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« on: February 13, 2013, 07:55:48 PM » |
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I ride a 97 standard. She had leather studded bags and I was lucky enough to score a beautiful set of hard bags and chrome trim off a 97 tourer (thank you classifieds and Don Trike2go). A little shipping and a change of colour later and they are now at my friendly neighbourhood bike shop for installation. I would have tackled it myself but she is stored there for the winter and thought it would be nice to just start the spring season with them on. The install looked pretty basic to me, but it is turning out to sound kinda complicated. AKA $$$ ka-ching $$$ This place does trike conversions and usually treats me very well...
So I ask my more experienced cohort: is it really a nightmare installing stock 97 tourer bags on a 97 Standard?
Seriously: 1 hour, 2? should I just wait and do this in my own garage?
Thanks.
Cheers.
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WamegoRob
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2013, 08:05:34 PM » |
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Installing bags and bag rails?
If I was busy I'd buy a guy a good lunch to do it for me maybe, but we're only talking about what should easily be less than an hour to do 10 or 12 bolts and some screws.
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Valhalla
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2013, 08:17:03 PM » |
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Yes: Bags with stock mounts and chrome rails.
It looked like a 2 beer job to me, with most of the second beer drained admiring the work done during the first.
The setup did not come with all of the mounting bolts, but there can't be that much unique about them...? Standard bench stock or is there some Honda unique piece?
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2013, 08:41:10 PM » |
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Slightly longer fender bolts and spacers as I recall, other than that...should bolt right up.
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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2013, 10:22:57 PM » |
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I take my bags and chrome (and rear fender) off when I pull my rear wheel each spring for maint (99 IS). Takes maybe 15 minutes off and 20 on. I leave the chrome assembled, and it may take 15 minutes to assemble the chrome. As long as you have the hardware in hand (bolts and spacers) an hour, maybe, if the tech has never done it before.
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2013, 11:42:36 PM » |
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I ride a 97 standard. She had leather studded bags and I was lucky enough to score a beautiful set of hard bags and chrome trim off a 97 tourer (thank you classifieds and Don Trike2go). A little shipping and a change of colour later and they are now at my friendly neighbourhood bike shop for installation. I would have tackled it myself but she is stored there for the winter and thought it would be nice to just start the spring season with them on. The install looked pretty basic to me, but it is turning out to sound kinda complicated. AKA $$$ ka-ching $$$ This place does trike conversions and usually treats me very well...
So I ask my more experienced cohort: is it really a nightmare installing stock 97 tourer bags on a 97 Standard?
Seriously: 1 hour, 2? should I just wait and do this in my own garage?
Thanks.
Cheers.
Not that hard to do it yourself. Should be no more than a 1 beer job......assuming you don't chug.  btw.....How much $$$ ka-ching $$$ is he charging you to put your bags on for you? |
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« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2013, 03:58:35 AM » |
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If it didn't have the fender rail bolts then the 10mm ones are an odd pitch for the size, 1.25 vs 1.5 (standard).
These are generally not an off the shelf item at most hardware stores. Some specialty fastener shops might have them (Fastenal, etc.)
This is definitely a DIY....unless you have extra money you want to give away. It might be a good time to look up "bag drop kit" and maybe make one up since Chet at Rattlebars no longer sells Valkyrie stuff. I'm sure someone here would be glad to tell you what is needed.
Good luck...
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« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2013, 05:33:09 AM » |
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Ok, it's not hard work it's just tedious work. It's one of those things that by all logic should take no more then maybe 1 to 1.5 hours. However, that being said, everyone on here knows that these parts being fitted to another bike that didn't originally come with them never goes exactly as planned. There is always that little bit of tweaking and tugging and fine tuned adjustments that go with it. If I were to guess at what would be a reasonable time I would say 2.0 to 2.5 hours. Save your money, and do it yourself. It's not that hard, and should only take and evening or so. You'll be much happier with the turn out. And you'll get a bit of instant gradification.  |
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« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2013, 07:28:30 AM » |
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and only do one side at a time....otherwise you'll enjoy a lot of cursing to get the holes to line up properly.
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Valhalla
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« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2013, 05:05:34 PM » |
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It is definitely a case of "oh crap, these bolts don't fit either!" .
They exhausted the array of bench stock at the trike shop and while it was quoted as a 1-hr job, she has been on and off the lift three times now. It looks like they finally came up with the right pieces. Would have been a time consumer for me to head down to the Canadian Tire store if I was doing it in my garage, but that is just gas money, not a shop labour rate... I should have waited til spring and brought her home for the change...
Thanks for the advice and insight lads.
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2013, 05:36:21 PM » |
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If you do it yourself, like most multipoint assemblies, just get all nuts and bolts started and leave everything loosy-goosey (technical term), until everything is started, then work around in a circle twice/thrice tightening as you go. You'll have a better result and fit.... with less swearing. Center up the bike on the lift, but leave tires on the ground, for shoving and pulling. The heat shields often need a little tweaking. http://www.valkyrieriders.com/shoptalk/Manuals/BagRails1.pdfhttp://www.valkyrieriders.com/shoptalk/Manuals/BagRails2.pdfOn page two, the rear bar connector clips (to the bag rails on each side) go on much easier if reversed from the diagram.
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Valhalla
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« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2013, 06:07:44 PM » |
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Invoiced at hours shop labor...talked it down to 2. paid on Friday afternoon and they offered me a beer in the shop to admire her. Its is well done and I am happy with the quality of final product. Feeling fair about that: not bad; not great.
There is still two feet of snow outside so I am feeling worse that i couldn't bring her home than I am about the work.
Fight the horde, sing and cry, Valhalla I am coming. (any other Led Zep fans out there?)
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