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TheValk
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« on: June 30, 2009, 04:07:08 PM »

Looking for info on Ironbutt rides on a Valk. Wonder if anyone has done any extreme rides partic. a 10/10ths? Interested in how you manage fuel use and times.
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« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2009, 08:16:38 PM »

Nothing quite that extreme but I've done at least 9 SS1000's 2 SS1500's and 3980 miles in 4 days. Get a seat that works for you. If you're not riding an Interstate get an Interstate tank or a belly tank. 175 miles on an I/S tank is doable most times and that is usually far enough between stops after about 6 hours and plus.

Have fun.

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« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2009, 09:40:05 PM »

Thanks capt'n- that's a great help- by the way, any more pic's of your bike? (I assume that's it with soem awsome pipes). Cheers from Australia
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« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2009, 11:32:54 PM »

Don't know his contact info or if he checks out the boards on a regular basis...but theres a guy from VA, goes by the handle "Skeeter" I believe, that has participated in several Iron Butt rides. Met him a coupla times last year (Valhalla ride and at INZANE). Highbinder might have his contact info.
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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2009, 06:52:39 AM »

I've not yet done one on my Valk, but have a couple of SS 1000's and one Bun Burner Gold (1536 mi in 23h40m).  For the extreme ride I found a GPS with average speed display extremely useful.  Know what your average needs to be and do what it takes to stay above that number!!!  I kept the power on continuously so it wouldn't reset.  The BBG was done on a BMW R1200GS with a stock seat.  However, I would not readily consider such a feat on a stock seat again!!  I think my interstate seat would be adequate though.

As important as decent range is detailed route planning so that you can have fuel stops that maximize your available range.  Stopping more than you have to is very time inefficient.  For remote areas at night, find what station(s) are at the stop, call ank make sure they're open!  On my first SS 1000, the only station oopen in Cedar City UT at 3:00 am was automated, and  printed the date stamped reciept inside the locked station!!!  Got to a motel in time and used that receipt to verify my time.  Finally, check for road construction on the route, and change the route if necessary.
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« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2009, 07:13:59 AM »

I agree with all that wd40 said.

Lots of pix of the Black Pearl on the VRCC justpics site:

http://photo.vrccservices.com/thumbnails.php?album=87

The long pipes were on the Black Pearl I which was wrecked and gone. The Black Pearl II is a spitting image almost of I but no glasspacks or long pipes on it.

I didn't realize you were in AU. I'd say gas stop planning woudl be very important for you. I've also carried spare gas in up to 5 gallon containers on Ironbutt rides.

FYI, you won't find me listed on th "official" Ironbutt sire but on time, I'm not all that in to paying $50 plus for the peice of paper. the looong ride is what I like most anyway.

TonyT you going to be riding up here in the USA or AU?

Raymond
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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2009, 02:36:26 PM »

Don't know his contact info or if he checks out the boards on a regular basis...but theres a guy from VA, goes by the handle "Skeeter" I believe, that has participated in several Iron Butt rides. Met him a coupla times last year (Valhalla ride and at INZANE). Highbinder might have his contact info.
        Here I am...I usually do not post any more, but I had a ball doing Iron Butts. It's a real challenge and not just $50. bucks for a piece of paper as mentioned. I'm long time ago retired and love to ride..54 yrs of riding to date. ! . Like the VRCC, I have met life long friends Butt riding.  
I combined the 5000 mile in 5 days with the Coast to Coast to Coast ie..VA BCH, VA to Jax, Fl to San Diego, Ca and back within 100 hrs. Carefully planned, I slept 4 hrs in Junction TX..4 hours in San Diego, back to Junction TX for 4 hrs (they left the lights on and hid the key for me ) , then Jax then continued on to Va Bch, Va. Started in Jax with 68 bikes, but after the first couple of fuel stops, you're on your own due to the different fuel requirements. I carried an xtra 2.5 gal in a thermo sack I used for a back rest. Having the Int. tank on my STD helped especially in Tx where speed limits are 75 mph and if your not running with the stampede, you will get run over. I never needed to use my extra gas, but there was a Valk Interstate on the Butt Run out of gas in TX, so I gave it to him...

The toughest ride was the 1500 miles in 24...YIKES !!.....I was 67 yrs old when I did all this crazy stuff...I HAD to face the challenges. Some of the guys 1/2 my age gave up in San Diego and took the rewards for the one way ride and slept in and took their time coming back and that's OK...You will know when you have had eneough to remain safe....I think the 1000K in 36 hrs or 24 hrs would be a start for alot of guys.

Like I mentioned, I met alot of nice people and had a very pleasant get to gether back in Jax when the Coast to Coast to Coast was over. We had such a great time at a local BBQ place next door to the hotel while jabbering about all the adventures....I want to do the "Four Corners" of the USA....that's next...

I MUST share this.......I was somewhere in TX and cruising speed limit plus 5 mph which is 80 mph..Four Butt Gold Wings came by me ( had to be doing 90 +..all layed back with falling asleep attitudes ) and looked at me like I'm a miss fit of sorts as I didn't have on my white tights and a dozen or two awards hanging from my jean jacket. I gave them the low V sign and they gave me a tollereated smerky nod. I watched them dissapear over a train tressle hill . When I came down the other side, the TX Hiway  Patrol had all four pulled over and when I went by I gave them a little air horn toot and a smerky nod.  PRICKS !!   Grin

I'm a certified wittness checking guys out and in from Butt Rides and if I can offer more info to anyone, I sure would be happy to do so.......dave whitney   Skeeter..........dvw727@msn.com.........
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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2009, 02:59:55 PM »

The toughest ride was the 1500 miles in 24...YIKES !!.....

Interesting that you should say that.  I completed the 1500 in 24 but didn't finish the Coast to Coast.  Good planning makes a lot of difference.
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« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2009, 07:10:09 PM »

Willow...I remeber months of planning the CCC 100.....then I got complacent and followed a group to the wrong motel in San Diego (no GPS then)...I had it planned to the hour and being tired...I flowed in and lost 35 minutes of rest. As you know, we have to go to the beach and collect sand and sea water as well..I ended up only getting 3 hrs sleep in San Diego. I did a few goofy things by being tired...ie  passing up a gas station at midnight on reserve just before going over the mountain to San Diego...Thank Moses there was a gas station in the hills..?????  
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« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2009, 07:45:37 PM »

I did a SS1000 on a Tourer with a stock tank and stock seat in 2006.  I left Baker, WY and finished at Chandler, OK 1056 miles in 16 hours and 10 minutes.  Like the other riders said the secret of a sucessful Ironbutt Ride is careful planning both for your route and fuel stops.  I tried to do my fuel stops every 100 to 125 miles.  I wrote down the speedometer milage on every receipt as soon as I got it.  I would also make sure the name, telephone, and address of the stop was on every receipt.  I then put them in a ziplock style sandwich bag to keep them together and dry in case of rain.  I wish you luck on your rides, they can be done on a Valk, they are just a little more challenging.     
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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2009, 08:04:07 PM »

...  I tried to do my fuel stops every 100 to 125 miles.  ... they can be done on a Valk, they are just a little more challenging. 

Jim, you know I don't like to be argumentative, but if I don't get at least 160 between fuel stops I consider it a personal failure.
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« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2009, 08:08:18 PM »

...  I tried to do my fuel stops every 100 to 125 miles.  ... they can be done on a Valk, they are just a little more challenging. 

Jim, you know I don't like to be argumentative, but if I don't get at least 160 between fuel stops I consider it a personal failure.


I got that once out of a standard tank. But I can't drive 55 all the time.

Raymond!!!
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« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2009, 09:03:27 PM »

I got that once out of a standard tank. But I can't drive 55 all the time.

Raymond!!!


Nor can I.   Wink

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Black Pearl's Captain
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« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2009, 09:07:08 PM »

You wasted 2 hours 23 minutes out of a pefectly good riding day? Shame on you Carl. That right there says too little of gas tank to me.

Enjoy the weekend Carl,

Raymond
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« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2009, 12:03:32 PM »

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Jim, you know I don't like to be argumentative, but if I don't get at least 160 between fuel stops I consider it a personal failure.

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You argumentative, why the thought never occured to me!  Roll Eyes  I did that with a stock seat and my ass couldn't go 160 if I had the gas.  I still rode the last 200 miles standing up most of the time!!!   crazy2  Have a great weekend. 
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« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2009, 03:19:17 PM »

You argumentative, why the thought never occured to me!  Roll Eyes  I did that with a stock seat and my ass couldn't go 160 if I had the gas.  I still rode the last 200 miles standing up most of the time!!!   crazy2  Have a great weekend. 

 Smiley  I rode a stock 98 seat for about fifty miles and my hat is off to anyone who could go further.
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« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2009, 07:04:33 PM »

OMG When I bought my 98 it had a stock seat with some of the padding pulled out  of the back of it so the guy who had it before me (6'1" and 350) could fit on it. I did a morning ride that was 120 miles in 3 hours that first weekend and could barely walk, stand, sit, move at the end of it. those old seats were CRAP. Running a IS seat off a 2003 and it is fairly decent have done several 4-5 hour rides on it with only some moderate discomfort. Still researching and checking out seats for a final decision. The big test will be if I manage to bug out for Inzane. Will be a solid 1k in about 15 hours.
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« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2009, 04:07:11 PM »

  Here is a good story about a rally in Utah on a Valk. Type in Utah1088 in google go into riderstories on the home page go to stories 2002 Brain Roberts is the Author. The story is called "through the eyes of last place" I liked it. If u ride a valk u can easily relate to the things he says
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« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2009, 07:17:38 PM »

Did an Iron Butt about two years ago....First get a decent seat, I have a Mustang and have had no problems...Second try to plan as much highway as possible, and avoid larger cities during any type of rush hour....I went from Mobile, AL to Des Moines....why Des Moines you ask? no particular reason just seemed like a good destination and 1100 miles, wanted a few extra miles just to make sure I had enough..........Try to leave EARLY in the morning, I left at 3 am and that put me at my destination at 11 pm, so I wasn't really tired (didnt get in really late).....try to contact the hotel where you plan on ending (our clerk didnt want to sign our ending sheet) we never sent the paperwork in so it didn't matter, but I was pissed that the butt refused to put his name on anything for us......we got a cashier at a Burger King to sign it....You can do 500 out and 500 back to have the ride, but I told my wife we had to go straight out 1000 so I could have an enjoyable ride back.....24 hours out 4 days back....We didn't really plan anything just rode till we needed gas and then stopped. I was on a tourer, no problems....had a blast plan on doing it again and getting the certificate this time.................
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« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2009, 07:53:30 PM »



Here is a ride report I posted on another message board after I did my SS1000 in 2007 (sorry about the length, but it tells pretty much the whole story)



My Butt Is Now Made of Iron.... But My Spine Is Crepe Paper


Well I (we) did it... 1057 miles in 22 hours! Been planning this ride since March and Friday was the day. With trepidation, about 5 minutes after I woke up at 1:30 am began to get ready...

Decided to plan a route that most people could picture in their minds and give them some idea of the distance ridden. Instead of saying "we went to (insert state) and back", it is much easier to say we went "in a big circle around Lakes Ontario and Erie".

Friend was on a 2007 Harley Streetglide    
Nephew was on a 2007 Hayabusa    - he's 25 so we figured he could handle the physical part of being hunched over.
Me, on my 97 Valkyrie Standard

The Preparation:

Loaded up the Valk with couple changes of clothes, some handtools, a camera (more on the lack of photos later), rainsuit (more on that too, later), cell phone, 12 forms of ID (border crossings), MP3 player, and most of my nephew's stuff; he was on a Hayabusa after all, he only had room for money and keys pretty much.

Time to go:

Met at a local gas station at 3:00am. Planned to go clockwise around the lakes - Youngstown, OH to Toledo, up to Detroit, across the border, east, etc. Well before I left the house checked the weather map and a low pressure - cold front they had been talking about all week was bearing down on Ohio moving southeast. The weatherchannel.com radar showed a huge blob of green/yellow over Toledo... damn! Well we met at the gas station and decided to go counterclockwise to stay ahead of front and to loop around hopefully north of it and then back east behind it. Well that's what we thought, but more on that later. Kickstands up at 3:10 am and off we go...

The Ride:

Actually the ride was pretty uneventful. All interstates, for the sake of time. Averaged about 70-80 the whole way and we were making pretty good time until the weather problems. Nothing major mind you, just a shower here and there that lasted 5-10 minutes - except for one, but more on that later. Took all of 22 hours for various reasons.

To summarize it all...

The Good:

Was a great ride! Not too much scenery as all interstates look alike pretty much.
Very cathartic riding, lost in my thoughts and my music mile after mile.
The Valk ran great and was very comfortable throughout.
The Mustang seat and Alaska Leather sheepskin, with the addition of some special unmentionables (no, they were not silk or lace  ) allowed for great comfort.
Traffic was reasonable for 1050 of those miles, only two cager problems.
1 - PA Trooper - flew past us going somewhere, 2 - NY Troopers - paid us no mind, 1 - OPP (Ontario Provincial Police) Officer - helping someone else. We were intrigued by the speeding fines of $300 for 80mph (whatever KM that equals). Ouch!, 0 - Michigan Troopers - they don't like to get wet. 1 - Ohio Trooper - too dark to see us.
Another quick Canada story, my nephew wanted to stop at a fast-food place in Gananoque, Ontario after we got gas. I drove right past it... once we turned around and went back I told him... what do you expect, the sign was in Canadian (ba-dum-ba- chink!)  
The $30 Army-Navy Store rainsuit did its job amicably.
Great company, we all cooperated and had no personailty issues.
No issues at either border crossing... 1000 Islands region of New York/Ontario going in to Canada...Detroit to get back in. Both customs guys were very nice and after they heard about what we were doing, they got us through very quickly. The wait at either crossing was only about 15 minutes.

The Bad:

Going up I-79 towards Erie, PA at 4:00 am is nervewracking! This highway is pretty desolate at night only a few other cars/trucks on it. It is farmland... I was looking for glowing, beedy, deer eyes the whole time and praying I didn't see any. A few times caught a glimpse of a road reflector that ended up in the weeds (eyes! eyes! everywhere!) and had some maalox moments.
We hit a few 5-10 minute rain storms w/light rain, maybe 3 or 4. Not a problem because we had rainsuits but when it wasn't raining, it was warmer and humid making the raincoats unbearable so we had to stop to put them on, then take them off, then on again. Finally I just kept the pants on and only switched the coat on an off...still this made for extra stops, even a 5-10 minutes it added to the time.
We made great time for the first 350-400 miles and it looked like we were going to get home in 16 hours or so... but the stops got longer, the above mentioned rainsuit foibles, and traffic (later) and it quickly stretched.
I got horrendous gas mileage! Usually get about 120-130 miles out of a tank on the Valk. Because of the speeds, was getting about 100 out of a tank. That meant more gas stops. Had to go on reserve a few times and was worried that I was going to run out before the next gas station.
Because of the above mentioned things, stopping to take any pictures was impossible, too worried about time.
We were literally 1/2 mile from our home exit... a drunk in the interstate was doing his/her best to take up all the lanes.

The Ugly:

Toronto Traffic! Rush hour. On the original plan to go clockwise this would have put us in Detroit right before rush hour and in Toronto (which some Canadian riders warned me about) around 11am +/- 1 hour. Well by going counter clockwise we hit Buffalo morning rush hour which wasn't too bad, but we hit Toronto afternoon rush hour. Holy Crap! it took us 1.5 hours to go about 10 miles! My clutch hand was swearing at me and I had my raincoat on! Pant, Pant, Pant! The second worst part of the trip.

Woodhaven, Michigan. Just south of Detroit, and I really shouldn't blame the city but I had no idea that they got MONSOONS there!!! We hit a rainstorm from hell there. Luckily had the rainsuits on but my clear glasses got wet outside and inside. I could not see anything and decided that when I ran over the plywood sheet in the middle of the freeway that it was time to get under a bridge. I figured at that point if it had been a 2x4 or a truck tire carcass, I would be on the pavement. We got under a bridge only to find that in Michigan the shoulder under the bridges near Woodhaven are about 36 inches wide! Real fun feeling watching/feeling the truck drive past you, in a monsoon mind you, at 80mph! The other guys could see much better then me so they tucked me in between and they rode with 4-ways on at about 50-55 in the right lane until the storm past.

The Aftermath:

The Valk is dirty, dirty, dirty - I couldn't stand it and as soon as I woke up on Saturday I washed and waxed it.
Physically, it was not bad at all. My back is a bit sore, shoulders and neck moreso... 3 Advils cured that.

Would do it again in a second! ...Well maybe next year.
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TheValk
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« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2009, 02:36:59 AM »

This is just a great thank you to all who have taken the time to reply to my request for info. on long distance riding-I am planning a 10/10ths for Dec/Jan next year, and the posts have been extremely helpful- the Valk is not necessarily the easiest bike for the job (fuel etc etc) but it's the bike I ride.
Cheers from Australia.
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« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2009, 05:18:22 AM »

I hung out on the Long Distance Rider list for several years, lots of good info relating to riding long distances. 
I read a lot of ride reports a few years ago- although the long distance rides aren't a race, and comparing times is strictly frowned upon,  the time is recorded and the record for a Coast to Coast in 50 hours is held by a gentleman on a Valk I/S equipped with an auxiliary gas tank.  I haven't seen that particular writeup in a long time but I'll try to find it and post.

I want to do the CC50, and probably will do a 4-corners in the next year or 2 if all goes well.

Anybody in the Maryland/VA/DC area want to do a SS1000 together in the next month, let me know- I want the Ironbutt License plate holder!

Also I'm looking over the bike in preparation for purchasing & installing a Tour Tank aux tank- haven't pulled the trigger yet on that project but want to soon.
 
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« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2009, 08:07:19 AM »

Only did it once so far,

On the way home from IZ-6 I left CO and headed south and made it about 35mi. East of Amarillo TX. I got baked from the sun, found out what nothin was. Folks kept telling me "there's nothing down there". Had dinner then went to sleep. I woke up at 0200 and felt great and realized the sun was on the other side of the world and couldn’t get me from there so I headed East at 0230, I turned North in Nashville TN and made it to IN, about an hour and a half or so south of Versailles at 2330 local time, I’m not sure of the exit but there was a “Steak & Waffle” place just off of the exit and a Holiday inn down the road. I figure about 1100mi. I called my Cousin (they live in Versailles) the next morning and told her where I was, She said, Your coming to visit!  I said, Yep, that’s why I did 2 days of riding in 1 so I’d have an extra day…. 

This was on a 98 Tourer W/2000 Saddle. The Holiday Inn guy asked where I came from and when I told him he said “your ass must be killing you” I said, Nope I’m just tired now…

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« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2009, 12:06:56 PM »

I ran the SS1000 about five years ago.  I was on 1987 750 Magna.  I gotta say, that is not the best bike to do this ride on!!  I did it in 22 hours, but wasn't feeling real confident I was gonna make it at around 19 hours out.  Me and four others left at 3:00 am and everything went well until around 9:00 pm, which is when it started to rain.  We were in the upper peninsula of Michigan, nearing the Mackinaw Bridge.  The other four riders decided to take a chance and pour on the coals as soon as they crossed the bridge.  I decided to hold back and ride safely, thinking the paper wasn't worth the possibility of making my wife an early widow.

It poured for about 20 minutes and then the fog came.  I rode for an hour through very thick fog.  Then it rained again, then fog, and so on for the rest of the trip.  I was alone and it was the scariest ride I have ever taken.  Fortunately, the road rats decided not to come out and play in the fog, so I made it safely.  Funny part was, the other four got in about 45 minutes earlier than me and said they never ran into fog the whole ride.
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