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dano1946
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« on: October 14, 2012, 06:59:45 AM »

I'm pretty new to my Valk - just got her about 2 weeks ago (99 IS).  I took her out for a ride thru the local twisties last week and was very impressed with the nimble handling of this big beast - but, I'm don't think I even came anywhere near scraping any pegs.  I'll admit to being a bit of a chicken but I did push her pretty good.  can you really scrap the pegs and not go down?

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« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2012, 07:03:42 AM »

Oh yeah, ask smokinjoe. He goes through a bunch of pegs each year. I have scraped mine quite a bit without eben trying.
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« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2012, 07:18:44 AM »

Yes you can. I saw some pics some time ago that showed the round crash bar scraped off. These came off mine last year.



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Regis
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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2012, 07:30:48 AM »

I scraped mine Friday going thru a curve so hard I could feel the rear wheel losing traction and had to let off of it and change my curve arc a little . But mine is a standard , no top bag or heavy fairing .
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« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2012, 07:43:48 AM »

I wasn't sure until I put my new E3's on. Went out for a break in ride and, yeah, you can! Kinda took me by suprise cuz I was only going to an empty lot to cut some figure 8s to get some of the mold release off the new hoops.
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« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2012, 08:18:48 AM »

If you ain't scrapin', you ain't havin' fun..
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« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2012, 09:37:18 AM »



Ya sure can Dan. Glad your enjoying "our" girl-
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« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2012, 11:25:19 AM »

Both myself and my friend Gordon ( Lucky 13 ) have hit the engine guards and saddlebag stay/guard.They only go so far before you start draggin' hard parts.







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« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2012, 12:19:59 PM »

Thanks for the pics - that's really cool.

Hey Slick, yeah, our baby's doing good :-)
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« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2012, 12:23:14 PM »

I don't drag pegs going FAST very often.  But ocassionally.

Most of my peg drags are about 25-30 mph.  And I wear a size 14 WIDE boot.  I usually drag a boot edge before my peg.

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« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2012, 02:45:50 PM »

I have only a few times just barely the past 4-5 years of owning the Valk I/S.  Never really seen the sense in it.  You can go plenty fast enough in the corners, at least for me,  without scrapping.  I'm sure I could go faster in the corners, but don't feel the need.  Just my .02 cents.  For the size of the motor and weight down low, the 800lbs. sure feels very nimble for it's size, one of the best out there.  Now, I test drove before getting my Valk I/S a stock 1500 goldwing, and just did a u-turn in the road and scrapped the plastic pretty bad underneath not even trying.  So, that didn't sit too well with me and looked elsewhere and came upon eventually my current I/S couldn't pass it up.
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« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2012, 03:00:58 PM »

I was coming off highway N N in Ozark Mo. today onto U S 65 south and heard metal scraping. Not the first time and most likely not the last. I was behind my brother coming back from the dam at Inzane-12 in Eureka Springs Ar. and heard him scrape the pegs in left and right handers on his tourer. Yeah fer big beasts they are nimble. RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2012, 03:15:18 PM »

My Harley buddies think I'm nuts,but the valk will lean way over on command.I had to drill out the edge of my floorboards for M6x1.0 to install the the "feelers"from the o.e. pegs.This cuts down on floor board replacement,but now I have to make replacements from grade 8 bolts with a little dome of weld on top .It's too easy to hurt yourself around a bike with razor sharp boards as S.Joe found out.Not only that they were tearing my jeans when I put feet up and down. Angry
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« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2012, 05:08:52 PM »

I've always thought the bike would lean way farther then Honda allows it to.  Must be that big heavy engine down below offsetting the riders weight.  One time I came to my turn unexpectedly.  Wife wasn't looking, and when I went into the turn she got scared, and leaned, or bounced around back there.  Suddenly the bike was straight up heading for the water filled ditch next to the road.  I leaned it so far over the peg and the side of my boot were on the ground.  I thought sure the crash bar was going to touch, but it didn't. A touch of gas and up we came.  Scraped up my exhaust pipes pretty good.  Had gravel in the hanger   Shocked
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dano1946
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« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2012, 05:15:59 PM »

it's comforting to know I can trust this beast to lean - not that I'm in a hurry to hear that scrapping sound - but comforting to know that, if necessary, it will do it.  thanks for the great responses.
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« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2012, 07:15:31 PM »

Ever followed someone pushing their bike down into the bend whilst keeping their body upright. Not the way to do it.

Push the bike upright away from the bend.

Push your body down into the bend. Make like a GP racer.

Going round a left bend. Roll your body weight off your right buttock on to your left buttock and let the bike stay upright an extra degree or two. You can practise this on a long sweeper and feel how the bikes lean is affected by your body position.

You will not scrape pegs as easily.

You WILL corner at the same speed if not faster without scraping pegs.

Make sure your suspension sag is set correctly. Those who don't will scrape way before they should.

http://www.triumphnet.com/st/acc/racetech/setup.htm

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http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/howto/122_0508_motorcycle_suspension_setup/
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« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2012, 08:46:30 PM »

Run one of these,

& come roll The Dragon with us.
Do watch out for the "hard parts", Hahaha
Let the sparks fall where they may!!!
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« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2012, 10:19:23 PM »

For me, kinda like puttin down your knee...makes bike go faster thru curves!!!
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« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2012, 07:24:11 AM »

I must have clown's feet - they always tough down before the pegs! Embarrassed Embarrassed

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« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2012, 08:03:16 AM »

I don't drag pegs going FAST very often.  But ocassionally.

Most of my peg drags are about 25-30 mph.  And I wear a size 14 WIDE boot.  I usually drag a boot edge before my peg.

Jabba



I have the Kuryakyn pegs too, which for me are too narrow.  So I put extenders on their mounts, which I also got from Kuryakyn.   Provides notice just a bit sooner before hard parts drag, plus keeps the edges of my size 12's off the pavement.

http://www.horseapple.com/Valkyrie/Tech_Tips/Dually_Peg_Extenders/dually_peg_extenders.html

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« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2012, 08:12:45 AM »

I've scraped my pegs before, not because I was trying to but because I was taking that curve at a speed that required that much lean.  I don't really like replacing chrome, it's expensive.  So, I don't intentionally scrape the pegs but, it has happened. 
I consider the sound and feel of scraping pegs like a caution light or warning buzzer, she's telling me, that I've pushed her over as far as I should or, that I'm about to exceed my expertise.  Either way, she'll go where I point her, she's always game, I'm the coward of the pair.  Wink
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« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2012, 09:58:20 AM »

I'm with Blackrams on this one.
We have too much sand and gravel on the roads to make scrappin a regular passtime.
The design is vastly superior to so many other bikes I've ridden.
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« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2016, 06:27:07 PM »

I am new to the Valk but have already scrapped multiple times.  I agree with whomever said the bike has way more ability than the pegs allow.  After my first scrape i was worried about it and road the rest of the ride semi conservatively.  Every time i went into a somewhat tight curve I gritted my teeth and waited lol.

That leads me to my next question.  Is it safe to drag the pegs?  I mean i know its not ideal but once you know when it is going to hapen can one just continue the arc or should they adjust as to not grind?

Noob i know, Matt
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« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2016, 06:56:55 PM »

The Phat gurl feels like it drops 200-300 pounds once you start rolling -  but all Hondas have done that- just not as dramatically as the Phat Gurl.

I Don't think I've scraped pegs in a long time - I remember doing it on my 1981 CB750F and my 76 CB750F and my 78 CB400A. But I can still scare the wife on a corner if I want.
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« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2016, 07:00:48 PM »

I am new to the Valk but have already scrapped multiple times.  I agree with whomever said the bike has way more ability than the pegs allow.  After my first scrape i was worried about it and road the rest of the ride semi conservatively.  Every time i went into a somewhat tight curve I gritted my teeth and waited lol.

That leads me to my next question.  Is it safe to drag the pegs?  I mean i know its not ideal but once you know when it is going to hapen can one just continue the arc or should they adjust as to not grind?

Noob i know, Matt
In my opinion it's safe. The pegs or boards are on a pivot. They will fold up with the road. Now if you get so extreme that you are grinding parts that don't move. Then that's a different story in my opinion. You will reduce your traction with that. But you know what they say about opinions, they are like a-holes.
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« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2016, 07:03:20 PM »

Both myself and my friend Gordon ( Lucky 13 ) have hit the engine guards and saddlebag stay/guard.They only go so far before you start draggin' hard parts.


The rest of that story is, when you start dragging hard parts, you're starting to shift weight to those hard parts and off of the tires.   I don't recommend that.   It's your ride but, just know that once you've gone too far, there ain't no coming  back.   Wink
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« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2016, 08:16:16 PM »

I'm no peg scraper for sure, but even I have done it by accident all at speeds 25 mph on under luckily though going around a corner leaning into it too much.  I'd say only 4-5 times the past 7 years though so can call me a chicken, but sure wakes you up when it does happen like what the heck just happened. 

Now doing it at speeds 45 mph on up sure takes some cahoneys in my book..
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« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2016, 08:37:43 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9ojN6WSuSA

Some peg scraping here.  Much smaller bikes but worth a look.
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« Reply #28 on: June 21, 2016, 05:06:53 AM »

I am new to the Valk but have already scrapped multiple times.  I agree with whomever said the bike has way more ability than the pegs allow.  After my first scrape i was worried about it and road the rest of the ride semi conservatively.  Every time i went into a somewhat tight curve I gritted my teeth and waited lol.

That leads me to my next question.  Is it safe to drag the pegs?  I mean i know its not ideal but once you know when it is going to hapen can one just continue the arc or should they adjust as to not grind?

Noob i know, Matt


The bike will scrape pegs easily.

HOWEVER have you set the suspension up correctly?

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/suspension-setup-101-part-i-setting-sag

Once sag is set the bike will still scrape pegs.

BUT the center stand is waiting for a lean too extreme and will in the right situation touch. Now it starts to get worrisome. Next the rear wheel starts to lose contact with the road surface because of the touch down of the center stand and the weight of the bike no longer pressing down on the rear wheel.

So be aware of reverse camber in tight bends. Where the right side of the road is higher than the center in a right bend or the center of the road is higher than the right in a left bend.

I hope I've got that described correctly. Hold a piece of paper flat and then tilt it so you can visualize the slope.
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« Reply #29 on: June 21, 2016, 05:26:44 AM »

I would like to add a small thought.

Flatlanders, don't try to compete with these southern riders.  Speaking for myself I never got enough experience of scraping pegs because of the straight roads here.  It does take practice and you will learn, hopefully not to scrape immovable parts.

I've done it a few times in southern Indiana but not up here in the NE part.

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« Reply #30 on: June 21, 2016, 01:32:34 PM »

Scraping pegs is not a problem.  The Valkyrie will do it and handle it well.  As stated, the pegs are hinged.  It's not a problem.

The pegs are, in fact, a warning system.  When you hear (or feel) the peg make contact it is the phat girl telling you, "I'm fine here but no more."  A little further and you will touch hard, unhinged parts.  When the bike shifts its weight onto the unhinged parts you are on the way down.

Scrape the pegs.  Don't push further. 
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