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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2012, 11:01:55 AM » |
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Ouch, that's a crying shame.  Don't pose for the camera keep your eyes on the road.  |
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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2012, 11:03:54 AM » |
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Damn That ol'boy should be watching the road and not waving at the camera....Wonder how many crash by being distracted by all the folks taking pictures on The Dragon ? You can go a nice day and there is damn near one in every curve  Never take the eye off the prize |
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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2012, 11:04:11 AM » |
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Kind of raised a ruckus with the front of the Vette.
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« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2012, 11:32:39 AM » |
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That was incredibly painful to watch, I had to FORCE myself to keep clicking the next picture button...
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« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2012, 11:51:38 AM » |
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Looks like the pictures were taken by a professional photographer for resale. I think he had a hand in causing this accident.
How many digital reprints do You want!?
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« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2012, 12:02:16 PM » |
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Let me think about this-pose fer camera and get some decent pics/photos/roadrash OR ride the M/C and PAY attention to the job at hand AND avoid roadrash.  Man that be a toughy.  We KNOW what the rider did do.  And i hope and pray that the M/C rider is O-K. I'm not completely heartless but THAT was avoidable. RIDE SAFE. |
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« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2012, 12:11:48 PM » |
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I feel sorry for the old guy and I hope that he didn't get hurt too badly,
But, it looks to me like the guy did 2 things wrong:
1: He was hamming it up for the camera instead of watching where he was going.
2: When he started dragging hard parts he straightened the bike up instead of continuing to lean.
He didn't even attempt to re-lean the bike, if you watch the sequence he continues to straighten up all the way into the car.
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« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2012, 12:39:13 PM » |
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Seems lucky he flipped over landing on his a$$ rather than head first into the Vette or on pavement and snapping his neck. Vette guy is probably not very happy.
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« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2012, 01:38:04 PM » |
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Is that a Triumph?
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« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2012, 01:40:06 PM » |
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What kind of bike is that? Broken (Terminally, I believe). |
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« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2012, 01:41:57 PM » |
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« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2012, 02:13:00 PM » |
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Beside having his head up his butt, waving at the camera, I do not see any sign of him getting on the brakes hard to try to stop, I think knowing I was going to hit, I would be locking it up to at least slow down. He was still doing a pretty good clip, noticed the impact even separated the front wheel from the hub.
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« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2012, 02:16:27 PM » |
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This appears to be shots of a friend of mine. He posted on facebook that something had 'happened' on his vacation, but wasn't specific. Here's a shot of eariler in the trip.  |
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« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2012, 02:25:37 PM » |
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Seeing the gear he was carrying, I assume he was out for a long ride and you can see by the look on his face he was enjoying himself. How quickly things can change!!!! My dad always said you can make some mistakes and maybe get away it, but there are some mistakes that will change your life forever. Apparently This guy had too much speed in relation to lean ability for the curve. So sorry to see that and the worse part is it was his own fault. Hope he came out without any major injuries.
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« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2012, 02:28:28 PM » |
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« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2012, 02:30:47 PM » |
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Two words.......target fixation... Also looking where you want to go and not at the car would have helped. Hope it wasn't your friend. Hay  Jimmyt |
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« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2012, 02:32:23 PM » |
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This guy is a very experenced rider. It just goes to show what can happen in a moment of complacency and inattention.
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« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2012, 02:41:26 PM » |
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I think definately target fixation .I wouldnt blame the photagrapher for any of it ,there are that many distractions on the road you cant afford to let your guard down for a second.
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« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2012, 02:59:21 PM » |
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I think it was two cases of target fixation. He missed the point where he should have started his turn and entered the turn too fast because of watching the camera. Then, he fixated on the cage and was hosed. First time I rode that road I noticed a motorcycle skid mark leading into a barked tree. It was damn nearly like trying to drive by a blackhole, the tree drew my eyes which was enough to get me off the line I wanted in a fraction of a second. That guy focused and stayed focused on the Vette. I think that's why the bike stood up. Hope he's alright.
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« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2012, 03:44:21 PM » |
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Being both a motorcycle and Corvette enthusiast this is painful to watch. Corvette owner is on the Corvette forum that I visit frequently. Bags went off in the Vette, motorcyclist walked away. Due to the high repair costs of C5 vettes's the car will probably be totaled even though repairable. http://youtu.be/-2R4D1vBOM8OOOpppppp's I see Cleaver already posted! |
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« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2012, 04:17:53 PM » |
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I just got a message from my friend. He has a dislocated wrist, but is otherwise OK. Didn't say anything about the condition of the Trumph.
I think he got lucky, could have been much worse.
I'm sure at one time or another most everyone has misjudged a curve or got distracted and wound-up in the other lane. I've done it before and was just lucky there wasn't a Corvette or anything else comming the other way.
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« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2012, 04:36:22 PM » |
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« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2012, 04:36:31 PM » |
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I just got a message from my friend. He has a dislocated wrist, but is otherwise OK. Didn't say anything about the condition of the Trumph.
I think he got lucky, could have been much worse.
I'm sure at one time or another most everyone has misjudged a curve or got distracted and wound-up in the other lane. I've done it before and was just lucky there wasn't a Corvette or anything else comming the other way.
Ride Safe.
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« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2012, 05:26:18 PM » |
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When I passed one of those photographers, my backseater asked me if I was looking and waving, or what. My response: "I'm just riding." Forget about those guys, and ride the road.
That's not to say I am immune to distractions. No one is. Too bad your friend had to pay so painfully for his lapse. I'm surprised to hear you say he's experienced. From the way he shoots upright after scraping, I'd say he's not comfortable scraping pegs.
There's not much of a way to view that as any more than his fault, I'm just glad that when I've made mistakes, there's never been such a high penalty.
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« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2012, 05:27:49 PM » |
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I just got a message from my friend. He has a dislocated wrist, but is otherwise OK. Didn't say anything about the condition of the Trumph.
I think he got lucky, could have been much worse.
I'm sure at one time or another most everyone has misjudged a curve or got distracted and wound-up in the other lane. I've done it before and was just lucky there wasn't a Corvette or anything else comming the other way.
Ride Safe.
The picture you posted the bike does'nt have a Givi trunk....The bike that ate the Vette had a Givi trunk....So maybe it was'nt your friend. |
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« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2012, 05:33:43 PM » |
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Wow Fudd, glad he wasn't hurt any worse than he was. I sometime have to force myself to look where I want to go. Most of the time it is during a u-turn. Hay Jimmyt |
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« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2012, 05:48:49 PM » |
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The picture you posted the bike does'nt have a Givi trunk....The bike that ate the Vette had a Givi trunk....So maybe it was'nt your friend.
Looks like a Givi to me, in both pictures, the Dragon series and the posed picture Fudd posted. Mark |
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The picture you posted the bike does'nt have a Givi trunk....The bike that ate the Vette had a Givi trunk....So maybe it was'nt your friend.
Looks like a Givi to me, in both pictures, the Dragon series and the posed picture Fudd posted. Mark I guess you can see better than me....Looks like a red cooler to me Red cooler is sitting on the givi Joe. |
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« Reply #29 on: October 18, 2012, 06:00:58 PM » |
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The picture you posted the bike does'nt have a Givi trunk....The bike that ate the Vette had a Givi trunk....So maybe it was'nt your friend.
Looks like a Givi to me, in both pictures, the Dragon series and the posed picture Fudd posted. Mark I guess you can see better than me....Looks like a red cooler to me Red cooler is sitting on the givi Joe. Yeah my eye's are going bye-bye  |
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Tomorrow Nights Dragon run will only be for sober people.
THat means Stanley Steamer will most likely be the only one running it with me.
I will be hammering it hard,
Do not try to keep up.
I will wait for you at the overlook so I can get you picture as you arrive.
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« Reply #31 on: October 18, 2012, 06:32:24 PM » |
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It was definatly my friend Ron. He's sent me a message telling me he was for the most part OK. Ron is no stranger to scrapping pegs, I think he started his banking late and hard and it supprised him. I won't second guess his failure to re-lean. He made a decision to hit the Corvette straight up.
If he had laid it down, he may have slammed into the side of the car abruptly. All I know is Ron survived a head-on collision with a Corvette and walked away. He's able to continue his vacation instead of laying in a hospital bed. Two hours ago he posted pictures of his condo in Panama City Buchanan, FL where he's staying tonight.
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It was definatly my friend Ron. He's sent me a message telling me he was for the most part OK. Ron is no stranger to scrapping pegs, I think he started his banking late and hard and it supprised him. I won't second guess his failure to re-lean. He made a decision to hit the Corvette straight up.
If he had laid it down, he may have slammed into the side of the car abruptly. All I know is Ron survived a head-on collision with a Corvette and walked away. He's able to continue his vacation instead of laying in a hospital bed. Two hours ago he posted pictures of his condo in Panama City Buchanan, FL where he's staying tonight.
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« Reply #34 on: October 18, 2012, 06:56:00 PM » |
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Tomorrow Nights Dragon run will only be for sober people.
THat means Stanley Steamer will most likely be the only one running it with me.
I will be hammering it hard,
Do not try to keep up.
I will wait for you at the overlook so I can get you picture as you arrive.
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I just got a message from my friend. He has a dislocated wrist, but is otherwise OK. Didn't say anything about the condition of the Trumph.
I think he got lucky, could have been much worse.
I'm sure at one time or another most everyone has misjudged a curve or got distracted and wound-up in the other lane. I've done it before and was just lucky there wasn't a Corvette or anything else comming the other way.
Ride Safe.
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Is the general opinion that in frame nine or perhaps sooner he became fixated on the vette and had he even at that point with the bike dragging somewhat heavily could have looked through the turn and been ok?
Btw I'm glad he's going to be ok, hope the vette owner gets a new one.
This reminds me of my need to practice, where do you go to practice peg dragging?
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I could'nt figure out how to make the .gif work on here Check out the link. They claim this crash caused another bike to go down in the same spot from the oil left in the road and that rider is in ICU http://easttnbikers.com/forum/index.php?topic=3341.0Member down... http://easttnbikers.com/forum/index.php?topic=3334.0 |
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quoted from "Paulrides" from Joe's first link. Not a big deal -- a guide can't ride your bike. Maybe some help if you had someone with a radio contact in front of you (say a CB) warning you of dangers ahead (cars coming, race riders coming, bad surface areas, loose gravel, etc.). Like any curvy roads with a couple big difference -- (The traffic with chance they are not staying in their lane, like ridng the yellow line on left hand curves. Crazy riders making a race track out of the place, even passing you on corners when you are not expecting them to be coming up on you at 50 or 60mph). "Just take it sensible (curves -- slow before entering, that can even mean braking, keep a view of 2 sec, preferabaly 3 seconds, ahead of you on blind curves, use the apex and go outside-inside-outside as a general rule, keep a little power on, learn to slow in a curve if you get in too fast). Better yet, find some less traveled road wih more sensible riders. There are plenty of good ones around here with as severe curves and even more severe without all the traffic and dangerous riders." some of the BEST advice i've seen. |
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Two words.......target fixation... Also looking where you want to go and not at the car would have helped. Hope it wasn't your friend. Hay Jimmyt PLUS ONE. It will get you every time.  |
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