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« on: November 03, 2013, 10:02:56 AM » |
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getting ready to put her away for the winter..was wondering if it would be better to put 2 cycle oil in the cylinders because it will burn off better or just use reg. oil
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Patrick
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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2013, 10:58:42 AM » |
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Shouldn't make a difference.
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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2013, 05:49:37 AM » |
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If it is just for the winter, fill up the tank and add half a can of Seafoam and run it long enough to make sure the fuel with Seafoam made it to the carbs. Shut it down, put it on a batter tender for the winter and leave it at that. I assume it's just for a short 4 month hibernation....
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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2013, 06:47:18 PM » |
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Motorcycling is not, of itself, inherently dangerous. It is however, extremely unforgiving of: inattention, ignorance, incompetence or stupidity.
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2013, 02:52:48 AM » |
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Now this is getting interesting........
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« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2013, 08:30:17 AM » |
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Just put my Tourer to sleep for our long winter. Added the correct amount of Stabil after running a tank of Stabil treated gas through the carbs. Have done this procedure for at least 15 years maybe longer in a few different brands of motorcycles. Not one problem the following spring.
Good luck with your Seafoam.
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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2013, 08:36:29 AM » |
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Hmmm, and I thought the poster just asked about adding oil to the cylinders for storage. I must have trouble comprehending what I read. 
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« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2013, 10:22:00 AM » |
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Hmmm, and I thought the poster just asked about adding oil to the cylinders for storage. I must have trouble comprehending what I read.  If you read between the lines, people are saying they have had no ill effects of winter storage if they do not treat the cylinders, but only the fuel system.
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« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2013, 11:25:10 AM » |
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Hmmm, and I thought the poster just asked about adding oil to the cylinders for storage. I must have trouble comprehending what I read.  If you read between the lines, people are saying they have had no ill effects of winter storage if they do not treat the cylinders, but only the fuel system. OK. I've been of criticized of poor reading comprehension skills before. I didn't see scarylarry mention anything about fuel. I guess I need to look at it again. 
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« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2013, 04:04:34 PM » |
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Hmmm, and I thought the poster just asked about adding oil to the cylinders for storage. I must have trouble comprehending what I read.  The OP preceded the oil question with a comment about putting his bike away for the winter. Which is what my focus was on, NOT the oil in the cylinders. My initial reply was intended to have the OP forgo the oil in the cylinders and just use Seafoam in his fuel system and use a battery tender and let it go at that. No need for oil in the cylinders..... even tho I did not specifically state to avoid it. There was a post by someone else, between my two earlier posts, who apparently deleted it, regarding the contents of Seafoam, containing alcohol/ethanol and thereby attracting water to the fuel system and Stabil was better and that it did not contain that.... yada yada yada... I raised the BS flag, without arguing the MSDS contents of each of those items, and suggested the OP do his own research on Seafoam vs Stabil and make up his own mind. Also stated that gas has ethanol already in it... unless specifically bought without.... which was a concern addressed about the Seafoam by the now absent poster. Any questions?
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« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2013, 03:56:51 AM » |
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Hmmm, and I thought the poster just asked about adding oil to the cylinders for storage. I must have trouble comprehending what I read.  The OP preceded the oil question with a comment about putting his bike away for the winter. Which is what my focus was on, NOT the oil in the cylinders. My initial reply was intended to have the OP forgo the oil in the cylinders and just use Seafoam in his fuel system and use a battery tender and let it go at that. No need for oil in the cylinders..... even tho I did not specifically state to avoid it. There was a post by someone else, between my two earlier posts, who apparently deleted it, regarding the contents of Seafoam, containing alcohol/ethanol and thereby attracting water to the fuel system and Stabil was better and that it did not contain that.... yada yada yada... I raised the BS flag, without arguing the MSDS contents of each of those items, and suggested the OP do his own research on Seafoam vs Stabil and make up his own mind. Also stated that gas has ethanol already in it... unless specifically bought without.... which was a concern addressed about the Seafoam by the now absent poster. Any questions? Questions ? Me ? Nope. I just answer questions and try not to expand. I've been doing this work for a living for 5 decades. If the man wants to oil his cylinders, he can, its his bike, won't hurt it.
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« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2013, 08:06:32 AM » |
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Hmmm, and I thought the poster just asked about adding oil to the cylinders for storage. I must have trouble comprehending what I read.  The OP preceded the oil question with a comment about putting his bike away for the winter. Which is what my focus was on, NOT the oil in the cylinders. My initial reply was intended to have the OP forgo the oil in the cylinders and just use Seafoam in his fuel system and use a battery tender and let it go at that. No need for oil in the cylinders..... even tho I did not specifically state to avoid it. There was a post by someone else, between my two earlier posts, who apparently deleted it, regarding the contents of Seafoam, containing alcohol/ethanol and thereby attracting water to the fuel system and Stabil was better and that it did not contain that.... yada yada yada... I raised the BS flag, without arguing the MSDS contents of each of those items, and suggested the OP do his own research on Seafoam vs Stabil and make up his own mind. Also stated that gas has ethanol already in it... unless specifically bought without.... which was a concern addressed about the Seafoam by the now absent poster. Any questions? Questions ? Me ? Nope. I just answer questions and try not to expand. I've been doing this work for a living for 5 decades. If the man wants to oil his cylinders, he can, its his bike, won't hurt it. Good... was just trying to help you out with the comprehension problem you said you have. Agree, if he wants to oil his cylinders it won't hurt, but its really not required and could very well cause additional issues with accidental plug cross thread or something else that may not have happened had he left the plugs alone. Contrary to your "shouldn't make a difference" Trying to fix something that isn't broke has been known to cause other issues. Congrats on making it 5 decades doing what you do for a living.... whatever that might be.
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« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2013, 06:52:34 PM » |
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It's a good idea to oil 2 stroke cylinders Boat motors with oil, as they have water cooling in the exhaust system. They sell a fogging oil for this purpose at marine stores. It's not needed for 1 winters storage in a 4 stroke.
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« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2013, 09:25:10 AM » |
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ya ever notice how some have to make a simple question in a post into a pi$$ing contest? answer the post, it ain't about you or him and how you or he can/can't comprehend
hope the guy comes back
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take personal responsibility and keep your word
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« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2013, 09:35:35 AM » |
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I too think the extraneous stuff may have chased him away. If so, thats too bad, stuff like that shouldn't happen.
If I'm part of this problem, sorry, didn't mean to be. When I mentioned a comprehension problem, I meant it 'tongue in cheek'. I have no problem understanding what I read. I should know better than to respond to some posts, I'm working harder on that that. I'm responding less than I used to.
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« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2013, 01:25:25 PM » |
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