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Pronunciation of "Valkyrie"

Started by Farther, Sat 18, Jul 2009, 20:36:45

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Farther

I hate to be anal about this but I have heard Valkyrie pronounced a couple of different way.  The wrong way being the film trailer for the Tom Cruise movie by the same name.  My Norwegian mother taught me how to pronounce Valkyrie when she entertained me with Viking mythology.  So, click on the link to hear my, and my dear departed mother's, prefered pronunciation of Valkyrie.  http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?valkyr03.wav=Valkyrie
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"Val ka ree" here !  But then again I have Pe-can trees not PEE-kan!    :crazy2:

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Val⋅kyr⋅ie

Spelled Pronunciation [val-keer-ee, -kahy-ree, vahl-, val-kuh-ree]

Gilligan

Per AskOxford.com
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/valkyrie?view=uk

Per Merriam-Webster
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Valkyrie

I checked a couple of others, and there are at least 3 pronunciations.  Even Professor Harold Hill couldn't keep up with "a correct" pronunciation on this one.  ;)
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 A BADASS FLAT 6 is one way to say it, my pronunciation is without the"y"   :crazy2:

Ghillie

pronounced: big ur bad ur fast ur
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Poe - tay - toe

Poe - tah - toe

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The Russian math professor at TAM-CC pronounces it "wall-KEER-ee


Big IV

I say "vahl-kuh-ree" most of the time.

Pronunciations, like spellings to some extent, are dependent on the structure in which you are operating. Jacque Saussare taught us that (seconded by Roland Barthes). But regional dialects are fun!
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CISE

I promounce it as "STRESS RELIEF"

But then again, I am not from around here

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As I was unloading a Canadian got out of a van a few parking spaces down.
he said, "Nice bike."
"Thanks."
he asked, "Is that Valkyrie from the German?"
"Nope, It's from the Japanese Honda..." he looked at me oddly, before I smiled and said, "yeah it's named after the Norse mythology, but it's name is slapped on a Honda motorcycle, oddly enough built in America."
He smiled and complimented me again on having a nice bike as he strode away chuckling like what I had said was actually funny.
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Chrisj CMA

Anything (almost) will do except this........a guy came up to me at a bike nite and said "Wow I always did like those Valeries"  I tried to pretend I didnt hear him, but he was too close so I smiled and just said "yeah."

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Language is always changing, no matter what us pedants would prefer, and once something becomes accepted usage...well, it's accepted usage and becomes "correct".

Thus "Val KEE ree" may be Norwegian for a spirit who is a "chooser of the dead", but an American motorcycle with a flat six is a "VAL ker ree". It's motorcycle vernacular, and in that context is correct usage.  :cooldude:

Quote from: Farther on Sat 18, Jul 2009, 20:36:45
I hate to be anal about this but I have heard Valkyrie pronounced a couple of different way.  The wrong way being the film trailer for the Tom Cruise movie by the same name.  My Norwegian mother taught me how to pronounce Valkyrie when she entertained me with Viking mythology.  So, click on the link to hear my, and my dear departed mother's, prefered pronunciation of Valkyrie.  http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?valkyr03.wav=Valkyrie

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QuoteThus one takes into account that the absolute alterity of writing might nevertheless affect living speech, from the outside, within its inside: alter [for the worse].  Even as it has an independent history, as we have seen, and in spite of the inequalities of development, the play of structural correlations, writing makrs the history of speech.  Althought iw si born out of "needs of a different kind" and "according to circumstances entirely independent of the duration of the people," although these needs might "never have occured," the irruption of this absolute contingencey determined teh interior of an essential history and affected the interior unity of a life, literally infected it.  ...  ("Writing, which woudl seem to crystallize language, is precisely what alters it; it changes not the words but the spirit of language...")...
Of Grammatology Derrida

I think this is one of my favorite quotes from Derrida. Language is not statitc, it is not a constant, and despite the fact that we tend to hope that writing will preserve and "crystalize" language into something that we can make an absolute, in fact language continues to change because of writing.

Language (written or oral) is situated in a specific system, which tends to be fixed in a time and a place. No absolutes hold absolutely. Simple proof: silent letters. No letters in the English language were silent on their words originally, but some (gnat, knife) have become silent over the years, muted because language has merged dialects over place and time, and thus even writing cannot keep the pronunciation from changing (or change it back).
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