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kidcatfish
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« on: June 24, 2009, 03:11:59 PM »

 Joe Legal vs. Joe Illegal

 

 

Here is an example of why hiring illegal aliens is not economically productive for the State of California...
You have 2 families..."Joe Legal" and "Jose Illegal". Both families have 2 parents, 2 children and live in California.
 "Joe Legal" works in construction, has a Social Security Number, and makes $25.00 per hour with payroll taxes deducted...."Jose Illegal" also works in construction, has "NO" Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 cash "under the table".
Joe Legal...$25.00 per hour x 40 hours $1000.00 per week, $52,000 per year
Now take 30% away for state federal tax
Joe Legal now has $31,231.00
 
Jose Illegal...$15.00 per hour x 40 hours $600.00 per week, $31,200.00
per year
Jose Illegal pays no taxes....
Jose Illegal now has $31,200.00
 
Joe Legal pays Medical and Dental Insurance with limited coverage
$1000.00 per month
$12,000.00 per year
Joe Legal now has $19,231.00
 
Jose Illegal has full Medical and Dental coverage through the state and local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year
Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00
 
Joe Legal makes too much money is not eligible for Food Stamps or welfare
Joe Legal pays for food
$1,000.00 per month
$12,000.00 per year
Joe Legal now has $ 7,231.00
 
Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for Food Stamps and Welfare
Jose Illegal still has $31,200..00
 
Joe Legal pays rent of
$1,000.00 per month
$12,000.00 per year
Joe Legal is now in the hole
minus (-) $4,769.00
 
Jose Illegal receives a $500 per month Federal rent subsidy
Jose Illegal pays rent
$500.00 per month
$6,000.00 per year
Jose Illegal still has $25,200.00
 
Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.
 
Jose Illeg al has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.
 
Joe Legal's and Jose Illegal's children both attend the same school. Joe Legal pays for his children's lunches while Jose Illegal's children get a government sponsored lunch.
 
Jose Illegal's children have an after school ESL program. Joe Legal's children go home.
Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same Police and Fire Services, but Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay.
 
Don't vote/support any politician that supports illegal aliens....   
Its PAST time to take a stand for America and Americans!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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alph
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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2009, 03:45:26 PM »

My son has a very mild case of Williams’s syndrome.  There is a Mexican kid in his class that gets to have an assistant present to help him in class.  My son gets taken out and put in with the critically disable Kids while the mexican kid gets to have an interpreter explain what the teacher is teaching right in class with the other kids making him look completely normal so that the other kids don't pick on him on the playground.   The school gets extra money because of my son's documented illness, non of which gets to my son because we don't want him to be separated from his class mates and fall further behind.  See, for our son to get assistance he would have to be taken out of the class and put in with the severely disable kids, not that I’m prejudice against that, I just don't like the fact that my son has been denied in class assistance but a non English speaking mexican kid gets assistance because he hasn't been taught English.

Am I upset, no, our school district is ran by doctors, and they're all idiots.


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Strong Eagle
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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2009, 03:49:40 PM »

Where did you get your "facts"?
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big d
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« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2009, 04:04:48 PM »

the facts are staring us in the face every day of our lives.Children of illegal immigrants are bused into other counties to get an education. illegal immigrants when injured are treated free and first in the clinics while americans working beside the illegals have to pay for their treatment and have to wait to be treated second. IF YOU WISH TO POST PLEASE DO NOT DO SO JUST TO GET A RISE OUT OF PEOPLE. PLEASE STICK TO THE FACTS IF YOU KNOW THEM. IF YOU DO NOT KNOW THE FACTS PLEASE DO NOT POST....
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« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2009, 04:26:25 PM »

the facts are staring us in the face every day of our lives.Children of illegal immigrants are bused into other counties to get an education. illegal immigrants when injured are treated free and first in the clinics while americans working beside the illegals have to pay for their treatment and have to wait to be treated second. IF YOU WISH TO POST PLEASE DO NOT DO SO JUST TO GET A RISE OUT OF PEOPLE. PLEASE STICK TO THE FACTS IF YOU KNOW THEM. IF YOU DO NOT KNOW THE FACTS PLEASE DO NOT POST....
...LOL.. thats a very polite way of sayin S T F U
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2009, 05:32:01 PM »

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens  each year by state governments.   Verify at: http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2.  $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.

 Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.htm

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!

 Verify at:

 http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html

 5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.

 Verify at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

 8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the Americantaxpayers.

Verify at: http://premium.cnn...com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html


9. $200 Billion dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that ' s two and a half times that of whitenon-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US .

 Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/1

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U.S.  from the Southern border..

 Verify at: Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl....com/t9sht


12. The National policy Institute, estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41and $46 billion annually over a five year period. '

  Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances to their countries of origin.

 Verify at: http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

14.  'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One million sex crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States. '

 Verify at: http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.

Are we THAT stupid? I guess so. The US gov't. has run a deportation program at least twice in the past. I think it should at least be considered again, watch how fast they start to disappear if it's threatened.

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« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2009, 06:36:08 PM »

They're not taking the jobs that Americans don't wanna do....they're taking the jobs that Americans USED to do. 
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« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2009, 07:10:49 PM »

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens  each year by state governments.   Verify at: http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2.  $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.

 Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.htm

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!

 Verify at:

 http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html

 5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.

 Verify at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

 8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the Americantaxpayers.

Verify at: http://premium.cnn...com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html


9. $200 Billion dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that ' s two and a half times that of whitenon-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US .

 Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/1

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U.S.  from the Southern border..

 Verify at: Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl....com/t9sht


12. The National policy Institute, estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41and $46 billion annually over a five year period. '

  Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances to their countries of origin.

 Verify at: http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

14.  'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One million sex crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States. '

 Verify at: http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.

Are we THAT stupid? I guess so. The US gov't. has run a deportation program at least twice in the past. I think it should at least be considered again, watch how fast they start to disappear if it's threatened.


...HEY [removed, no name calling]..WHERE YA AT??
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alph
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« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2009, 07:32:41 PM »

My parents came to America in the '50's, back then if you were on welfare you were there 'cause you couldn't work.  Now a days the people that run the welfare RACKET look for people to place onto the system so that they can spend their budget up to request more money for next year.

My facts; my parents ran a restaurant, when the girls turned 18 they would quit 'cause welfare paid better! (Often they were pregnant, that's called a bonus check!)

It’s not just the illegal aliens that are ripping off America, it’s also the leach American.
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« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2009, 11:27:37 PM »

the facts are staring us in the face every day of our lives.Children of illegal immigrants are bused into other counties to get an education. illegal immigrants when injured are treated free and first in the clinics while americans working beside the illegals have to pay for their treatment and have to wait to be treated second. IF YOU WISH TO POST PLEASE DO NOT DO SO JUST TO GET A RISE OUT OF PEOPLE. PLEASE STICK TO THE FACTS IF YOU KNOW THEM. IF YOU DO NOT KNOW THE FACTS PLEASE DO NOT POST....

Again, you have made several unsubstantiated allegations.  What is your source to back them up?

I  post to understand the truth, not accept an unsubstantiated rant as the way it actually is.

Cheers.
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« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2009, 11:29:23 PM »

[Name calling(above) and counter attack, removed.]
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Strong Eagle
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« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2009, 05:08:01 AM »

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens  each year by state governments.   Verify at: http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2.  $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.

 Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.htm

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!

 Verify at:

 http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html

 5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.

 Verify at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

 8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the Americantaxpayers.

Verify at: http://premium.cnn...com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html


9. $200 Billion dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that ' s two and a half times that of whitenon-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US .

 Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/1

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U.S.  from the Southern border..

 Verify at: Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl....com/t9sht


12. The National policy Institute, estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41and $46 billion annually over a five year period. '

  Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances to their countries of origin.

 Verify at: http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

14.  'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One million sex crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States. '

 Verify at: http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.

Are we THAT stupid? I guess so. The US gov't. has run a deportation program at least twice in the past. I think it should at least be considered again, watch how fast they start to disappear if it's threatened.




John, thanks for posting this.  There is a lot of material to go through and it will take me some time but I will be back.

Cheers.
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Clark
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« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2009, 06:56:53 AM »

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens  each year by state governments.   Verify at: http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2.  $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.

 Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.htm

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!

 Verify at:

 http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html

 5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.

 Verify at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

 8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the Americantaxpayers.

Verify at: http://premium.cnn...com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html


9. $200 Billion dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that ' s two and a half times that of whitenon-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US .

 Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/1

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U.S.  from the Southern border..

 Verify at: Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl....com/t9sht


12. The National policy Institute, estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41and $46 billion annually over a five year period. '

  Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances to their countries of origin.

 Verify at: http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

14.  'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One million sex crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States. '

 Verify at: http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.

Are we THAT stupid? I guess so. The US gov't. has run a deportation program at least twice in the past. I think it should at least be considered again, watch how fast they start to disappear if it's threatened.




John, thanks for posting this.  There is a lot of material to go through and it will take me some time but I will be back.

Cheers.

...OMG...WE CAN HARDLY WAIT...PLEEEEASE HURRY
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« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2009, 07:10:53 AM »

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens  each year by state governments.   Verify at: http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2.  $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.

 Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.htm

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!

 Verify at:

 http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html

 5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.

 Verify at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

 8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the Americantaxpayers.

Verify at: http://premium.cnn...com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html


9. $200 Billion dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that ' s two and a half times that of whitenon-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US .

 Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/1

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U.S.  from the Southern border..

 Verify at: Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl....com/t9sht


12. The National policy Institute, estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41and $46 billion annually over a five year period. '

  Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances to their countries of origin.

 Verify at: http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

14.  'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One million sex crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States. '

 Verify at: http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.

Are we THAT stupid? I guess so. The US gov't. has run a deportation program at least twice in the past. I think it should at least be considered again, watch how fast they start to disappear if it's threatened.




John, thanks for posting this.  There is a lot of material to go through and it will take me some time but I will be back.

Cheers.

...OMG...WE CAN HARDLY WAIT...PLEEEEASE HURRY



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« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2009, 07:20:21 AM »

...OMG...WE CAN HARDLY WAIT...PLEEEEASE HURRY

Clark, who are you speaking for besides yourself?  Or are you using a common literary technique that uses the 'we' as though you somehow have gone out and garnered broad support?  Have you got the cajones to say, "I"?

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« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2009, 09:44:24 AM »

I don't normally get involved in political posts, but this is one area that is of great concern to me. For those of you that care to do something about the immigration problems that we face I suggest very strongly that you visit www.numbersusa.com

Numbers USA is a NON PARTISAN group. And yes, they are actually trying to do something about the problem. If you go to this web site make sure you watch the gumball video, it is very eye opening to say the least. Once you sign up you will receive an email when there is important legislation that pertains to  immigration policies or votes that are pending. At that point all you have to do is click on a link and you can send a fax to the senator, congressman, or other politico to show your position on the subject.

I am not against immigration, I am against illegal immigration and the fact that it seems to be allowed for votes and favors.

One more thing before I get off my soap box, I personally think that the internet has been fabulous in some respects, but I really think it has hurt the main stream citizen. We send messages back and forth to like minded people complaining about this or that, and the politicians just sit back and laugh at us because we no longer actually protest what we feel strongly about.

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« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2009, 11:55:41 AM »


One more thing before I get off my soap box, I personally think that the internet has been fabulous in some respects, but I really think it has hurt the main stream citizen. We send messages back and forth to like minded people complaining about this or that, and the politicians just sit back and laugh at us because we no longer actually protest what we feel strongly about.

JimC

I write my electorate weekly.  both senators, mt rep, my governor, and my state rep.  I have them on 'Speed e-mail'.

They probably all know me.  I might be running against one of them here soon.

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« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2009, 12:04:04 PM »

John, thanks for posting this.  There is a lot of material to go through and it will take me some time but I will be back.
Cheers.

++++++++++++++++++++++++
Wayne, I'm sure there will be "stuff" in that collection that's hard to swallow, I'm sure there is some massaging of the figures as is always the case when looking at reports of this type. The party creating the reports naturally want their postion to look the best...or worst, as the case may be. I didn't go through all of it yet but will eventually....as time allows. If nothing else, it gives food for thought.

Wish I could figure out how to "quote" only a portion of a post. It doesn't seem to work if I shade over a section and hit the quote box...still gives the entire message which I didn't feel necessary to post in this response.
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« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2009, 01:02:02 PM »

Wish I could figure out how to "quote" only a portion of a post. It doesn't seem to work if I shade over a section and hit the quote box...still gives the entire message which I didn't feel necessary to post in this response.

I just hit the "Quote" button and delete what I don't want to include from between the brackets.
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« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2009, 02:33:57 PM »

...OMG...WE CAN HARDLY WAIT...PLEEEEASE HURRY

Clark, who are you speaking for besides yourself?  Or are you using a common literary technique that uses the 'we' as though you somehow have gone out and garnered broad support?  Have you got the cajones to say, "I"?


....as my counsel would say.. "we'll let the record speak for itself"
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« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2009, 03:26:20 PM »

strong eagle, you win. keep living your life overseas. while over there you can live your life in that wonderful fantasy land you've created. IF YOU EVER COME BACK FROM SINGAPORE I HOPE THAT THIS COUNTRY IS WORTH COMMING HOME TO. IT IS SAID THAT WHEN YOU ARGUE WITH A MENTALLY CHALLENGED PERSON, WHICH ONE IS TRULY THE HANDICAPPED? YOU OBVIOUSLY JUST LIKE TO TRY AND GET A RISE OUT OF PEOPLE. GOOD LUCK WITH YOU LIFE.
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« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2009, 06:47:10 PM »

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens  each year by state governments.   Verify at: http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2.  $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.

 Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.htm

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!

 Verify at:

 http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html

 5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.

 Verify at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

 8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the Americantaxpayers.

Verify at: http://premium.cnn...com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html


9. $200 Billion dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that ' s two and a half times that of whitenon-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US .

 Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/1

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U.S.  from the Southern border..

 Verify at: Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl....com/t9sht


12. The National policy Institute, estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41and $46 billion annually over a five year period. '

  Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances to their countries of origin.

 Verify at: http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

14.  'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One million sex crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States. '

 Verify at: http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.

Are we THAT stupid? I guess so. The US gov't. has run a deportation program at least twice in the past. I think it should at least be considered again, watch how fast they start to disappear if it's threatened.




John, thanks for posting this.  There is a lot of material to go through and it will take me some time but I will be back.

Cheers.

..lol..times up..... how do you spell F O R F E I T ??????
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