the old board,

But, I'd have to say that we traded up.

[Hef]

I too liked the old format better, but I certainly understand the advantages of not having the spammers dominate the board. I figure the "change" is what bothers us most. You see, us old fogies are resistance to change in general even though it is probably good for us. I think it is an AGE thing (LOL). My respect and admiration to the admin staff who do such a great job in providing all of us an excellent source for a lot of great information.  Ride Safe, Hef

[Daniel Meyer]

I also feel  that I miss alot of posts with the new format. 

Y'all have noticed that "show all unread posts since last visit" button?

[Six Guns]

I also feel  that I miss alot of posts with the new format. 

Y'all have noticed that "show all unread posts since last visit" button?

Daniel, where would that button be?

[Duey]

Once you figure it out make sure you don't log in and then log out till you have read all the unread ones. It does not shown the ones you missed as not ready since last log in. you will have to go back to the regular format to find them.
I believer the button is in the top header. Don't know for sure since I have had mine set up since near the beginning. Faster than the other way. Good Luck!

[Daniel Meyer]

Daniel, where would that button be?

Depends on which theme you're using...look for something that says "unread" or such near the top. I'm using Scott's multicolor theme and it's on the top right over my avatar.

[bsnicely]

I must admit that I liked the old forum style better, but I do understand the spam problem and all the work admin had to put in and I don't fault them in the least for changing formats. I guess you just get used to something and it is our nature to resist change. I have learned this board fairly well and I am fine with it. Thanks admin for all you do to give us a great place to hang out!!  

P.S.  One thing I really like is being able to edit a post once it is up!!

[Willow]

Once you figure it out make sure you don't log in and then log out till you have read all the unread ones. It does not shown the ones you missed as not ready since last log in. you will have to go back to the regular format to find them.

I've seen others make that comment and I don't really understand it.  I always click the "unread" button to start and the go to the lowest item on the list.  From there I select the "new " button which takes me directly to where I last left off in that thread.  When I've finished with that thread I scroll to the bottom (or the top) of the thread and select "previous".  That takes me to the next most recently updated thread.  I normally continue in that manner, but I can relist anytime by going to the top, selecting "unread" and beginning the process anew.

I also normally select the option to keep me logged in forever when I log on.  I use two or three different computers, and I obviously wouldn't select that option were I to use a public machine or someone else's computer.

I hope that's helpful to someone.  The new board format is more flexible than was the old.  Multiple pictures in a post and ability to edit are big selling points with me. 

[Skeeter (Va)]

I MISS THE OLD VRCC MYSELF

      Me too..Lamonster and all the crowd in that room back when...I'll get over it...

[Scott in Ok]

You know, I'd like to go back to before my dad, uncle and grandparents all passed away.   

But like many of the people who used to post here and are now gone, I can't make them come back any more than I can bring my loved ones back. Bad analogy, to be honest, but just trying to make a point.

Life must go on, and no manner of wishing for the past is going to change things.

-Scott

[Duey]

Typical day.
I  open the home page. Click on The General tab.
I enter my name and password. Since I already have it set to show any unread messages since last visit it opens fine.
The problem begins at this stage. Lets say  got distracted or had to go for a ride.
I have not read all the unread messages yet. But I log out. (It's a shared computer)
When I get back I repeat the sign in. When I get to the page showing the unread messages the ones I did not read do not show as unread.
To read them I have to go to the home page and open all the messages. Scroll through them and find the ones I did not read. I find them by viewing the right side of the page to see the date and topic. Then I open the thread and scroll down to see if there is a new message I have not read. Time consuming!
I will attempt your method and see if it takes care of the issue. Later or tomorrow whenever I get back!
Thanks !

[MP]

Duey:
I go directly to this page:   http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php

I never have to log in, I have it set to remember.
I then click on General.  I go there.  It has the little blue tab (new)  by all the topics that have a new posting.  I then do the same with Tech.   Works good for me.
MP

[R J]

Duey:
I go directly to this page:   http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php

I never have to log in, I have it set to remember.
I then click on General.  I go there.  It has the little blue tab (new)  by all the topics that have a new posting.  I then do the same with Tech.   Works good for me.
MP

NP, he is on a SHARED PUTER............

[3fan4life]

I also feel  that I miss alot of posts with the new format. 

Y'all have noticed that "show all unread posts since last visit" button?

Yes I have.

But that shows new posts on all the boards.

I started doing it that way but soon found out that I was sorting through a lot more posts that I didn't have an interest in reading.



The one thing that I could do on the old board that I liked was the ability to just "scroll" down through the posts.

Now, you have to open and close everything.


That is a minor criticism when you look at the added features that this format has to offer.

[Willow]

... I will attempt your method and see if it takes care of the issue. Later or tomorrow whenever I get back!
Thanks !

Thanks, Duey.  Let me know how it works out.

I should mention that I'm using the endless color theme if that makes any difference in presentation.

[DeathWishBikerDude]

I hated the old forum.
Too hard to follow threads.
This is much easier to read and follow.
 

[Duey]

Thanks Willow,
I tried your plan. It works. It is almost exactly what I do except I do not go to the bottom thread. I start at the top on and go down the list. When I am done reading each thread I just click my mouse back button and it takes me back to the list of threads. I might start using your "new" button method since I would not have to open each thread to read them.
Both ways seem to work well. But, It still does not cure the lost unread threads when I log out without reading all the threads and sigh back in. As explained in my previous message.
At this stage I am going to assume the only cure would be to log on forever. After I make some changes to how this puter is shared I may do just that.
Otherwise I have no issues with this new format. In standard or otherwise. Thanks to all for the help and change.

[Duey]

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[Willow]

... But, It still does not cure the lost unread threads when I log out without reading all the threads and sigh back in.

Duey, I'm still unclear about the lost posts.  They should still have the "new" button if you haven't read them, but if you start at the top they will be pushed down the list or reordered by those with more recent activity?

It could behave differently for me as an administrator, but I don't lose items from the list even if I log off and back on.  

The main key is that the "unread" button shows me all the posts that have had activity since I last viewed them.  Either direction should work, but starting with the oldest (lowest in my list) I am more likely to retain the order.  I can refresh the list anytime by clicking again on the "unread" button.

Two keys are important.  I have cookies enabled and I always select each post by the "new" button.

I hope that with some experimentation you find it improving for you.

[thumper]

I like this forum much more than the old one.  Cleaner, better organized, and looks better.  Great job to those that put it together.

[3fan4life]

 They should still have the "new" button if you haven't read them, but if you start at the top they will be pushed down the list or reordered by those with more recent activity?

I have cookies enabled and I always select each post by the "new" button.

That does work better, it cuts out alot of steps.

I hadn't realized that the "NEW" was a button.

I thought that it was just there to let you know that there were new posts in a thread.

[Duey]

I am using your method most of the time and it works as long as I am logged in forever. Thanks for the info.

[Clark]

   I MISS BRUMMER..I LOVE YOU BARRY