dina beads??

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do you break the tire down or put in thru valve stem?Are they worth the time and trouble to install??Is there anything that works better??thanks Guys for your advise

[Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005]

Just wave a magic wand over the tire you will get the same effect..... <<<< "in my opinion" 

[hubcapsc]

The time I used them, I put them into the valve stem through a straw. I hated
putting them in, and having them come out on the floor when I changed the
tire next, a whole bunch of real tiny hard-as-steel ceramic balls, I'd hate to get
one in my eye or mouth... I thought the wheel seemed balanced while they were in there.

I've used RideOn for the last few tires. My wheels still feel balanced, and there
the lessened chance of getting a flat on the road...

-Mike

[xman]

I put them in when the peal and stick balance weighs fell off, a few days into a new set of tires. I got the glass bead brand. Take out the valve out of the stem. The kit has a short piece of clear tubing. Fill it and blow them into the tire. You have to be careful but not to hard, with the bike on the lift, maybe 15 minutes a tire. The balance has been perfect. That was 2 years ago, almost ready for new tires.

[BradValk48237]

Skinhead put them in when I went darkside with his help.....

No external weights and it runs smooth, no wobble or vibration....

Just have to make sure the valve stem is above the 9 or 3 o'clock position when checking the air in the tire.

I will use them again.

Brad

[old2soon]

Used them in an 18 wheeler is what got me to using them in my Valkyrie and now my cage. Been using them over 2 years now and STILL liking the results.  RIDE SAFE.

[whitestroke]

Just have to make sure the valve stem is above the 9 or 3 o'clock position when checking the air in the tire.

I will use them again.

Brad

Why is that?

[BradValk48237]

If you have the valve stem at 6 o'clock there is a chance that one or more of the beads might get sucked into the valve and block/stick it open when you check the pressure.

B

[donaldcc]

If you have the valve stem at 6 o'clock there is a chance that one or more of the beads might get sucked into the valve and block/stick it open when you check the pressure.

B

  I have read about that, but have never had a problem with valve stem at 6 o'clock and have never talked to any one that did.  Anyone out there ever had this problem? 

[JimC]

I had that problem once after checking the air pressure before a ride. The pressure checked good, so I left it along and evidently when I released some of the air, one or more of the beads tried to escape and that is when it became lodged in the schrader valve.

Now when I check the air even if it is good, I shoot a slight amount of air into the schrader valve to make sure it shoots any beads away from the valve. (hope that makes sense)

I think that checking them in the 3 or 9 o'clock position would help, but blowing them back into the tire with air should do the same thing.

jim

[xman]

If you have the valve stem at 6 o'clock there is a chance that one or more of the beads might get sucked into the valve and block/stick it open when you check the pressure.

B

  I have read about that, but have never had a problem with valve stem at 6 o'clock and have never talked to any one that did.  Anyone out there ever had this problem? 

I recall hearing that. Don't know where. Forgot it and never had an issue checking the air, but when do you get that valve right on the bottom. Mine has been perfect. I will do them again.

The guys selling the glass beads I have say the ceramic beads, powder after time. Anyone open the tire after having them in there, what's it look like? 

[BIG--T]

The time I used them, I put them into the valve stem through a straw. I hated
putting them in, and having them come out on the floor when I changed the
tire next, a whole bunch of real tiny hard-as-steel ceramic balls, I'd hate to get
one in my eye or mouth... I thought the wheel seemed balanced while they were in there.

I've used RideOn for the last few tires. My wheels still feel balanced, and there
the lessened chance of getting a flat on the road...

-Mike

Mike where you get your RideOn? I may go dark side this time, dunno.

[donaldcc]

  that makes sense jimc.  I never blow air in but it seems like a good idea.  sometimes laziness prevails over good practice.

  on the other hand, I am pretty diligent about checking tires and pressure.  before any ride of length, I put bike on lift and spin tires around looking for defects, nails etc.

[wiggydotcom]

I'm a satisfied customer of the Dyna Beads. I have them in both my front tire and a rear car tire. Neither tire has any added weights whatsoever. But I do my own tires and make sure I put the light spot of the tire even with the heavy spot on my rim(which is NOT at the valve stem) before adding the beads.

When I removed my previous rear tire, the beads were still in good shape inside and I didn't really notice any powder.

I don't really have a lot of luck adding the beads through the valve stem. You can only get a small amount in before having to jostle the tire around, beat on it with a rubber mallet, blow in it with air...etc. It's MUCH easier to dump the beads in before the tire is seated against the rim surface.

[whitestroke]

Never had a problem and I always fill at 6 o'clock position.
The beads must be 3 or 4 inches away from the rim + the 90 degree valve, at the 6 o'clock position.

[MarkT]

I went to Ride-On a couple years ago on both bikes and have been amazed at how much that smoothed out the ride.  I thought I had balanced it well with weights, but apparently the wheels were off enough to provide some vibration.  Not so with the Ride-On.  Glass smooth.  Bonus, should stop any small puncture leaks in the tread area.  Not like that has been a problem, but I'll take the bonus.  Now after I mount a tire, don't bother with weights at all.  Just put in the right amount of Ride-On and I'm done.  I would use the beads if Ride-On didn't exist.

[salty1]

I've been using Dyna Beads for years, wouldn't go back to a static balance.

[hubcapsc]

Mike where you get your RideOn? I may go dark side this time, dunno.

A couple of times I got the local Victory shop to order it for me, the price was good.

More recently I've just gotten it from Amazon, I'm organized enough to mash the "send me some"
button, making two visits to the shop out on the beltway is harder  ...

I think it is 9oz on the front, 11oz on the back, make sure you have enough before you get started. I
think the size I get is 8oz bottles, so you need three bottles for both tires, with some left over for
next time.

Besides the one time I used dyna beads on the back, I always used a Marc Parnes static balancer
before... I thought it worked great, but I like the insurance against flats that RideOn gives you...

-Mike

[Skinhead]

I bought a bulk order of 5 lbs of beads from a welding supply store for $60,  The Dyna Beads place (Dynamic Balancing) buys the beads from them.  My installation technique is to mount the tire and seat both beads, then break the top bead (same side as the valve stem), push the bead down and dump the beads in then re-seat the top bead and inflate to proper pressure.  This way you don't have to worry about beads getting trapped in both beads while inflating the tire.  Putting them in through the valve stem is a PIA, but works well if you don't have the wheel off the bike.


Here is the info on where to buy in bulk:



     Re: Where to Purchase Dyna Beads In Bulk Cheap
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2009, 01:43:28 PM » Quote 

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You can get them in five pound jars here. $60 plus shipping.
Got mine!

Thanks to BonS for this find.


"The following is from an email I received from Quackenbush Co. I talked and ordered from Tom Weiss.

The beads they are buying are our QBZ-58A, which is made of zirconium silicate. ZY beads are made of yttrium stabilized zirconia, and they cost a lot more. We can offer our 0.8-1.0 mm QBZ-58A for the price of $60.00 per quart. A quart contains a little over 5 lbs. We have the beads (QZ-58A) in stock.

Quackenbush Co., Inc.
Tom Weiss
6711 Sands Road
Crystal Lake, IL 60014 (USA)
Website: www.quackco.com
Ph: 815-479-8900
Fx: 815-479-8890
----- Original Message -----
From: Bon Shaw
To: quackco@mc.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:28 AM
Subject: 0.8-1.0 ZY beads 

[BIG--T]

Mike where you get your RideOn? I may go dark side this time, dunno.

A couple of times I got the local Victory shop to order it for me, the price was good.

More recently I've just gotten it from Amazon, I'm organized enough to mash the "send me some"
button, making two visits to the shop out on the beltway is harder  ...

I think it is 9oz on the front, 11oz on the back, make sure you have enough before you get started. I
think the size I get is 8oz bottles, so you need three bottles for both tires, with some left over for
next time.

Besides the one time I used dyna beads on the back, I always used a Marc Parnes static balancer
before... I thought it worked great, but I like the insurance against flats that RideOn gives you...

-Mike

Yeah mashing the "send me some button" sure makes life easier! lol. I need  8oz for the front and 12 oz. (200) for the rear. I think they make the 8oz. bottles on purpose so I'd have to buy 3! 

I do like the idea of both sealant and balancer. I assume you bought the insurance? As much as it cost they should guarantee it and give free insurance!

[F6Dave]

When I first heard about bead balancing I thought it sounded like snake oil.  But I did some research on the net and found that some truckers had been doing this for years, often with BBs, lead shot, or even sand.

So I tried it on the very hard to balance front tire on my Interstate, leaving the weights on at first.  And damn, all the vibration was gone.  Then I removed the weights and it was still smooth at any speed.  It made me a believer!

I'm curious, has anyone in the Oil & Gas business tried using ceramic frac proppant in place of the beads?  It's common to use about a million pounds of the stuff in a single frac job, so no one would miss a few ounces.  I just looked online and it runs $400 to $700 per metric ton, with a minimum order of 100 tons.  That would balance a lot of tires!

[BIG--T]

When I first heard about bead balancing I thought it sounded like snake oil.  But I did some research on the net and found that some truckers had been doing this for years, often with BBs, lead shot, or even sand.

So I tried it on the very hard to balance front tire on my Interstate, leaving the weights on at first.  And damn, all the vibration was gone.  Then I removed the weights and it was still smooth at any speed.  It made me a believer!

I'm curious, has anyone in the Oil & Gas business tried using ceramic frac proppant in place of the beads?  It's common to use about a million pounds of the stuff in a single frac job, so no one would miss a few ounces.  I just looked online and it runs $400 to $700 per metric ton, with a minimum order of 100 tons.  That would balance a lot of tires!

So I tried it on the very hard to balance front tire on my Interstate, leaving the weights on at first.  And damn, all the vibration was gone.  Then I removed the weights and it was still smooth at any speed.  It made me a believer!



So I wonder if it will cure my Metz tire problem I posted?