Won't start in gear

[99ISrdr]

I just noticed the other day that the bike won't start in gear with the clutch in. It only starts now in neutral. Someone said it might be a clutch switch problem? Any suggestions?

[sugerbear]

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[kickstand]

Mine did the sanw thing it was the side stand switch

[Duct Tape]

Seems to me that if it was the side-stand switch putting it in gear would kill-it.  I would think the clutch switch would be the most likely problem.  I saw a simple multi-meter test somewhere for the switches.  I can't recall if it was a continuity check or a resistance check.  Might be in the old shop talk tech archives.

[Bone]

Checking the side stand switch from the manual;


Disconnect the side stand switch 3P-green (GL1500CF:
2P-green) connector under the frame cross member.
Check for continuitv between the side stand switch side
connector terminals.
There should be continuity between the greedwhite and
green wire terminals with the side stand retracted.
GLI 500C/CT only: There should be continuity yellow/black
and green wire terminals with the side stand lowered.

[Ricky-D]

Sure!   It's not supposed to start any time at all, if it's in gear with the side stand down.  Some times  I fool myself with the same.

I pull the clutch in and it won't start.  The bike is in gear with the side stand down stupid!

[99ISrdr]

It won't start in gear (with clutch in) with side stand up, therefore it's probably not the side stand switch. I'm guessing it must be something with the clutch switch. I'll give a call to the shop tomorrow.

Thanks

[Stanley Steamer]

It won't start in gear (with clutch in) with side stand up, therefore it's probably not the side stand switch. I'm guessing it must be something with the clutch switch. I'll give a call to the shop tomorrow.

Thanks

Mine does that occasionally...Sometimes if you "giggle" the clutch handle, it'll crank again...must be a slight  adjustment out of whack on the clutch switch..

[mfountain]

The easy way to check the clutch switch, IMO, is to disconnect one side of the wires, put a test light on it, and pull the clutch lever in. It's been a while since I had to mess with this, but IIRC, you should have power on the switch with the clutch lever out. When you pull the clutch lever in, power should be cut.   I may have that backwards, but basically, whatever it's doing with the clutch out, it should be doing the opposite with the clutch in. The clutch switch gets power from the sidestand switch, so be sure it's working as well.

EDIT: Plug the first wire back in, disconnect the other wire and try it, to be sure you had the hot wire. Power comes from the side stand switch, so you need the test light on the wire running to the starter solenoid (the one that isn't hot with the side stand up)

Have you replaced the levers recently? I had to do all this on my wife's Magna. The aftermarket (kuryakyn) lever wasn't touching the nipple on the switch. I had to do some filing on the lever and shorten the nipple on the switch to get it to engage properly. Naturally, I noticed this after I replaced the switch, which was perfectly functional.

[humshark]

It won't start in gear (with clutch in) with side stand up, therefore it's probably not the side stand switch. I'm guessing it must be something with the clutch switch. I'll give a call to the shop tomorrow.

WAIT!!  The bike doesn't start in gear with the side stand down - period - clutch in or out under NORMAL circumstances - THEN

if it won't start in gear with the sidestand UP or down, then it could be your SIDESTAND switch.  There is the possibility of it being either switch - since both have to change state in order to start the VALK in gear.  IT might still be thinking that the sidestand is down ( bad switch ) and therfore even if the clutch switch is working - it'll never start in gear.  Also - if the sidestand switch IS working and the clutch switch is not, again, you can not start the bike in gear.
 
You will have to test both.  I would start with the sidestand switch.  It's in a rougher service location, although the clutch gets WAY more action!

[mfountain]

I just noticed the other day that the bike won't start in gear with the clutch in. It only starts now in neutral. Someone said it might be a clutch switch problem? Any suggestions?

It won't start in gear (with clutch in) with side stand up, therefore it's probably not the side stand switch. I'm guessing it must be something with the clutch switch. I'll give a call to the shop tomorrow.

Thanks

If it were the sidestand switch gone bad, the bike should shut off anytime you put it in gear. It would crank in neutral, but would cut off once in gear, even with the sidestand up. The OP said it wasn't starting in gear with the side stand up, so the clutch switch should be the first place to look.

[humshark]

If it were the sidestand switch gone bad, the bike should shut off anytime you put it in gear

Thank you for reminding me of the obvious. 

That would quickly rule out weather or not you had a bad sidestand switch! 

Sometimes I wonder about myself!

[Bugslayer]

I just noticed the other day that the bike won't start in gear with the clutch in. It only starts now in neutral. Someone said it might be a clutch switch problem? Any suggestions?

IMO, your problem is a worn clutch lever bushing. It's not allowing the clutch lever to push in the button on the switch far enough. Replacing the bushing is cheap  .
http://www.jkozloski.com/generic_parts.htm

(Borrowed from Shop Talk generic parts)
Clutch lever bushing

The Honda part Number 2285-MBO-006 is $10

The Suzuki part number 59892-08A00 is $3 and exactly the same part.

Part number two in the drawing

[greggh]

IMO, your problem is a worn clutch lever bushing. It's not allowing the clutch lever to push in the button on the switch far enough. Replacing the bushing is cheap  .
http://www.jkozloski.com/generic_parts.htm

(Borrowed from Shop Talk generic parts)
Clutch lever bushing

The Honda part Number 2285-MBO-006 is $10

The Suzuki part number 59892-08A00 is $3 and exactly the same part.

Part number two in the drawing





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I have had this ongoing problem with mine as well.
The clutch lever idea sounds like it could be the problem.
I noticed that the lever had more play up/douwn movement then before.
I will try to get some clutch lever bushing and replace them to see if this fixes the problem.

Othe wise I just learned to deal with it.

[Bugslayer]

 
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I have had this ongoing problem with mine as well.
The clutch lever idea sounds like it could be the problem.
I noticed that the lever had more play up/douwn movement then before.
I will try to get some clutch lever bushing and replace them to see if this fixes the problem.

Othe wise I just learned to deal with it.
[/quote]

Try this.
On the back (hinge side) of the clutch lever is the switch that the clutch lever depresses. With the side stand up and the clutch pulled in... use a small screwdriver and push in the little button until it clicks. Then try to start it in gear. (You'll probably need an extra set of hands.) I'll bet it starts.
Good luck.

*EDIT*
I would have the bike on a lift just in case the bike thinks it's time to go.

[greggh]

Try this.
On the back (hinge side) of the clutch lever is the switch that the clutch lever depresses. With the side stand up and the clutch pulled in... use a small screwdriver and push in the little button until it clicks. Then try to start it in gear. (You'll probably need an extra set of hands.) I'll bet it starts.
Good luck.

*EDIT*
I would have the bike on a lift just in case the bike thinks it's time to go.
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Mine turned out to be the SWITCH ASSY., CLUTCH.

Easy fix just stuck a piece of sefl adhesive rubber to the clutch lever and all works fine.

Just need to buy the replacement for it.

Thanks for the help.

[Bugslayer]

 

Mine turned out to be the SWITCH ASSY., CLUTCH.

Easy fix just stuck a piece of sefl adhesive rubber to the clutch lever and all works fine.

Just need to buy the replacement for it.

Thanks for the help.
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Good deal. Glad it was an easy fix.