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Marinakorp
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« on: September 27, 2013, 12:57:59 PM » |
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Help.
In Chester PA
Got gas, in gear. Tranny made a horrible noise. Like a bunch of mares in a can.
Not sure if tranny or rear spline failure.
Help!
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« Last Edit: November 07, 2013, 12:13:08 PM by Marinakorp »
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9Ball
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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2013, 01:07:36 PM » |
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what kind of help do you need? I'm across the Comm. Barry bridge in South Jersey.
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Marinakorp
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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2013, 01:16:35 PM » |
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Not sure.
My GF is picking me up. So I can get home.
I called my mechanic buddy, to see about a yank and drop off...keeps going to VMail
I think I can get this home soon...if I have to leave in parking lot, I can live with that for a few days if need be.
What could be the problem is my main concern. How do I fix? What am I looking at
Of I had to guess. Spline failure.
Not real good with tools, but understand concepts pretty well and can relay to mechanic what to look for.
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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2013, 01:28:45 PM » |
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If your using your phone start here http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,53895.0.htmlWhen your get home do a search and there's a novel full of pinion cup failures and service post. search is your friend. |
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Patrick
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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2013, 02:23:19 PM » |
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These transmitters are pretty bullet-proof. It sounds as if you have a u-joint or drive shaft/cup failure. Not too bad a job. You'll probably need to get the bike home or to your buddy.
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pancho
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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2013, 05:36:39 PM » |
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My first concern would certainly be to get the bike transported to a safe place.
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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2013, 05:45:05 PM » |
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My first concern would certainly be to get the bike transported to a safe place.
Yes even if you have to pay big $ for towing the peace of mind would be worth it to me! |
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« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2013, 01:04:05 AM » |
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Likely drive shaft/pinion cup failure. Only a couple hundred bucks to fix.
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Daniel Meyer
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« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2013, 04:07:31 AM » |
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I'm with the others...pinion cup.
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Marinakorp
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« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2013, 04:54:23 AM » |
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Thanks.
Guy picking it up this morning with a flat bed.
240.00 delivered.
My mechanic....had a hip replacement surgery yesterday. So going to be a month or so before can be addressed.
Time to save up for the fix.
Thanks for everyone's support.
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« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2013, 07:49:32 AM » |
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Thanks.
Guy picking it up this morning with a flat bed.
240.00 delivered.
My mechanic....had a hip replacement surgery yesterday. So going to be a month or so before can be addressed.
Time to save up for the fix.
Thanks for everyone's support.
Driveshaft and pinion cup are the parts you're likely to need. Well under $200...it's a pretty easy fix...maybe an hour labor over a rear tire change... |
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« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2013, 05:42:45 PM » |
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Does it sound like the bike in the video linked to here?: http://vimeo.com/m/74061559If so, that bike had a failure of the splines connecting the drive shaft to the pinion cup. |
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« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2013, 09:22:20 PM » |
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Man that video is hard to watch. Did he really have to go through the gears a second time? Ouch. I think if mine sounded like that I would stop after second gear.....Ok, maybe third.  |
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Marinakorp
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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2013, 06:46:03 AM » |
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Does it sound like the bike in the video linked to here?: http://vimeo.com/m/74061559If so, that bike had a failure of the splines connecting the drive shaft to the pinion cup. Mine is a little more clank clank... but yes similar enough |
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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2013, 10:31:47 AM » |
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My bet is on the U-joint.
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Marinakorp
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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2013, 10:39:47 AM » |
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What does the U joint cost to fix? is that harder? / more expensive?
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« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2013, 10:45:17 AM » |
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Pretty easy. Less than $150 in parts, took me an hour and a half but some do it faster, I'm sure.
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pancho
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« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2013, 04:15:12 PM » |
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Man that video is hard to watch. Did he really have to go through the gears a second time? Ouch. I think if mine sounded like that I would stop after second gear.....Ok, maybe third. I'm agree,, there is a time to stop and address a problem,, he didn't know what he was dealing with. I have seen too many people playing with a damaged machine only to cause a catastrophic failure when a simple repair was all that was needed at first. |
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Marinakorp
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« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2013, 05:12:09 PM » |
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Ok.
Pinion cup failure.
Seal was shot.
What part do I need to order to fix this?
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« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2013, 05:35:01 PM » |
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This is where I would start, about $100 plus shipping at partzilla
Honda 40201-MZ0-A00 SHAFT, PROPELLER
Honda 40221-MB0-000 RING, STOPPER
Honda 41410-MN5-000 JOINT, PINION (pinion cup)
Honda 91261-ME9-005 OIL SEAL (27X43X7)
Probably a good idea to remove the u-joint for inspection now while it's this far apart. I've not had to remove a pinion cup yet so I don't know if this is everything.
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Marinakorp
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« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2013, 12:12:46 PM » |
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Thanks to all for your help, and offer of assistance.
WHen I had "Belle" towed to my mechanics house (retired and works on a handful of friends bikes) he had quite lieterally just had his hip replaced that morning. I was expecting it to take a month or more for recovery... then a month or more to get the strength to work on Belle.
Well, two weeks in to recovery... he had Belle all apart, and diagnosed the Axle / Pinion cup as the culprit.
As of this week, Belle was back, fixed, new shoes, new brakes, polished, fluids changed... and for a decent price I might add. One I was willing to pay, and did not break the bank. I gave him a few bucks extra and said take the wife out to a good dinner (there was enough for a very good dinner for two at a nice place).
With the help of this board, and a fried with a wrench (and a new hip) we were able to get he all back together and on the road. For the record, he was the one that convinced me to go for a Valkyrie in stead of grafting larger carbs and a Vmax pumpkin on to my 96 Yamaha Royal Star...
HE is looking for a bike to trike... he has asked me more questions about the valk thaan I can enoumerate here... looks like we might have another convert from the land of V twins...
THanks !
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« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2013, 05:22:03 PM » |
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Congratulation, there are still a few good mechanics left.
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