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Author Topic: rear end cross reference question  (Read 1556 times)
Brian
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« on: September 27, 2012, 06:38:42 PM »

Has anyone heard of or have information on using a GL 1500 Goldwing rear end on a valk? I hear the gearing is such that gas mileage will increase on the valk due to the slightly different gear ratios. If this can be done is it a complete change out of the swingarm or will the GW rear end bolt on.

If there is such a cross reference can you share the model year and any other info you have?

This is a serious question that was actually directed at me at our local Honda dealer yesterday. The gentlemen that asked knows I am a member of this blog and a fellow Valk rider.

Thank you,
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valky1500
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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2012, 06:47:09 PM »

The GW is left handed and the valk is right so they are NOT interchangeable per se.
However the innards are the very same as far as gears if you want to do a rebuild.  2funny
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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2012, 07:29:45 PM »

valky1500
WRONG......right hand.....left hand? Where did you come up with that?
The "pumpkin" housing is different, the internals are interchangeable. cooldude
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« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2012, 03:25:21 AM »

Does anyone know if the gear ratios are different enough to provide better mpg's ? The person asking me this heard that this mod will reduce the RPM's somewhat at highway speeds. I assume it will make the bike slower off the line and during acceleration? Always a trade off I guess.

Thanks guys.
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« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2012, 03:59:11 AM »

When the Valkyrie was introduced the 1500 Wing started using Valkyrie components.  Here's an earlier thread that discusses that.  http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php?topic=29276.0

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« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2012, 04:59:28 AM »

To those who are interested, I got the right and left side from a discussion on light bulbs.

The Drive Gear ratios are one and the same as well as the parts and the transmissions. The GW 1500 is a design from the GW1200 and that's as far as I go back with Hondas.

But I wouldn't be surprised to find out they were all one and the same, with minor improvements and color schemes now and then, from the very beginning.  2funny
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« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2012, 05:26:43 AM »

As a reminder:
The Valkyrie engine is based on the Gold Wing 1500 engine from Marysville, but has solid lifters instead of hydraulic lifters, six carburetors instead of the Gold Wing's two, more aggressive camshafts, a free flowing exhaust, and altered ignition timing to increase performance.

The 5-speed tranny has always been the stickler with the Valkyrie because of it's higher performance engine, based on the GL1500.

It's going to be interesting to see what changes will be made with the new 1800 Goldwing  parts-wise since it moved to its new home in Japan last year. coolsmiley
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« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2012, 06:19:03 PM »

According to motorcycle news the manufacturing of the wing moved in 2009. This sort of sucks regardless what year they moved. It did state that the workers were moved over to other productions lines. No layoffs. I still try to buy Made in the USA. It's hard to do.

thanks for the input guys.
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« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2012, 06:34:47 PM »

When the Valkyrie was introduced the 1500 Wing started using Valkyrie components.  Here's an earlier thread that discusses that.  http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php?topic=29276.0

Marty


Thanks Marty for posting this thread. Old timers set in as I now remember seeing this. I also keep forgetting to do a search first before posting. If anything posting the question first may result in new info for all to share. Thanks for your help.
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« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2012, 12:16:44 PM »

As a reminder:
The Valkyrie engine is based on the Gold Wing 1500 engine from Marysville, but has solid lifters instead of hydraulic lifters, six carburetors instead of the Gold Wing's two, more aggressive camshafts, a free flowing exhaust, and altered ignition timing to increase performance.

The 5-speed tranny has always been the stickler with the Valkyrie because of it's higher performance engine, based on the GL1500.

It's going to be interesting to see what changes will be made with the new 1800 Goldwing  parts-wise since it moved to its new home in Japan last year. coolsmiley

Nope!

No lifters in either motor.

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« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2012, 09:32:14 PM »

As a reminder:
The Valkyrie engine is based on the Gold Wing 1500 engine from Marysville, but has solid lifters instead of hydraulic lifters, six carburetors instead of the Gold Wing's two, more aggressive camshafts, a free flowing exhaust, and altered ignition timing to increase performance.

The 5-speed tranny has always been the stickler with the Valkyrie because of it's higher performance engine, based on the GL1500.

It's going to be interesting to see what changes will be made with the new 1800 Goldwing  parts-wise since it moved to its new home in Japan last year. coolsmiley


Nope!

No lifters in either motor.

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Actually they are cam followers , and if you look at the parts fich for the goldwing, the adjusters are hydraulic. Part #4 and #6 are for just one cylinder $34 each. http://www.hdlparts.com/fiche_section_detail.asp?section=2087772&category=Motorcycles&make=HONDA&year=1999&fveh=124261
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