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« on: August 13, 2013, 05:41:30 PM » |
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Ive done the rear end maintenance a few times already but....in the process of doing it again. I put the drive shaft in the pumpkin, mount the pumpkin nuts finger tight at most, put the rear wheel into the pumpkin, put axle through but...at this point, should I expect the rear wheel to turn freely or no since not everything is tightened up yet?
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Hook#3287
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« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2013, 05:47:27 PM » |
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You'll need to install the spacer and rear caliper, then tighten the axle nut, before the brakes will be set in the correct position for the wheel to move freely.
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Valkpilot
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« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2013, 05:52:50 PM » |
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Ive done the rear end maintenance a few times already but....in the process of doing it again. I put the drive shaft in the pumpkin, mount the pumpkin nuts finger tight at most, put the rear wheel into the pumpkin, put axle through but...at this point, should I expect the rear wheel to turn freely or no since not everything is tightened up yet?
I wouldn't rotate the wheel with the swing arm hanging unsupported by the shocks. You won't be happy with the noise it makes and it's hard on the U-joint. |
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2013, 06:54:26 PM » |
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The wheel will turn freely if the swing arm is not level. If you have the swing arm lowered so the axle comes out UNDER the exhaust, then NO the wheel will not rotate because the u-joint is bound up
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« Last Edit: August 14, 2013, 04:58:37 AM by Chrisj CMA »
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2013, 06:55:55 PM » |
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You'll need to install the spacer and rear caliper, then tighten the axle nut, before the brakes will be set in the correct position for the wheel to move freely.
really? this makes no sense at all......... |
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Hook#3287
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« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2013, 07:35:45 PM » |
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really? this makes no sense at all........ Really back at you. Maybe I didn't explain myself enough? Or understand the question enough? My understanding was he was pushing the axle only far enough to see it, or all the way w/o the spacer and caliper bracket. Either way, the wheel wouldn't be in the position so that it would turn FREELY. By installing all the parts, TIGHTENING the axle nut and lifting the swingarm or installing the shocks (thanks Valkpilot, I missed that) then he could see if everything is right, before torquing the pumpkin nuts. |
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« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2013, 09:04:19 PM » |
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You'll need to install the spacer and rear caliper, then tighten the axle nut, before the brakes will be set in the correct position for the wheel to move freely.
really? this makes no sense at all......... Made sense to me, as we just went through the whole complete sequence just today when HOOK helped me go Darkside with a Falken 912 and provided explicit step by step instruction on each step of servicing final drive and took great care in properly servicing the splines and pinion cup. |
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RUDE DOG - Steelers
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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2013, 12:21:18 AM » |
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Thanks guys, I'll finish it up today. I figured it was just binding since yes, the swingarm is lowered.
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2013, 05:02:02 AM » |
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really? this makes no sense at all........ Really back at you. Maybe I didn't explain myself enough? Or understand the question enough? My understanding was he was pushing the axle only far enough to see it, or all the way w/o the spacer and caliper bracket. Either way, the wheel wouldn't be in the position so that it would turn FREELY. By installing all the parts, TIGHTENING the axle nut and lifting the swingarm or installing the shocks (thanks Valkpilot, I missed that) then he could see if everything is right, before torquing the pumpkin nuts. Yes, thats the part that allows the wheel to turn....LIFTING THE SWING ARM. If the swing arm is in position you can press the wheel into the final drive , hold it on by hand without the axle and it will be able to turn. If you have the axle on, brakes, spacers and all tight and right but the swing arm is lowered, the wheel will not turn. The brakes have nothing to do with it |
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Hook#3287
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« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2013, 06:15:24 PM » |
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I guess I have a different definition of turn freely. To me it means having the wheel in the riding position with everything installed and being able to spin the wheel.
On occasion, and for whatever reason, the brakes pads or caliper will not be in the correct position upon reinstallation and will drag, usually slightly, preventing the wheel from turning freely.
There have been many reasons for this to happen, i.e. new pads, caliper sticking on the caliper and/or bracket pins, or inadvertent brake pedal movement while the caliper was off.
My experience has been that if you tighten the axle nut, it brings the free floating pads or caliper into alignment after pressing the brake pedal. That was the reason for the advice of installing everything and as I already admitted, I missed the raising of the swingarm. I have never attempted to turn the wheel when the swingarm was lowered.
I also have never had the reason to install the wheel, and while holding it in place, turn it. Maybe I'll give it a try next time I have a wheel off, but I don't see the need. What would you be checking? Wouldn't everything be all set if you've got the pumpkin installed and the nuts hand tight?
Your results/process may be different.
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RUDE DOG - Steelers
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« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2013, 08:42:45 PM » |
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All is good. Tightened everything up and back on the road.
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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2013, 04:16:50 AM » |
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All is good. Tightened everything up and back on the road.
Right ON!!! Keep the rubber down Dog! Jabba |
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