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« on: August 28, 2013, 02:28:05 AM » |
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On a Goldwing forum, I saw a mention of using the Honda 1" straight tire valve vs the 90 degree ones. The guy mentioned the straight valve is the industry standard...
Obviously it would be harder to get a hose on it but has anyone used a straight valve and how hard was it to air up and check pressure?
My bike still has the factory original valves, and I suspect something is missing that should support the stems...they flop around...need to git r done.
I'm planning on doing the 2 pieces of wood and 8" C clamp routine to break the bead, on bike if at all possible.
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« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2013, 03:32:22 AM » |
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Do not ride that bike without the valve stem supports...you are risking a catastrophic loss of air at any time...this is a well known issue and may very well kill you.
Don't tempt fate...
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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2013, 04:40:14 AM » |
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I had a tire mounted at a local shop and I supplied the mechanic with 90° metal stems. He claimed he couldnt get them on so he put straight ones on there. I hated them, very few air connectors would fit, it was bad
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hubcapsc
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« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2013, 04:51:04 AM » |
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When I first got my bike, I replaced the OEM stems with nice 45 degree metal ones. Very safe compared to OEM, but kind of hard to get many air hoses onto. I bet a straight one would be REAL hard to air up... Ones similar to this is what most people are going to... real durable, real safe, real easy...  -Mike |
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« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2013, 05:20:14 AM » |
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Ones similar to this is what most people are going to... real durable, real safe, real easy... -Mike  As said above don't forget the valve stem support. This kind of valve stem is available at jakewilson.com |
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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2013, 05:26:43 AM » |
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Ones similar to this is what most people are going to... real durable, real safe, real easy... -Mike As said above don't forget the valve stem support. This kind of valve stem is available at jakewilson.com Just to avoid confusion... Valve stem support is not required/used with this aftermarket 90-degree valve stem. However it is certainly is required with the OEM valve stem. |
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« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2013, 11:06:10 AM » |
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If you are still in doubt about straight valve stems go out and look at the opening where the valve stem resides on the wheel. NOW try to imagine checking the tire pressure and airing up with THAT stem. RIDE SAFE.
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hubcapsc
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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2013, 11:38:58 AM » |
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Those are supposed to be awesome, but you have to grind off the little tabs from your rims that the OEM stem holders hook on to... -Mike |
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« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2013, 01:18:36 PM » |
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I have those although I paid slightly more for them if memory serves. They do indeed require grinding off the support T, or mounting the opposite way which increases tire inflation frustration exponentially. I would do it again without hesitation. |
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« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2013, 01:47:49 PM » |
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Perhaps the more appropriate question would be, has anyone ever heard reported a problem with the all metal valves from Jake Wilson or Patchboy that would be solved by the more expensive Harley valve stems? The short answer is no. |
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« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2013, 02:08:13 PM » |
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cantom, you have mail! Check your PM's. Hay  Jimmyt |
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« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2013, 02:42:12 PM » |
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Angled Tire Valve Stems the ebay price is a deal ... I paid 35 bucks very strong stems ...  |
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« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2013, 03:33:25 PM » |
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I have those although I paid slightly more for them if memory serves. They do indeed require grinding off the support T, or mounting the opposite way which increases tire inflation frustration exponentially. I would do it again without hesitation. I have them too and they are state of the art. They lay flat on the rim and are very easy to use. Have metal caps with rubber orings as well. They are not marketed as Harley parts, but to all motorcycles. Since you will never go back to OE rubbers and elbows, cutting the elbow support Ts off the wheel is NO BIG DEAL. Leaving the elbow support Ts on and aiming them to the low side of the bike is also no big deal on the front, but a major PITA on the rear of any bagger like the IS or tourer or std with hardbags. You generally have to lay flat and crawl on your belly to check PSI or add air, or have very long arms from the rear. Yes, the cheaper patchboys have no reported failures. |
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« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2013, 04:59:41 PM » |
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I put on the ones from Jake Wilson. No modification of the rim is necessary, they tighten on the outside, The seem very high quality to me, they are $2.00. Order several to have on stock or give to your friends because shipping will be the same. No leaks or change in tire pressure since install 2 months/2000 miles ago with ride on installed also. http://www.jakewilson.com/p/52/-/343/753/-/19082/Myers-90%C2%B0-Tubeless-Chrome-Valve-Stem |
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« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2013, 05:11:35 PM » |
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cantom, you have mail! Check your PM's. Hay Jimmyt Got it...thanks brother! |
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« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2013, 05:37:47 PM » |
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I agree that the Jake Wilson $2.00 valve stem seems to be VERY good for 2.00. I was surprised by the heaviness ans seeming quality of it,,, might be the best $2.00 item I have bought in a while. Also, the nut is on the outside so it can be tightened.  As you can see, the OEM item does not have much holding it in,,,,, a bit of rubber which can get hard and snap off under some conditions.... I have seen it reported here.....  |
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« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2013, 07:11:26 PM » |
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I agree that the Jake Wilson $2.00 valve stem seems to be VERY good for 2.00. I was surprised by the heaviness ans seeming quality of it,,, might be the best $2.00 item I have bought in a while. Also, the nut is on the outside so it can be tightened. I have the Jake Wilsons also and agree that I like it better with the nut on the outside. I bought about a dozen so I can gift a pair to friends. |
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« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2013, 07:12:38 PM » |
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Here are my existing rear and front valve stems. I suspect they're both OEM originals. ?? The supports are missing... If I hadn't read a warning thread on here last week I wouldn't have known to even look closely at them. This kind of thing is truly a lifesaver.   |
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« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2013, 07:23:23 PM » |
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You're not out of the woods, until they're gone.
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« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2013, 08:46:47 PM » |
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Keep in mind that without the little plastic support that at highway speed that valve stem is probably bent all the way down to the rim by centrifugal force....while the bike is sitting still, go bend the valve stem down to the rim and see how secure it makes you feel......  |
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« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2013, 04:17:07 AM » |
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Here are my existing rear and front valve stems. I suspect they're both OEM originals. ?? The supports are missing... If I hadn't read a warning thread on here last week I wouldn't have known to even look closely at them. This kind of thing is truly a lifesaver. Get the supports put back into place. Better yet use a valve stem like the ones mentioned above as replacements. I agree that with a Myers valve you probably don't need the support but it makes me feel better knowing that it's there.  |
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« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2013, 09:54:50 AM » |
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Salty....are those the Jake Wilson stems?
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« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2013, 11:03:01 AM » |
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What size hole is in the wheeel rim?
Are frront and back the same? ???
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« Reply #24 on: August 29, 2013, 01:16:32 PM » |
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Salty....are those the Jake Wilson stems?
Not Salty, But Yes They Are. Those Are The Ones I Have. Hay Jimmyt |
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« Reply #25 on: August 29, 2013, 03:15:15 PM » |
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Salty....are those the Jake Wilson stems?
Bruce, like HH said they are Jake Wilson sold. |
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« Reply #26 on: August 29, 2013, 03:17:23 PM » |
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What size hole is in the wheeel rim?
Are frront and back the same? ???
I'm not sure of the hole size, but I just ordered std valves. The hole sizes are the same front and rear. |
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« Reply #27 on: August 29, 2013, 03:56:31 PM » |
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The blurb at HDL says this about size:
90° Chrome Metal Valve Stem Fits GL1800, GL1500, and Valkyrie (.453-.625 Rim Hole).
-Mike
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« Reply #28 on: August 29, 2013, 06:07:16 PM » |
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Just measured the hole in a rear wheel, it is .440, and the section of the rubber grommet that passes through the hole on a Myers 90 degree valve stem (from Jake Wilson) is about .465,, a tight fit which is what you want.
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