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« on: October 20, 2013, 07:00:41 AM » |
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How hard is it to lay a Valkyrie on it's side to change rear tire?
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YoungPUP
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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2013, 07:10:18 AM » |
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Seeing that the Valk has a standard swingarm (not a single sided one like the newer wings) I'd say it'd be more of a PITA than its worth. Not even considering the fact of damage to paint etc. Impossible no. Worth the hassle and risk, no way.
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2013, 08:19:06 AM » |
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Pup's right. The axle has to be pushed out. Can't do that on it's side.
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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2013, 10:07:29 AM » |
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Get a M/C lift and purchase/build the adapter and do it correctly. While it's on the lift there are a host of other systems you need pay attention to while it's on the lift. Pup is correctamumdo.  RIDE SAFE. |
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gordonv
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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2013, 12:35:35 PM » |
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Now, to answer your question. Easy to lay the bike over, onto the crash bar and tires. My IS fell what feels like 2" from the point of lean where you know it will fall. Then to lift it back up, but practice first. I read and saw the videos on how to do it, but when it fell over after I first got the bike (hard turn, down hill, over a speed bump, at low speed and with the co-pilot on the back), I couldn't get it back up. Got help from a passing motorist. http://www.pinkribbonrides.com/dropped.html& http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,15021.msg126332.html#msg126332 http://f6rider.com/Articles/Articles2004/HowToRightaDumpedValk.htmI then tried doing it again, but in a controlled environment. Laid some carpet under the guards, and leaned the bike over. Had 2 buddys close by to help lift if I couldn't. 2nd try, made it up. Easier after that, because I new the technech and that I could really do it. Now, the second part, about removing the tire. I think you would need to flip the bike over even more, onto it's side, to get the wheel off the ground. Would it be easy, and to work on the bike on it's side, and like mentioned, would the axle come out far enough? But in an emergency, with no other choice? I think the risk of damage to the bike and the cost to repair, would be greater than the cost to have it towed. Also just thought about all the liquids in the bike that might spill when leaned over that far. I wouldn't do it. |
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2013, 03:21:45 PM » |
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To begin with, the answer to your question is NO as already stated. Second, no Valkyrie needs to be jacked nearly 2' in the air to change out the rear tire. If interested in how, let me know and I'll tell you how to do it with the rear wheel raised only a couple inches off the floor. You need a lift and a floor jack or similar, nothing more.
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2013, 04:14:56 PM » |
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Lying bike over to change rear tire is more of an emergency type operation than routine maintenance (use a jack), and makes a big difference if you have a tourer or IS with the rear guards to rest the bike on (along with the engine guards).
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2013, 05:00:41 PM » |
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How hard is it to lay a Valkyrie on it's side to change rear tire?
This is a joke, right.......I certainly hope so! If not, heres my reply DONT! The 1800 Gold Wing can be done that way because it has a totally different drive system. Forget about that procedure applying to a Valkyrie. You must not have ever removed the rear wheel on your Valkyrie yet. |
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« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2013, 05:36:41 AM » |
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To begin with, the answer to your question is NO as already stated. Second, no Valkyrie needs to be jacked nearly 2' in the air to change out the rear tire. If interested in how, let me know and I'll tell you how to do it with the rear wheel raised only a couple inches off the floor. You need a lift and a floor jack or similar, nothing more.
I don't know why folks don't just take the rear half of the fender off on any method used to remove tire. It makes it so much easier. Hoser  |
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2013, 08:22:30 AM » |
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To begin with, the answer to your question is NO as already stated. Second, no Valkyrie needs to be jacked nearly 2' in the air to change out the rear tire. If interested in how, let me know and I'll tell you how to do it with the rear wheel raised only a couple inches off the floor. You need a lift and a floor jack or similar, nothing more.
I don't know why folks don't just take the rear half of the fender off on any method used to remove tire. It makes it so much easier. Hoser Hoser, that's what I'm talking about and do it every time. Pull the bags and remove the shocks, use a jack to raise/lower the swingarm so the axle clears the right exhaust. Pull the axle and the wheel rolls out with almost no lifting. When reinstalling I use a 1x3 about 30" long on top of a chunk of 2x4. Just roll the wheel back in place, have the axle part way in the final, lift the wheel a couple inches with the 1x3 and slip the axle through part way....helps line up the splines and you can hold the 1x3 down with your knee, leaving both hands free. When the splines engage I run the axle the rest of the way in. Even a large car tire such as I have will only take a few minutes out/in. I once saw a Gold Wing go over when jacked nearly 2' in the air and that scared me. My first time to service the rear end about ten years ago was enough to convince me I wanted a safer method. Even tied down, that sucker wasn't as solid as I wanted so I brought it back down and then used a method I noticed Daniel Myers also used to changed a tire in the parking lot. Although I have a centerstand, I've used the same method as I described above when changing out tires on other bikes...just use the lift to get the bike upright. But the rear wheel only needs to be a couple inches off the ground with a separate jack under the swingarm. Definitely not 20" up in the air. |
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« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2013, 08:35:47 AM » |
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I hope no one asks how to drain the gas tank..... |
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« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2013, 09:14:07 AM » |
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The reason I don't just take the rear fender off is that I have a trailer hitch and it is very difficult to remove and replace. When I did my standard, I took off the fender and it does work great, but certain options make raising the bike and coming out the bottom easier.
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9Ball
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« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2013, 10:17:55 AM » |
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The reason I don't just take the rear fender off is that I have a trailer hitch and it is very difficult to remove and replace. When I did my standard, I took off the fender and it does work great, but certain options make raising the bike and coming out the bottom easier.
Is there a way to make your hitch assembly a "quick release" setup like the old Rattlebars bag drop kit? Just a thought. |
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« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2013, 02:35:45 AM » |
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To begin with, the answer to your question is NO as already stated. Second, no Valkyrie needs to be jacked nearly 2' in the air to change out the rear tire. If interested in how, let me know and I'll tell you how to do it with the rear wheel raised only a couple inches off the floor. You need a lift and a floor jack or similar, nothing more.
I don't know why folks don't just take the rear half of the fender off on any method used to remove tire. It makes it so much easier. Hoser i just turn mine upsidedown just like we used to do with the 20 in bmx bikes  |
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