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dubsider
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« on: November 29, 2013, 05:18:06 AM »

I want to add the Pingel to replace the OEM..
I have a few questions:
- Is it recommended? or required? to add the Electric Cut off
- does the Electric Cut off double as a fuel filter as well?
- if not, does the group recommend a filter? 
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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2013, 07:50:01 AM »

In order:
1. No, not required. If you install a manual Pingel, you have to remember to shut it off after each ride. My habits aren't that set, so I installed the DanMarc shut off as a back-up.

2. No

3. An inline filter would only be needed if you don't use the Pingel "in tank" screen that's similar to the OEM unit. I extended the Pingel pickup tube length to match the OEM petcock, thereby giving me the same reserve. With that change, the Pingel screen no longer fit so I had to use an inline filter.

Hope this helps a bit.  cooldude
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« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2013, 07:52:47 AM »

Yep, what John said. Some have had issues with in-line filters, don't know why. I run one with no problems.
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« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2013, 08:05:09 AM »

Same here.
Running a Pingle, a Golan in line filter and electric fuel shut off with no problem.

Followed John's suggestions and all is good
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« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2013, 01:21:34 PM »



The problem most are having with in-line filters, the output nozzle is not lower than the input.

Also from that output tube, the line has to be on a gradual downhill slant till it hits the carb fuel rail.

Anytime any outlet is uphill from the input, you will have trouble.    I tried a couple of filters and really never had a good way of hiding the filter, so, I just eliminated my after market in-line filter.

I have a manual Pingel with the Dan Marc electric shutoff.    Have had it for quite sometime and to date, NO problems.    I hated it when we had to turn off the gas on our CHP motors.   tickedoff tickedoff   When I 1st got my Valkyrie, I was still in the habit of turning the fuel off.    coolsmiley

Got out of the habit, and when I 1st heard of Hydro Lock it was on a buddy of mine's YamaHopper.    Three days later we were looking for petcocks to change them both out.   Talked to some Triumph owners online and they all recommended Pingle & Dan Marc shutoff.    So ordered one for a Honda and one for a YamaHopper and we neither one looked back.
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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2013, 07:38:16 AM »

I have been searching all the Dan Marc threads..
Please recommend what I should use to connect the Dan Marc to the fuel lines.. It looks like the Dan Marc is threaded... Does something go between the fuel line and the Dan Marc?? 
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2013, 08:29:07 AM »

http://www.bikebandit.com/golan-peak-flow-fuel-filter
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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2013, 01:51:05 PM »

You want a barb fitting, that's what I call them.  One end will screw into the Dan Marc and the hose will slide over the barb end.

I have forgotten what the fitting size is now, but it should tell ya in the Dan Marc advertisement.

When ya put  this nipple in the Dan Marc, use some teflon pipe tape.   Be sure and wind it on the threads the same way it will screw into the Dan Marc or you will have tape all over God's Green Earth.

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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2013, 04:40:20 PM »

Threads are either 1/8 or 1/4", hose barb is 5/16"
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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2013, 04:43:52 PM »

Threads are either 1/8 or 1/4", hose barb is 5/16"

I'm jogging my memory now, but I think my fitting was 1/4".
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« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2013, 04:55:34 PM »


Here is a link posted by MarkT from HorseApple Ranch.

He has the same setup as I do, works like a champ.

I should also add, I used his writeup for a pattern to install mine in MGM.

http://www.horseapple.com/Valkyrie/Tech_Tips/Fuel_Shutoff/fuel_shutoff.html
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« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2013, 06:22:25 AM »

I want to add the Pingel to replace the OEM..
I have a few questions:
- Is it recommended? or required? to add the Electric Cut off
- does the Electric Cut off double as a fuel filter as well?
- if not, does the group recommend a filter? 
I didnt add one to mine and all has been well for 5+ yrs. Mine has been left on before with no trouble.

I also run a inline filter. Its a auto zone brand.

Remember the pingel is a tad smaller then your oem fuel line.
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« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2013, 10:08:29 AM »

What is the model # of the vacuum Pingle?
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« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2013, 10:32:53 AM »

I can't recall ever reading any glowing comments about the vacuum Pingle, if that's what you may be considering.

And the same problems noted with the OEM are certainly possible with the vacuum Pingle since they both operate in the same way.

Plus with the OEM you are able to keep the stock knob and operation.

So if vacuum is what you want, do as Chris posted and stay with the stock OEM.

If you do that, consider adding a small plenum in the vacuum circuit which would mitigate the pulsations and probably add a lot of life to the operation of the petcock.

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« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2013, 12:03:27 PM »

I can't recall ever reading any glowing comments about the vacuum Pingle, if that's what you may be considering.

And the same problems noted with the OEM are certainly possible with the vacuum Pingle since they both operate in the same way.

Plus with the OEM you are able to keep the stock knob and operation.

So if vacuum is what you want, do as Chris posted and stay with the stock OEM.

If you do that, consider adding a small plenum in the vacuum circuit which would mitigate the pulsations and probably add a lot of life to the operation of the petcock.

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Mr. D, what type of plenum do you speak of ? I think that would be a good addition and would welcome more information.
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« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2013, 12:41:36 PM »

Mr. D, what type of plenum do you speak of ? I think that would be a good addition and would welcome more information.
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Just a plastic ' T ' and a little vacuum hose will do. Just connect to more than a single intake.
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« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2013, 06:12:12 AM »

Mr. D, what type of plenum do you speak of ? I think that would be a good addition and would welcome more information.
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Just a plastic ' T ' and a little vacuum hose will do. Just connect to more than a single intake.
Thanks Patrick for the info. I'll give that a try.
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