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« on: July 11, 2009, 08:06:18 PM » |
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Has anyone used a small amount of acetone (.75 oz or so) per tank in their valks? I was thinking about testing this on my supercharged bike. I have talked to folks and read about how it breaks the surface tension of the fuel to allow for better vaporization. Resulting in a somewhat better fuel mileage and performance increase.
Any experimental valk riders out there that have tried this?
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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2009, 08:38:51 PM » |
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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2009, 09:09:57 PM » |
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Snopes opinion aside... I may try this at some point. I don't have 6 carbs to worry about. So rebuilding one isn't such a chore if things go the wrong way  A few before and after 1/8th mile runs should be a good indication of whether it has effected performance since I don't have a MC dyno handy where I live. |
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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2009, 09:14:38 PM » |
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acetone will eat your o rings and anything elese plastic that aint nylon
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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2009, 10:05:02 PM » |
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Less than an oz in 4gal? Still... Ill try it.
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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2009, 10:11:36 PM » |
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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2009, 08:19:47 AM » |
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Toluene is a better thing to add. Especially in performance machines.
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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2009, 11:32:16 AM » |
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...why did he ask if doesn't care what the answer is?
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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2009, 12:11:56 PM » |
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Tried it DOESN'T WORK  |
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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2009, 12:53:24 PM » |
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Has anyone used a small amount of acetone (.75 oz or so) per tank in their valks? I was thinking about testing this on my supercharged bike. I have talked to folks and read about how it breaks the surface tension of the fuel to allow for better vaporization. Resulting in a somewhat better fuel mileage and performance increase.
Any experimental valk riders out there that have tried this?
acetone has about the same BTU content as ethanol. Gasoline has the highest BTU content and is therefore the best for fuel efficiency. acetone is used in methanol/gasoline mixes to stop phase separation when water gets into the mix, which happens since the alcohol fuels tend to be hydroscopic. ethanol has less phase problems, less corrosive, and mixes better with gasoline than methanol. acetone has no other benefit being added to gasoline. |
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« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2009, 02:28:03 PM » |
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I doubt a few ounces mixed with 5 gallons of fuel,is going to eat up o rings. I use a few ounches of A1 kerosene every once in a while to keep my carbs clean.  |
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« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2009, 03:11:13 PM » |
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...why did he ask if doesn't care what the answer is?
If you look closely at my post, I was asking if any one HAD experience with it and thus a opinion of their own not quoted from another source. I really don't care about a MPG increase, though I would take it if I could get it. I just wonder if it would actually give better atomization of the fuel thus a more complete burn of your fuel. Perhaps a slightly better performance. Im just curious. I may go ahead and set up a test. Perhaps fill the bike and ride a 100 mile circuit and re-fill at the same station and then add the acetone and ride the same circuit again and re-fill at the same station and compare the mileage. Maybe do 10 1/8th mile runs without it and then do 10 runs with it and compare the average speeds, standard deviation, etc. |
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« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2009, 04:27:50 PM » |
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I've no experience with acetone in gasoline but if acetone will cause damage to o-rings and seals it doesn't matter how dilute the acetone is.
It would be fallacy to expect that a dilute solution of acetone would be harmless. It would just take a longer time to do the damage.
The acetone doesn't change with dilution. It's still acetone.
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« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2009, 11:19:04 PM » |
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acetone will eat your o rings and anything elese plastic that aint nylon
exactly. i would sugest it to a harley guy first and see what happens!! wouldn't even consider it in my bike! |
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« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2009, 12:15:01 AM » |
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If you look closely at my post, I was asking if any one HAD experience with it and thus a opinion of their own not quoted from another source. I really don't care about a MPG increase, though I would take it if I could get it. I just wonder if it would actually give better atomization of the fuel thus a more complete burn of your fuel. Perhaps a slightly better performance. [/quote] You might want to try a brown gas generator. I have not heard of installing one on a bike but I guess it could be done. Co-worker built a DIY from parts from the local big-box-hardware store and installed it in his 4x4. Said he got -some- mileage improvement, but not any performance inprovement. Search on the web for brown gas generators. More info yea/nea than you can shake a stick at. Things we tried when I was a kid: Acetone in a Vega: ate everthing plastic between the tank and the carbs. What a mess. Though we might have added a bit too much. Liquid ether in a Chevy PU. Supposed to raise octaine. Not much happened, exhaust smelled funky Old style mothballs in the same Chevy PU. clogged the filters, really funky exhaust. Again not much if any improvement. Now these were not precision tests on top running vehicles, just a bunch of farm boys trying to get their clunky cars to run faster. Had to switch to the farm truck 'cuz the Vega was out of action for awhile. Uncle was a bit tick'ed about his truck. Now the newer vehicles are supposed to have solvent resistant plastics. I for sure would not tempt fate again. It was a lot of work to get that Vega running again. Never in my Valk. Nor my Dodge for that matter. |
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« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2009, 11:20:59 AM » |
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This kinda sounds like the ole darkside discussion.
Pappy told me one time that graveyards and jails are full of people who put things in places they weren't suppose to.
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« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2009, 04:04:23 PM » |
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This kinda sounds like the ole darkside discussion.
Pappy told me one time that graveyards and jails are full of people who put things in places they weren't suppose to.
LOL, yea it is kinda like a darkside/oil thread isnt it.  It has captured a bit of my curiosity. A test may be in order, but I doubt no matter the outcome that I will start using that regularly. |
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« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2009, 07:46:03 PM » |
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;Dwhen i was a kid ,a long time ago , we would put ether in the gaz tanks ,that did the trick, more power. of course there :uglys were a few blown engines too!  |
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« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2009, 06:29:11 AM » |
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I did a really extensive test of acetone on my Nomad. About five different concentrations, several hundred miles. My results were no significant change. No damage but no improvement. I still have the spread sheet if anyone is interested.
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« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2009, 08:22:43 PM » |
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I did a really extensive test of acetone on my Nomad. About five different concentrations, several hundred miles. My results were no significant change. No damage but no improvement. I still have the spread sheet if anyone is interested.
Thanks for the info Ferris. BTW folks, this is the kind of response I was looking for.  |
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