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I'm adding a power amp to my Interstate stero Polk speakers...
What have you guys been connecting the amp remote turn-on wire to ???
thx, rock
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Gryphon Rider
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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2012, 09:44:34 AM » |
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I haven't run an amplifier, but the accessory terminals under the right side cover would be perfect for this. On when the key is on and 5A fuse.
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rocker333
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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2012, 12:51:31 PM » |
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I haven't run an amplifier, but the accessory terminals under the right side cover would be perfect for this. On when the key is on and 5A fuse.
Problem is I don't run the radio all the time... when the radio is off running down the road I want the amp off also... thanks for the reply though... |
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2012, 03:08:09 PM » |
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I haven't run an amplifier, but the accessory terminals under the right side cover would be perfect for this. On when the key is on and 5A fuse.
Problem is I don't run the radio all the time... when the radio is off running down the road I want the amp off also... thanks for the reply though... I wired my power amp to the aux connection as stated above and then wired in a switch in the hot lead to the amp so I can turn it off while riding and its not needed. I mounted the switch to the upper right hand corner of the center cover |
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« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2012, 04:42:00 PM » |
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rocker333,
Check your messages. I will have you all squared away this evening after I get to work.
The switch idea works but it is somewhat brutal on electronics and might notice I said MIGHT cause premature failure of electronic type equipment. If its working for you guys the. Keep on keeping on.
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« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2012, 05:16:16 PM » |
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rocker333,
Check your messages. I will have you all squared away this evening after I get to work.
The switch idea works but it is somewhat brutal on electronics and might notice I said MIGHT cause premature failure of electronic type equipment. If its working for you guys the. Keep on keeping on.
dont think I have heard such silliness lately. What electronic devise doesnt have an on/off switch. Been working great for 7 or 8 years |
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« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2012, 05:26:31 PM » |
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rocker333,
Check your messages. I will have you all squared away this evening after I get to work.
The switch idea works but it is somewhat brutal on electronics and might notice I said MIGHT cause premature failure of electronic type equipment. If its working for you guys the. Keep on keeping on.
How would turning the amp on/off with a switch be any different than the turning it on/off with the ignition key? What harm are you talking about? |
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« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2012, 08:23:15 PM » |
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Why not wire it to the radio on/off switch? When the radio is turned off, so is the amp or is that possible?
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« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2012, 08:53:50 PM » |
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rocker333,
Check your messages. I will have you all squared away this evening after I get to work.
The switch idea works but it is somewhat brutal on electronics and might notice I said MIGHT cause premature failure of electronic type equipment. If its working for you guys the. Keep on keeping on.
dont think I have heard such silliness lately. What electronic devise doesnt have an on/off switch. Been working great for 7 or 8 years First lets clear up the something,,, I specifically wrote "MIGHT" as to try and prevent any less than polite comments. I didn't say you were wrong in your opinion, matter of a fact I actually wrote if it is working for you than keep doing what you’re doing. What I wrote was my opinion nothing more. So let’s ease up on the verbal abuse. Not sure why you said what I wrote is sillyness anyway. Now what I am referring to is a soft switch or circuit, (official name might not be accurate) some if not most amplifiers have a soft on circuit of some form it keep the amp from popping or slamming the speakers when power is applied. This can or will damage some or most speakers and even cause a type of electronic feedback to the amplification circuit inside the amp that cause damage to the amp itself. Is my way perfect probably not, is your way wrong probably not. Have a nice day. |
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« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2012, 09:04:44 PM » |
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People can be a lil harsh  I do not recommend using a toggle switch or something similar to that. I have done mine that way and it is easy to be left on. And will run the battery down. Don't ask me how I know. Find a source that turns on with the key. Even tho you are not running the radio all the time, it will not hurt to keep the amp on while the bike is running. |
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« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2012, 05:10:38 AM » |
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People can be a lil harsh I do not recommend using a toggle switch or something similar to that. I have done mine that way and it is easy to be left on. And will run the battery down. Don't ask me how I know. Find a source that turns on with the key. Even tho you are not running the radio all the time, it will not hurt to keep the amp on while the bike is running. excactly Joe, thats why the accessory hook-up is so good because you cant run the battery down. I have a toggle switch and its in the off position 80% of the time. If Judy is riding with me I flip that thing on, start the bike and the amp is on. If I turn the bike off and forget to tun the amp off......its still off, no harm done |
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« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2012, 05:24:19 AM » |
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rocker333,
Check your messages. I will have you all squared away this evening after I get to work.
The switch idea works but it is somewhat brutal on electronics and might notice I said MIGHT cause premature failure of electronic type equipment. If its working for you guys the. Keep on keeping on.
dont think I have heard such silliness lately. What electronic devise doesnt have an on/off switch. Been working great for 7 or 8 years First lets clear up the something,,, I specifically wrote "MIGHT" as to try and prevent any less than polite comments. I didn't say you were wrong in your opinion, matter of a fact I actually wrote if it is working for you than keep doing what you’re doing. What I wrote was my opinion nothing more. So let’s ease up on the verbal abuse. Not sure why you said what I wrote is sillyness anyway. Now what I am referring to is a soft switch or circuit, (official name might not be accurate) some if not most amplifiers have a soft on circuit of some form it keep the amp from popping or slamming the speakers when power is applied. This can or will damage some or most speakers and even cause a type of electronic feedback to the amplification circuit inside the amp that cause damage to the amp itself. Is my way perfect probably not, is your way wrong probably not. Have a nice day. First, Im sorry you thought what I said was verbal abuse. That seems like a stretch but if thats how you took it, that was certainly not what I meant. I said it was silliness because as BF stated, the thing is off, and it needs to be on. If I had no switch the power would hit the amp as soon as I turn the key(switch) on. Thats exactly what happens when I plan on using the amp. If Im not planning on using it, then change my mind the power hits the amp when I hit the switch. How can the amp know/care which switch is sending it juice. It cant The unit has to have something internally designed to withstand 12V current from the battery BLASTING into its innards all at one time because thats how it works. |
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« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2012, 05:35:00 AM » |
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I'm adding a power amp to my Interstate stero Polk speakers...
What have you guys been connecting the amp remote turn-on wire to ???
thx, rock
Not sure why you wanted to know how to do this if you already know how to do this the best way. There are great folks in here with a wealth of Valkyrie knowledge. When you ask a question (for the most part) you are getting answers that come from experience. Its just a tad unsociable to ask for help and then discard the responses. The accessory hook up is designed for low amp draw items (5amp) its already switched and there is no splicing. Many use this with great results but there are many ways to skin a cat........go forth and prosper |
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rocker333
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« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2012, 06:07:17 AM » |
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I ordered the PAC TR-4 Low Voltage Remote Turn-On Trigger this morning... just what I was looking for...
Thanks to everyone that replied !!!
enjoy your day!
rock
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« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2012, 06:09:50 AM » |
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Now what I am referring to is a soft switch or circuit, (official name might not be accurate) some if not most amplifiers have a soft on circuit of some form it keep the amp from popping or slamming the speakers when power is applied. This can or will damage some or most speakers and even cause a type of electronic feedback to the amplification circuit inside the amp that cause damage to the amp itself.
Is my way perfect probably not, is your way wrong probably not. Have a nice day.
Sometimes I'm not the brightest bulb in the pack, but I don't get what your talking about. If the amp has some sort of a soft on circuit to protect it when power is applied to it, then what difference does it make how the power is applied to the amp if it's already internally protected from start-up voltage spikes? I recently installed a Rockford Fosgate amp in my Woodys fairing with four Alpine speakers (and a Sony head unit), but I didn't utilize the remote power on wire for the amp. It's wired into an Eastern Beaver PC-8 fused power block and comes on with the ignition key. Don't know how that would cause damage to my amp, speakers, or the head unit, but if I'm missing something, I'd like to know what it is before I do any damage. |
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« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2012, 11:44:42 AM » |
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Sometimes I'm not the brightest bulb in the pack, but I don't get what your talking about.
If the amp has some sort of a soft on circuit to protect it when power is applied to it, then what difference does it make how the power is applied to the amp if it's already internally protected from start-up voltage spikes?
I recently installed a Rockford Fosgate amp in my Woodys fairing with four Alpine speakers (and a Sony head unit), but I didn't utilize the remote power on wire for the amp. It's wired into an Eastern Beaver PC-8 fused power block and comes on with the ignition key.
Don't know how that would cause damage to my amp, speakers, or the head unit, but if I'm missing something, I'd like to know what it is before I do any damage.
I don't know about others here but the first thing I think of is getting stuck away from home with a weak battery... I don't want that power hungry amp on when I go to start my bike... situation: your out and about, you don't know your battery has decided that this is the time to start dying.... you stop for bite then turn your key on to go... wow your lights got dim quick and guess what your power amplifier is sucking juice your battery needs to turn the six banger over... to bad. No this doesn't happen often... just what I think about... |
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« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2012, 02:15:27 PM » |
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Sometimes I'm not the brightest bulb in the pack, but I don't get what your talking about.
If the amp has some sort of a soft on circuit to protect it when power is applied to it, then what difference does it make how the power is applied to the amp if it's already internally protected from start-up voltage spikes?
I recently installed a Rockford Fosgate amp in my Woodys fairing with four Alpine speakers (and a Sony head unit), but I didn't utilize the remote power on wire for the amp. It's wired into an Eastern Beaver PC-8 fused power block and comes on with the ignition key.
Don't know how that would cause damage to my amp, speakers, or the head unit, but if I'm missing something, I'd like to know what it is before I do any damage.
I don't know about others here but the first thing I think of is getting stuck away from home with a weak battery... I don't want that power hungry amp on when I go to start my bike... situation: your out and about, you don't know your battery has decided that this is the time to start dying.... you stop for bite then turn your key on to go... wow your lights got dim quick and guess what your power amplifier is sucking juice your battery needs to turn the six banger over... to bad. No this doesn't happen often... just what I think about... Well, If we think something is happening that isint, then its not really being cautious, its unecessarily worrying about something that is not a problem. Maybe your power amp is way bigger and needs more power than mine, but if it can be used at the accessory hook up that means the draw needs to be less than 5 amps. I think I remember mine draws 2amps. Anyhow...bike off key on 12 Volts or so on the volt meter (13 with key off). Key on switch on the amp no change whatsoever to the volt meter. Hit starter it starts amp on or off just the same, with the same momentary drop at the volt meter during starting then right up to 14 with or without the amp. Maybe thats why its not been a problem in 7 ro 8 years, because its simply not a problem. I think you will find its a non issue YMMV  |
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« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2012, 02:28:10 PM » |
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Well, If we think something is happening that isint, then its not really being cautious, its unecessarily worrying about something that is not a problem.
Maybe your power amp is way bigger and needs more power than mine, but if it can be used at the accessory hook up that means the draw needs to be less than 5 amps. I think I remember mine draws 2amps. Anyhow...bike off key on 12 Volts or so on the volt meter (13 with key off). Key on switch on the amp no change whatsoever to the volt meter. Hit starter it starts amp on or off just the same, with the same momentary drop at the volt meter during starting then right up to 14 with or without the amp.
Maybe thats why its not been a problem in 7 ro 8 years, because its simply not a problem.
I think you will find its a non issue
YMMV
Your probably right... I've been ridin that big twin S&S motor to long... it spits out high output batteries like chewin gum... needs every micro amp it can get to turn over...  |
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