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I am thinking of doing the MarkT Exhaust mod at Horseapple. The piggies cut and rear baffle drilled not enough.
Those of you WITH THIS MOD, please chime in...
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GJS
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« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2013, 02:16:52 PM » |
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I have a set of Mark's organ pipes. I had ordered the exhaust set with the extra 'bones' & crossover. When I drove to Franktown last summer and picked-up/installed the exhaust, I decided to not get the bones. I was happy with how loud the pipes were with just the final tail pipes out. I could not see myself ever wanting my bike that loud. Sounded AWSOME, but too loud for me. I love the look and sound I have with the organ pipes in. Louder then stock and deeper.  The way my pipes work is in one of three configurations: 1. Tails sections in (lowest volume, but louder and deeper than stock) 2. Tail pieces removed (Louder and a little more growly, close neighbours will notice) 3. Tail pieces removed and bones inserted. (Loud and gnarly, too loud for me, distinct sound though) It is a #1 or #2 or #3 deal. You can't mix it up. The bones effectively remove the glass packs by sliding in a sleeve creating a direct path back to the headers with no muffling. Compared to a loud twin, the Valk sounds like an angry Dragon compared to hurtin Hog. I just noticed the other day a large piece of chrome has come away from the right pipe in the end. you can see it if you look at the very end of the right pipe. I have not spoken with Mark about it yet. I love the sound and the look of the organ pipes! Best regards, GJS
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« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2013, 02:57:57 PM » |
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I don't recall anyone that posted here saying that they were dissatisfied with these pipes....I've had mine for about 12 years now after going through both Cobra 6x6 and TBR 6x6 on my bike.
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« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2013, 04:34:04 PM » |
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GJS...thanks for taking the time for such a detailed write up!
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« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2013, 06:42:54 PM » |
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« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2013, 06:54:21 PM » |
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Can't wait to see the /IMG. We have all made that mistake too. LOL
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« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2013, 07:56:24 PM » |
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I got my pipes done by Mark-the blades with the trombones and removable silencers with the cross over option and they are worth every cent IMO.The trombones in are loud but without them in have a great sound-Mark is a first class guy to deal with and his craftmanship is superb!
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« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2013, 12:08:11 PM » |
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I have a set of Mark's organ pipes. I had ordered the exhaust set with the extra 'bones' & crossover. When I drove to Franktown last summer and picked-up/installed the exhaust, I decided to not get the bones. I was happy with how loud the pipes were with just the final tail pipes out. I could not see myself ever wanting my bike that loud. Sounded AWSOME, but too loud for me. I love the look and sound I have with the organ pipes in. Louder then stock and deeper.  The way my pipes work is in one of three configurations: 1. Tails sections in (lowest volume, but louder and deeper than stock) 2. Tail pieces removed (Louder and a little more growly, close neighbours will notice) 3. Tail pieces removed and bones inserted. (Loud and gnarly, too loud for me, distinct sound though) It is a #1 or #2 or #3 deal. You can't mix it up. The bones effectively remove the glass packs by sliding in a sleeve creating a direct path back to the headers with no muffling. Compared to a loud twin, the Valk sounds like an angry Dragon compared to hurtin Hog. I just noticed the other day a large piece of chrome has come away from the right pipe in the end. you can see it if you look at the very end of the right pipe. I have not spoken with Mark about it yet. I love the sound and the look of the organ pipes! Best regards, GJS I happened to see this thread while surfing and being an enthusiast as well as exhaust builder. Not to make anybody self-conscious, but I might as well address this concern in this post. First, thx for the comments everybody. Of course my goal is to make the best product and service I can. Glenn - I see in the pic. looks like some chrome is peeling on the inside of the stack. I have to say, the chrome is not intended to to plated on the inside. Of course it gets in there because it's an immersion bath, but the metal underneath was not prepped for plating and so I'm sure it had contaminants on it, as well as not being polished in preparation for plating, like the outside. I have always expected the insides of the stacks to get coated in soot, and so the finish would be obscured on the inside in short order and so have not been concerned with it's appearance. I could have masked the outside and painted the inside with flat black header paint, but it never occurred to me anyone would expect that. I'm just going to say, the inside surface of my exhaust systems stacks, is supposed to get sooty and was not intentionally plated, so adhesion of chrome on the inside of the stacks is an issue the chrome company would not support and so I can't either. I would say, if you want to improve it, either run the bike long enough with the Organ Pipes out to allow the soot to coat the inside of the stack (the exhaust actually passes INSIDE the Organ Pipes, so they don't get sooty externally much, unlike the Hondaline Triple Tips which do get soot outside the tubes, making the Organ Pipes easier to keep clean), or clean the inside of the stack removing all oils and soot (oils don't burn off much because the 5" stacks don't get very hot) and pick up some high-temp black paint - engine or header paint, mask the outside of the stacks and paint the insides. Hope this helps. Mark
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GJS
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« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2013, 01:14:42 PM » |
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I have a set of Mark's organ pipes. I had ordered the exhaust set with the extra 'bones' & crossover. When I drove to Franktown last summer and picked-up/installed the exhaust, I decided to not get the bones. I was happy with how loud the pipes were with just the final tail pipes out. I could not see myself ever wanting my bike that loud. Sounded AWSOME, but too loud for me. I love the look and sound I have with the organ pipes in. Louder then stock and deeper.  The way my pipes work is in one of three configurations: 1. Tails sections in (lowest volume, but louder and deeper than stock) 2. Tail pieces removed (Louder and a little more growly, close neighbours will notice) 3. Tail pieces removed and bones inserted. (Loud and gnarly, too loud for me, distinct sound though) It is a #1 or #2 or #3 deal. You can't mix it up. The bones effectively remove the glass packs by sliding in a sleeve creating a direct path back to the headers with no muffling. Compared to a loud twin, the Valk sounds like an angry Dragon compared to hurtin Hog. I just noticed the other day a large piece of chrome has come away from the right pipe in the end. you can see it if you look at the very end of the right pipe. I have not spoken with Mark about it yet. I love the sound and the look of the organ pipes! Best regards, GJS I happened to see this thread while surfing and being an enthusiast as well as exhaust builder. Not to make anybody self-conscious, but I might as well address this concern in this post. First, thx for the comments everybody. Of course my goal is to make the best product and service I can. Glenn - I see in the pic. looks like some chrome is peeling on the inside of the stack. I have to say, the chrome is not intended to to plated on the inside. Of course it gets in there because it's an immersion bath, but the metal underneath was not prepped for plating and so I'm sure it had contaminants on it, as well as not being polished in preparation for plating, like the outside. I have always expected the insides of the stacks to get coated in soot, and so the finish would be obscured on the inside in short order and so have not been concerned with it's appearance. I could have masked the outside and painted the inside with flat black header paint, but it never occurred to me anyone would expect that. I'm just going to say, the inside surface of my exhaust systems stacks, is supposed to get sooty and was not intentionally plated, so adhesion of chrome on the inside of the stacks is an issue the chrome company would not support and so I can't either. I would say, if you want to improve it, either run the bike long enough with the Organ Pipes out to allow the soot to coat the inside of the stack (the exhaust actually passes INSIDE the Organ Pipes, so they don't get sooty externally much, unlike the Hondaline Triple Tips which do get soot outside the tubes, making the Organ Pipes easier to keep clean), or clean the inside of the stack removing all oils and soot (oils don't burn off much because the 5" stacks don't get very hot) and pick up some high-temp black paint - engine or header paint, mask the outside of the stacks and paint the insides. Hope this helps. Mark Hey Mark, Yeah I was thinking I'd pull the final pipes, mask the edges and spray the insides with flat black BBQ paint. Not a big deal in any event. Thanks, Glenn
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« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2013, 09:10:03 PM » |
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« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2013, 03:31:15 AM » |
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I had a set of the Mild3Wild as well and loved them....LOVED THEM. I wish I had another set (still thinking about it) Mark was a great guy to work with and I would highly recommend him to anybdy
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« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2013, 01:38:26 PM » |
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I've had Wild2Mild with Trombones for 13 or 14 years now, since I bought my '99 Standard and they look just as good as the first day I put them on..... NO KIDDING. The chrome is perfect and NOT chipping anywhere. I highly recommend them.
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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2013, 03:15:51 PM » |
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I'll chime in on my own thread...
After all your good comments, I took the plunge and bought a set. The sound and look are magnificent, and I am very pleased. Mark even went above and beyond with his effort to get the pipes to the shipper, so that they would arrive back to me as promised.
Kudos!
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« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2013, 08:04:02 PM » |
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I've had my MarkT Mild2Wild pipes for about a year and a half now and love them. I also found that the bones can create more sound than I can live with. BUT, they can be tuned to your liking by cutting them shorter so they don't eliminate all the baffling. This way you can decide on just the sound you like. Cutting them a bit at a time and taking a test ride would be the best idea, it's a lot easier to make them shorter than it would be to make them longer. Mark's website goes into this customization method.
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« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2013, 06:58:01 AM » |
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Keep it up and you guys are gonna cost me $$$$.....  Hay  Jimmyt
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« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2013, 07:21:03 AM » |
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Keep it up and you guys are gonna cost me $$$$.....  Hay  Jimmyt Supply Mark with your cores, and its just $$$... 
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« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2013, 10:44:54 AM » |
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Keep it up and you guys are gonna cost me $$$$.....  Hay  Jimmyt I know for a fact that you need a set Jimmy. They would look great on that IS.  TJ
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« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2013, 11:20:33 AM » |
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Keep it up and you guys are gonna cost me $$$$.....  Hay  Jimmyt I know for a fact that you need a set Jimmy. They would look great on that IS.  TJ You, Sir, are not helping the situation!! Hay  Jimmyt
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« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2013, 09:03:00 PM » |
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Mark's exhaust is a great addition to the Valk I have had mine for less than a year and I am really happy with it. I went all out and ordered the cross over, the silencers with organ pipes and trombones. I have only tested the silencers because I usually ride without them. As far as the trombones, I use them once in a while when I am in the mood  My only regret is that I ordered the 4" pipes and not the 5".  I am seriously thinking of selling the 4" exhaust and ordering a 5" from Mark, so if anyone wants to place an order from Mark, might as well go all out so you are not in the same situation.
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