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Currently I have D206 front and back on the 2000 IS. The back tire is new and the front is nearing the point of needing to be replaced. Looking for "experieced/informed" opinions on whether it would be better to stay with D206 or go to the E3 for the front replacement. I carry 295lbs on my 6'5" frame and my wife carries 125lbs on her 4'11" frame (don't tell her I shared this info  ). On the short rides 2 up 50-75% of the time, 100% of the long rides. Added question: Is it a safe assumption that mixing brands front and back is not a safety issue as long as both are either Bias or Radial? Which adds to the question,,,, which will give me the most miles of cruising? Willing to consider other tires if better than these two choices overall. |
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« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2009, 04:04:13 AM » |
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I have had both on my IS and found the
E3s are quiter and do hold better. Best of
all they will last longer.
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« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2009, 06:11:12 AM » |
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Ditto what Dave says. I currently have front E3s on two of my bikes and love the handling.
FWIW, we just replaced the OEM D206s on Blondie's Tourer with Avon Cobras. The rear 206 had probably 2k useful tread left, and the front possibly a little more. Regardless, they made her bike handle like a pig.
Fitting the Avons cured that. It now drops right into turns.
Jury's out as to whether I'll eventually switch to all Avons or not but I've had good luck with the E3s thus far.
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« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2009, 07:35:50 AM » |
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I've 95k on this Valkyrie and over 125k on the past Goldwing and I have been through a ton of tires. This is my take on all the tire hype. There's not much difference between mixing tires from different manufacturers. There is also not much difference between mixing tire types on the same bike. It's all hype and posturing. The bottom line is normal driving is not affected and any differences quickly fade with continued driving. The factor to consider is cost per miles. With the exorbitant prices charged for motorcycle tires it quickly becomes a big factor when having to buy new tires.
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Cliff
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« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2009, 07:46:52 AM » |
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I've 95k on this Valkyrie and over 125k on the past Goldwing and I have been through a ton of tires. This is my take on all the tire hype. There's not much difference between mixing tires from different manufacturers. There is also not much difference between mixing tire types on the same bike. It's all hype and posturing. The bottom line is normal driving is not affected and any differences quickly fade with continued driving. The factor to consider is cost per miles. With the exorbitant prices charged for motorcycle tires it quickly becomes a big factor when having to buy new tires.
Which adds to the question,,,, which will give me the most miles of cruising? Willing to consider other tires if better than these two choices overall. |
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« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2009, 08:10:24 AM » |
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Which adds to the question,,,, which will give me the most miles of cruising? The E3 without a doubt. |
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« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2009, 09:04:52 AM » |
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I was thinking of trying the E-3 on the front and was hesitant because of Smokin'Joes experience with them. My choice would be between that and the Avon. I see more people have splitting/seperation problems with the front Avon. My misconception was thinking it was limited to the Venom and that the problem was fixed with the Cobra. I want to try something new as I'm not pleased with the quality of the Avon (love the handling though) Many here seem happy with the E-3 and it appears at least $20.00 cheaper than the Cobra. What to do?  |
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« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2009, 12:01:43 PM » |
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« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2009, 02:40:34 PM » |
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So far, Smokin Joe is the only one that I've heard of that's had that problem with the E III. Maybe others have, but I haven't heard of 'em. I really like my set of E III's so far.
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« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2009, 02:44:29 PM » |
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I was thinking of trying the E-3 on the front I'm running an Avon on the front and an E3 on the rear. I like the combination.
I honestly think the Avon on the front handles a little better, but the E3 wears longer.
There are actually several riders who don't like the handling of the E3. |
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« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2009, 05:04:48 PM » |
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I've gone thru almost 5 sets of tires on my '98 Tourer. The OEM Dunlops were THE WORST tires I ever owned. I got less than 6,000 miles out of them and they were worn out....and this was with normal/sane driving.
I have since had 3 sets of Bridgestones and averaged 11K miles with them. My only complaint, but it is a good one, is that they tended to "follow" groves in the pavement....this was really bad where road work was taking place and that grooved pavement was present.
I now am about 2/3 the way thru my first set of E3's and I think I will get well over 11K miles out of them and they do not track or follow the grooves in the pavement. I like them the best of all, so far.
I have an almost brand new (4 yr old) E3 for the rear of the Valk sitting in my garage that I will put on later this summer. After that one wears out, I will most likely go to the "dark side".
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« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2009, 06:23:54 PM » |
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The original dunflops were total garbage. Why would I even expect their new tires to be any better? The fact that dunflops would even offer a tire for sale that wears out so fast,shows what the company is all about. Do yourself a favor,and buy a decent tire. Nothing but Avon or Metzeler for me.  |
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« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2009, 06:53:40 PM » |
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I liked the E3s, front and rear, as far as handling went. The wear was not so great, but then neither have any other tire I have ever owned. I now have the Metz 880 on front, 'cause that's what was available, and a Goodyear Triple Tred on the back. Handling took a little getting used to, but now is better than anything I have ever been on (total ~ 200K). Dark is best! |
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« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2009, 08:27:13 PM » |
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I've said it before, I buy bridgestone cause they are cheep! 12k rear, 20k on front. I'm a flatlander, so handling is not an issue. As far as I know, they handle fine, great straight line stability. I've never had a flat.  Hoser |
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« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2009, 07:43:35 AM » |
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I'm a little surprised that no one mentioned the Dunlop d404 rear tire that has been used up front.It has twice the tread depth and only have heard negative handling problems with speeds near 3 digits.
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Cliff
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« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2009, 02:40:58 PM » |
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I'm a little surprised that no one mentioned the Dunlop d404 rear tire that has been used up front.It has twice the tread depth and only have heard negative handling problems with speeds near 3 digits.
That would be an issue with me but only occasionally |
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