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Wayne H
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« on: July 14, 2013, 05:00:11 PM » |
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Anybody ever tried towing a Valk with a Hitch mount tow Dolly? Or think of any problems with it?...I'm heading out to my place in Oklahoma, got to take the four wheeler so the Dog can go and like the idea of mounting the front wheel in the dolly and letting the bike roll on the rear wheel...Sure beats hauling the trailer out there...I can't think of any problems as long as the bike is in neutral.....Any ideas???
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Grumpy
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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2013, 05:35:47 PM » |
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Just that the gears will be turning with out any lubrication, even in neutral the main transmission shaft will be turning.
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« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2013, 05:49:03 PM » |
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Can you put the bike in the bed of the truck? I think ChrisJ hauls his Tourer in his pickup. Might have to leave the tailgate down. Harbor Freight has a drive in wheel chock not too expensive. I bought one and mounted it to a small concrete slab in front of the shop and use it to do maintenance work. It will hold the bike upright while you tie it down. Or maybe you have a car instead of truck when you said four wheeler.
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John Schmidt
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a/k/a Stuffy. '99 I/S Valk Roadsmith Trike
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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2013, 07:31:42 PM » |
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Grumpy's right, these bikes run off an oil pump....not splash lube. If the engine isn't running, it's not pumping oil to keep things well covered with that expensive duck butter.  Remember Wayne, there is an oil light that is triggered with oil pressure from below. I have a gauge that registers about 18psi at idle, believe it's near 60 at highway speed. No oil pressure, no lube. |
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Wayne H
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« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2013, 07:47:32 PM » |
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Understand the oil operation, but the transmission gears will not be turning...the bike will be in neutral with the engine not running so the only gear that will be turning is the one where the U Joint is connected...Same as a car when it's being towed...I'm gonna think about this...but I'm not convinced there's a problem...Auto Transmission, yes...but straight shift? I don't think so.
Appreciate your words of wisdom and will definitely give it further thought...Any other ideas or suggestions ?
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R J
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« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2013, 10:05:17 PM » |
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Wayne H, DO NOT do it. It firks up the tranny pretty good. Don't bother asking how I know.
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Wayne H
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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2013, 05:55:41 AM » |
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Appreciate you response R J, but I still have to ask How? As far as I an tell the only gears that will be turning is the reverse and driven gear on the output shaft.(Yes the Valkyrie does have a reverse gear) I understand the bearings on the output shaft may need oiling, but for the life of me I can't see problems beyond that. I know there's gonna be remarks about the reverse gear...The Valk and 1500 GoldWing use the same output shaft assembly but the Valk does not have a reverse idler gear. (Has a place for one) I know where they're located and how they work, found out first hand when the stater quit engaging on my G/W had to remove engine/transmission assembly from the wing remove the back cover and replace the starter and reverse idler gear... Any other remarks/suggestions Please send them.....Guess I'm just hard headed...or maybe  |
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Wayne H
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« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2013, 10:54:42 AM » |
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Your right on being hard headed R J, but I've decided to stand down on this because of the miles involved...If I only needed to haul it a short distance I probably would but I am concerned about the output shaft bearings not getting lube for over a thousand miles. I even thought about stopping occasionally and firing up the engine to allow for them to get oiled and I understand I could remove the drive shaft and eliminate the concern altogether...However!...considering the extremely lazy person I've become since retiring...........I find that loading it on the trailer is not all that bad...
Appreciate everybody's feedback on this.........Ya never know if ya don't ask...
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R J
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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2013, 11:19:04 AM » |
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If you don't have a trailer. U-Haul has one that will haul the Valk very nicely. It has a blip I call it, in the front rail. Ya run the front wheel into it and tire her down. I tie mine down to the lower engine guard and the saddle bag rail or the frame it no saddle bags. Keep the firkin side stand UP, turn off the gas. Front strap should pull FORWARD, and the rear strap should pull back wards. That way when ya get them adjusted tight, the bike can not go anywhere except with the trailer. When ya get the bike tied down, push it side to side. The trailer will follow the bike if you have it done right. I'll try to include 2 of my tie down pictures, since you seem to have lost some of your hard headiness. LOL.   |
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Wayne H
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« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2013, 04:31:47 PM » |
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Thanks, I do have a trailer, just hate using it....Maybe I can teach the Mutt to drive the car and I'll ride the bike up there...
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Grumpy
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« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2013, 06:05:22 PM » |
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Appreciate you response R J, but I still have to ask How? As far as I an tell the only gears that will be turning is the reverse and driven gear on the output shaft.(Yes the Valkyrie does have a reverse gear) I understand the bearings on the output shaft may need oiling, but for the life of me I can't see problems beyond that. I know there's gonna be remarks about the reverse gear...The Valk and 1500 GoldWing use the same output shaft assembly but the Valk does not have a reverse idler gear. (Has a place for one) I know where they're located and how they work, found out first hand when the stater quit engaging on my G/W had to remove engine/transmission assembly from the wing remove the back cover and replace the starter and reverse idler gear... Any other remarks/suggestions Please send them.....Guess I'm just hard headed...or maybe the main gear shaft turns even in neutral, when the rear wheel turns it turns. the gears for each speed are on that shaft and engage secondary gears to transmit power. Towing the gears in the rear case will be turning, and also the main shaft, approx 8 ball bearings will be turning with out any lubrication. You will screw it up. Same reason you do not tow an automatic trans. lots of parts rotating with out any lube. |
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Wayne H
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« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2013, 05:05:41 AM » |
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Thanks for all the words of wisdom...I appreciate all the advice...
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