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Author Topic: Steal Braided break lines  (Read 2536 times)
greggh
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« on: June 28, 2009, 09:34:07 PM »

I know some of you other Valk riders are using them.
Where can I get them and how munch do they run?

Also what all shoud be replaced, just the Lines?

Any info will be greatly appreciated.

TIA
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Madmike
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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2009, 10:46:42 PM »

http://www.helusa.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=48_49_78_218&products_id=3309

http://www.spieglerusa.com/cfm/brakelines.cfm

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greggh
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« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2009, 06:05:24 AM »

Great thats just what I was looking for.
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FLAVALK
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« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2009, 06:06:17 AM »

I had Goodridge front brake lines for several years but the ends started to corrode. Replced them with Galfer. The Galfer's certainly fit the bike better and looks like they are better quality. I don't recall the price.
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« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2009, 07:15:42 AM »

Do they break when you munch on them?
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« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2009, 07:20:39 AM »

break the brake lines.. Sorry, couldn't resist.. Cheesy
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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2009, 08:01:24 AM »

For those of you who have the steel braided lines, do they make a noticable difference in brake performance?  I just bought a 2003 Std. and the front brakes feel like they could use a little help.
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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2009, 09:38:26 AM »

For those of you who have the steel braided lines, do they make a noticable difference in brake performance?  I just bought a 2003 Std. and the front brakes feel like they could use a little help.

I think the difference is noticeable but not significant. The certainly look waaay better.
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« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2009, 10:32:03 AM »

http://www.phatperformanceparts.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=HN2836-1RCH

http://www.phatperformanceparts.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=HN2836-2FCH


not sure if they are a steal or not.......



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« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2009, 08:28:06 PM »

For those of you who have the steel braided lines, do they make a noticable difference in brake performance?  I just bought a 2003 Std. and the front brakes feel like they could use a little help.


I think they made the brakes much stiffer, and to me that means better, not so mushy.




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R J
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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2009, 10:04:21 PM »

For those of you who have the steel braided lines, do they make a noticable difference in brake performance?  I just bought a 2003 Std. and the front brakes feel like they could use a little help.

I think the difference is noticeable but not significant. The certainly look waaay better.

In answer to your question, yes, there is a signifcant  difference.

Rubber lines will expand and make for a mushy brake.   Braided lines don't flex, so you have a solid pedal....... and much better stopping power.
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« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2009, 04:04:19 AM »

I added ss lines, front and rear this last winter.  Brakes feel firmer, and lines look better.  Win-win.
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« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2009, 09:43:33 AM »

R J  writes:  In answer to your question, yes, there is a signifcant  difference.

Rubber lines will expand and make for a mushy brake.   Braided lines don't flex, so you have a solid pedal....... and much better stopping power.


I disagree with your premise that stock brake lines lack braiding.  If you cut open your stock brake line you will find braiding molded internally in the multi-layered line.  Actually the only rubber is the outside covering to help protect the working part of the line and the inside is made of much more tough materials.

The stainless braiding you see on the outside of those aftermarket lines is purely cosmetic. They too have internally molded braiding just like the stock brake lines.

Remember there are a number of federal agencies that dictate how things have to be with the eye to safety.  The only improvement to stock brake lines would be steel tubing of which there already is some on the Valkyrie. (look to find some)

Those braided stainless lines and the magnum lines which are plated copper braiding are simply bling and don't add any safety margin except for a little more scuff resistance.
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« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2009, 10:59:11 AM »

R J  writes:  In answer to your question, yes, there is a signifcant  difference.

Rubber lines will expand and make for a mushy brake.   Braided lines don't flex, so you have a solid pedal....... and much better stopping power.


I disagree with your premise that stock brake lines lack braiding.  If you cut open your stock brake line you will find braiding molded internally in the multi-layered line.  Actually the only rubber is the outside covering to help protect the working part of the line and the inside is made of much more tough materials.

The stainless braiding you see on the outside of those aftermarket lines is purely cosmetic. They too have internally molded braiding just like the stock brake lines.

Remember there are a number of federal agencies that dictate how things have to be with the eye to safety.  The only improvement to stock brake lines would be steel tubing of which there already is some on the Valkyrie. (look to find some)

Those braided stainless lines and the magnum lines which are plated copper braiding are simply bling and don't add any safety margin except for a little more scuff resistance.

Ricky-D, if that be the case, then why does a flexible line get a bubble right at the fitting before it blows?

Yes, there is braiding in a flex line but not near the same amount or strength as on the outside holding it all together.........
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« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2009, 10:16:09 PM »



Ricky-D, if that be the case, then why does a flexible line get a bubble right at the fitting before it blows?

Yes, there is braiding in a flex line but not near the same amount or strength as on the outside holding it all together.........

It's the same with the brake lines on a 4x4.  With longer brake lines on a lifted Jeep or truck you can definitely be able to tell a difference in brake response and pedal feel.
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Udo
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« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2009, 11:42:38 AM »

I´ve changed to those lines with all my bikes, and will do in future. They don´t expand like the rubber lines. So, the pressure point is better to detect. With the rubber lines, i always think, there is air in the system, or a spring load.....
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« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2009, 09:55:04 PM »

Many years ago I changed to braided lines and, wouldn't you know it, I found myself in a quick-stop situation right away. I grabbed a mit full of front brake - like I was used to doing, and washed out the front tire instantly. Lesson learned: They do work better and don't forget it! uglystupid2
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