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« on: November 01, 2012, 03:29:29 PM » |
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I've read allot of posts on removing, cleaning, and lubing the pinion cup, drive shaft, etc. But can't find any info on how to remove the cup itself. There's a nut inside the cup but it just turns with the gears. I need to take it off to clean the lube holes. The splines were dry with some rust, but they look ok. Doesn't appear to be any wear on them.
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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2012, 04:02:18 PM » |
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There is a special tool that allows you to do that!
I do not suggest to use an impact tool for fear of damage to the gear teeth inside the pumpkin.
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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2012, 04:12:58 PM » |
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I wouldn't take it off. You can just poke a little straw or something down the holes and prove
to yourself that they are clear by holding the final drive so that oil drizzles out. When I've
been changing my oil anyway, I stick the wd40 straw down in them and squirt...
-Mike
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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2012, 04:49:21 PM » |
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Sounds good. If I can clear the holes w/out taking it out, more the better  Thnx |
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« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2012, 07:33:12 AM » |
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I would suggest to not introduce any WD-40 into the pumpkin interior.
it will contaminate the lubricant and alter the lubricant's chemistry.
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« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2012, 08:25:37 AM » |
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In the future I will need to take the Pinion cup off. I have noticed some wear on the teeth, but not bad enough to replace it yet.
How do you take the pinion cup off? What if any "special tools" do you need? Can you use a pipe wrench on the cup (it is being replaced) to take it off?
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« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2012, 08:24:30 AM » |
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In the future I will need to take the Pinion cup off. I have noticed some wear on the teeth, but not bad enough to replace it yet.
How do you take the pinion cup off? What if any "special tools" do you need? Can you use a pipe wrench on the cup (it is being replaced) to take it off?
My buddy Dan brrrppped one off for me with his air impact wrench, put it back on the same way. There's a couple of special tools shown in the manual... I'd use them if I had them, but I'd do it Dan's way if it meant the difference between riding and not -Mike |
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« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2012, 12:06:56 PM » |
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I use an impact.
I hold the pinion with one hand and run the impact with the other.
YMMV.
Jabba
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« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2012, 01:59:35 PM » |
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OK. Got everything cleaned out and ready to reinstall, BUT can't remember where the o-rings & teflon ring go. Searched through shoptalk, but couldn't find any pics. Anyone have a link for that?
Daniel, you got a procedure for this? Besides the one you showed me at Izane?!
Also, is the spring on the end of the driveshaft needed? Seems to be a debatable question.
Gotta say there was a ton of dried grease caked everywhere. What a mess.
Isn't using an impact on the pinion nut pretty hard on the gears? If the nut doesn't come loose very quickly, they'll be spinning very fast.
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« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2012, 02:08:43 PM » |
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OK. Got everything cleaned out and ready to reinstall, BUT can't remember where the o-rings & teflon ring go. Searched through shoptalk, but couldn't find any pics. Anyone have a link for that?
Daniel, you got a procedure for this? Besides the one you showed me at Izane?!
Also, is the spring on the end of the driveshaft needed? Seems to be a debatable question.
Gotta say there was a ton of dried grease caked everywhere. What a mess.
Isn't using an impact on the pinion nut pretty hard on the gears? If the nut doesn't come loose very quickly, they'll be spinning very fast.
Download the shop manual from Dags site. You seem to be repeating things some have said on here, but are repeating them wrong. The spring IS necessary, the clip on the other end, some say was for assembly but still keep it on. Get a manual with pics so you SEE and know 1st hand what you are doing and not just by memory of what you think someone said on the board. http://www.valkyrienorway.com/download.html |
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« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2012, 02:59:24 PM » |
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Isn't using an impact on the pinion nut pretty hard on the gears? If the nut doesn't come loose very quickly, they'll be spinning very fast.
Like I said one post up... I hold the pinion cup with my left hand and it doesn't get all spinny. Just hold it... and hit it with the impact. It takes about .35 seconds and it's off. Jabba |
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« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2012, 03:32:28 PM » |
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Yeah, the thing about the manual... According to Daniel (if I remember correctly), the manual doesn't show all 3 o-rings. Honda mechanics don't even know about the 3rd. I've got the manual, but was hoping for better pics. This board usually has better procedures than the manual.
Later
PS. The impact worked great. Cleaned out some more junk. Looks almost new!
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« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2012, 03:43:17 PM » |
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Yeah, the thing about the manual... According to Daniel (if I remember correctly), the manual doesn't show all 3 o-rings. Honda mechanics don't even know about the 3rd. I've got the manual, but was hoping for better pics. This board usually has better procedures than the manual.
Later
PS. The impact worked great. Cleaned out some more junk. Looks almost new!
Shoptalk has lots of articles that will give you another source of information beyond the manual... http://www.valkyrieriders.com/shoptalk/Elusive%203rd%20O-Ring.htmAll the O-rings are documented in the Honda manual... -Mike |
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« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2012, 03:45:21 PM » |
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Yeah, the thing about the manual... According to Daniel (if I remember correctly), the manual doesn't show all 3 o-rings. Honda mechanics don't even know about the 3rd. I've got the manual, but was hoping for better pics. This board usually has better procedures than the manual.
Later
PS. The impact worked great. Cleaned out some more junk. Looks almost new!
Shoptalk has lots of articles that will give you another source of information beyond the manual... http://www.valkyrieriders.com/shoptalk/Elusive%203rd%20O-Ring.htmAll the O-rings are documented in the Honda manual...-Mike +1, Don't trust memory |
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« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2012, 03:55:01 PM » |
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Thnx for the link. That's what I was looking for!
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« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2012, 07:04:00 PM » |
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Do not forget to use locktite on the nut when you reinstall it.
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