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« on: March 25, 2013, 06:07:40 PM » |
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So last night I turned the fuel petcock to off. Today I started up the bike, warmed it up, and rode off on it. About a mile down the road it occurred to me that I never turned it back to on! It would seem that turning it to off isn't turning it off  I guess I gotta take it to the dealer for repair? |
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Gavin_Sons
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« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2013, 06:11:04 PM » |
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Id replace it with a manual pingle. Gets rid of the vacuum on the petcock. It should have started sputtering within a mile espically if it idled for a few minutes before you took off.
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Daddie O
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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2013, 06:12:23 PM » |
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I'm not real mechanically inclined unfortunately.
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« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2013, 06:20:54 PM » |
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There is enough fuel in the carbs to run for 2-4 miles with the petcock turned off. Try running a steady speed at about 60 mph in 5th gear on a flat road. Turn off the petcock and it should take 60-70 seconds to reach fuel starvation. Turn it back on and should refill carbs in a couple of seconds.
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Daddie O
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« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2013, 06:27:05 PM » |
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There is enough fuel in the carbs to run for 2-4 miles with the petcock turned off. Try running a steady speed at about 60 mph in 5th gear on a flat road. Turn off the petcock and it should take 60-70 seconds to reach fuel starvation. Turn it back on and should refill carbs in a couple of seconds.
I'll give that a try. |
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« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2013, 07:49:10 PM » |
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So last night I turned the fuel petcock to off. Today I started up the bike, warmed it up, and rode off on it. About a mile down the road it occurred to me that I never turned it back to on! It would seem that turning it to off isn't turning it off I guess I gotta take it to the dealer for repair? First off yes it can run out of gas in a mile....or if you being easy on it it may not. Second, if you tried to turn it off but didnt get that little ball thing snaped in good, it was really on reserve. DONT take it to the dealer to "repair" it....just change it out for a good manual valve. |
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Daddie O
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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2013, 08:08:20 PM » |
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It may not have truly been off as you said. When I just went to the garage to turn it off again I noticed how you have to get it exactly right. Would've been a better design if all the way down was off instead of somewhere in the middle.
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« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2013, 05:20:54 AM » |
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a good hooker is cheeper than a dealer by the hour look for a local independent shop
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R J
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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2013, 05:47:44 AM » |
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Daddy O, you don't have listed what state you are in, in your profile, so kind of hard to paoint you in the right direction.
What state and or town are you around, there has to be someone close by that could help you with any problems with the bike.
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Daddie O
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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2013, 07:58:20 AM » |
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I live close to Sacramento, CA
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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2013, 09:21:10 AM » |
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Unless you're doing highway speeds, there is enough fuel in the carbs to ride 1-3 miles with the fuel shut off before stalling. You can also idle about 15 minutes with the fuel off.
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« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2013, 03:50:57 PM » |
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So last night I turned the fuel petcock to off. Today I started up the bike, warmed it up, and rode off on it. About a mile down the road it occurred to me that I never turned it back to on! It would seem that turning it to off isn't turning it off I guess I gotta take it to the dealer for repair?Did you save all of that reading material I gave you links for when you first joined up asking about Valkyrie manuals? One of those was the Carl Kulow Valkyrie Maintenance Manual. http://www.valkyrieriders.com/ShopTalk/ValkMaintManAcrobatPDF.pdfIn it, it tells you how to remove the tank. You'll need to learn how to do it just to change your air filter. It's not hard to do. Once the tank is off, it's just a matter of unscrewing the petcock to remove it....either for repair or replace. |
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« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2013, 04:25:50 PM » |
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After riding 9 miles home with my petcock switched Off I started not to trust it and asked for a Pingel for Christmas. I only installed the Pingel on Saturday so I don't have any experience as of yet.
I never had any other problems with the stock petcock besides that one incident.
I theorized that maybe if I shut off the petcock while the bike was running it would work better than if I shut the bike off first so that's what I did from then on.
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« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2013, 05:26:42 PM » |
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out of habit I shut mine off first then kill the engine
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« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2013, 08:21:18 PM » |
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What model number of Pingle for the Standard?
Mine will rnu indefinitely with the gas shut off, only sputtering after getting to 65MPH, and never runs the float bowls dry. I do know that reserve works, as I ran it out in the ON position.
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mmurffy03
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« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2013, 09:59:10 PM » |
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pingle #1311 CH is the non vacuum petcock for all Valkyries 1997 - 2003
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« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2013, 08:55:48 AM » |
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There must be a lot of Valkyries running with ineffective stock petcocks.
Which is a testament to the fine carburetors on the Valkyrie.
My stock petcock not being able to be easily shut off was the reason for getting my Pingle.
I sold the old stock petcock and knob and bracket on E-Bay and it ended up being a break even deal.
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« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2013, 12:37:08 AM » |
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It might be a stupid question, but do you have to turn it off? I often forget to do it and it starts right up the next morning and there is no smell of gas or something  |
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« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2013, 06:07:49 AM » |
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It might be a stupid question, but do you have to turn it off? I often forget to do it and it starts right up the next morning and there is no smell of gas or something Theres not a whole lot of reasoning behind turning off an OEM petcock each time (except maybe for trailering) because if its working it cannot flow gas without vacuum. If its broke it may not be off even if you turn it off. Its a piece of junk and problem waiting to happen. As I see it every Valkyrie owner has the options......run the OEM until it becomes a problem (and it will) or replace it with a good piece of equipment |
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« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2013, 04:02:31 PM » |
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Its a piece of junk and problem waiting to happen.
As I see it every Valkyrie owner has the options......run the OEM until it becomes a problem (and it will) or replace it with a good piece of equipment
I don't want to jinx myself, but I have 170,000 miles on the OEM petcock on my Standard and it's never been a problem. Personal experience is not always universally applicable. |
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« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2013, 08:27:27 PM » |
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Its a piece of junk and problem waiting to happen.
As I see it every Valkyrie owner has the options......run the OEM until it becomes a problem (and it will) or replace it with a good piece of equipment
I don't want to jinx myself, but I have 170,000 miles on the OEM petcock on my Standard and it's never been a problem. Personal experience is not always universally applicable. Want a spare?? I just happen to have a nice completely rebuilt factory unit. |
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« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2013, 06:41:18 AM » |
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Its a piece of junk and problem waiting to happen.
As I see it every Valkyrie owner has the options......run the OEM until it becomes a problem (and it will) or replace it with a good piece of equipment
I don't want to jinx myself, but I have 170,000 miles on the OEM petcock on my Standard and it's never been a problem. Personal experience is not always universally applicable. The fact that some, even many have no problem with it for many miles doesnt change the fact that its a piece of junk. As usual YMMV and an opinion is worth about what you paid for it. The fact that I believe strongly in though and suggest for anyone that starts having a problem with an OE valve..........replace it instead of fixing. Once it starts having issues they can go on and on. Being stranded in your garage is one thing. On a country road far from home is more like what is likely. |
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« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2013, 07:39:49 AM » |
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On a country road far from home is more like what is likely. Isn't that where most things fail ? |
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« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2013, 07:42:09 AM » |
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Id replace it with a manual pingle  |
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« Reply #24 on: April 02, 2013, 08:37:27 AM » |
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I was still running a unmolested OEM petcock when I put a manual Pingle on MGM.
I'd got and asked for a Pingle on my Christmas list a few years ago.
Got tired of moving it from one spot to another in my garage when working on other vehicles. Plus, I started it once and gas poured out of a carb.
Got out my trusty screw driver, grabbed it by the bit and hit all 6 of them with the handle.. Leak finally stopped, so I grabbed the Pingle, installed it and then put the Dan Marc switch on also.
I believe in fixing things when they fail the 1st time, not when I get stranded on the road.
I had plenty of that setting along side the road waiting for the CHP fix um truck to come pick up my Hardly Diversion.
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« Reply #25 on: April 02, 2013, 04:14:53 PM » |
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LOL my Hydrolock occured in my garage about 5am on a work day. This is my luck when my stuff breaks down it's usually in my driveway or garage.
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