another fearful non CT user

[HayHauler]

This tire didn't fail while out on the road, I noticed it in the garage.  This is a GY Triple Tread that has about 14.5k miles on it.  It was sitting in the dealership for 4 months on the sidestand while the paint was getting done.  This crack went about 1/3 of the way around the tire.  
I don't know if sitting for an extended length of time on the sidestand caused this crack, or if it was this way when I dropped it off, but I didn't want to ride it 45 miles home, so I swapped it out with my spare rim with the MT tire on it.  I rode this tire from Houston, through Colorado, up through South Dakota, and over to IZ in Michigan.  I rode it home and around town for a while until I could schedule the paint work at the dealership.

I replaced it with a Falken Ziex 512 in 205/65/16 size and never looked back.




Hay  
Jimmyt

[DarkSideR]

My best reply to CT/Dardside questions/rants;

"Whom ever designed the tire had some sort of vehicle in mind, but anyone can clearly see it is now on the back of a motorcycle."

[Rio Wil]

HayHauler......out of curiosity, what tire pressure did you run this tire at....?

[Jess from VA]

Hay, that is the only defect in any GATT I've ever seen or read about. 

That said, I would not ride on it either. 

Both my interstates have them, and are out on the sidestands not getting much riding time in Winter.

I always look my tires over..... it's only the single biggest safety issue there is on any motorcycle.

[PAVALKER]

Wow... and it was still holding air?  How old is the tire?  What was the born on date?


In any event.... I would have to provide that to Goodyear for them to evaluate, and not let them even know what vehicle it came off of.  Obviously a defect of the tire and not a vehicle IMO.

[HayHauler]

The tire was 18 months old with the 14.5k on it.  It rode the Dragon the first year then the eound about trip to MI.  I don't know what the born on date was on it. 
I caught it before bringing it home from the dealer where I had it painted.  I had them swap back to my spare MT and rode her home. 
Just be sure and check your tires before every ride.  You just might find something like I did. 

I don't run my tires down that far anymore.  I have 3 of the Falkens in the garage and will change them out every year, regardless of the miles.  Should be somewhere around 15-20k this year. 

I ran 40-42 lbs. in it all the time. 

Ride safe my brethren. 

Hay
Jimmyt

[Rio Wil]

Its probably just the photo, but the tread appears to be scalloped and the sipes seem to be feathered a bit, suggesting it has been run at low pressure for an extended time....

The Falken 512 was my first c/t and put 30K on it, next was a Pirelli P4 that ran  60K , then another P4 that picked up a big ass puncture at 25K and its replacement is another P4 with only 3K on it now.....

Ride safe......

[Rio Wil]

Did a lil lookin at this subject,,       n' found the quote below, outta da thread,,,,( Link, below dat...)  

Is this guy looney,, errr does he have a valid,, point?  ???

Post comes offa page 3,,, bout 1/2 way down....

Actually he has a valid point.  The rear tire designed for a motorcycle has more tread on it than a front designed m/c tire.  When using a rear tire on the front, I  noticed a lot more side slip in the turns (sloppy) than with the normal m/c tire. I wanted more rubber on the road up front for a trip to Alaska, we ran about 500 miles of gravel and mud roads so I thought a bit of additional rubber would be an asset in puncture resistance. The sloppyness kept disappearing as the tire tread wore off but after  about 20K miles there was enough wear on the center and both sides to cause pretty good flat spots. You could feel the tire roll over onto the flat spots and it began to be unfun to drive, so I replaced it at 28K....it was fairly well used up, but I will not be going darkside again on the front as I usually get about 14-16K on a regular front.......which is OK enough for a front. So for the 28K miles this tire lasted, I was double darkside...






Now ....... this may shock some of you, as it goes against most of what you've been hearing/reading about from those who have tried a car tire on a 1500, but, I, myself, will be switching back to using my trusted Dunlop E3s, front and rear. I've found that when running Double Darkside, the bike didn't handle as well when ridden aggressively, as it does with the Es front and rear. At times, the handling was downright .... 'sloppy'!

http://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/5-general-motorcycle-discussion-forum/378140-pictures-austone-taxi-tire-valkyrie-3.html


 

[Ricky-D]

I don't know about that but it looks to me also that the tread is breaking right at the line where the steel belt edge is, or pretty close anyway.

That would make me think a poor quality lamination. A manufacturing weakness.

The radial belts are the only thing holding the tire together. And inflated (I guess).

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[lacon]

O.K, say I'm running a plugged CT.  What are my chances?

[98pacecar]

O.K, say I'm running a plugged CT.  What are my chances?

Chances,,, of what??       ???   survival???   

[old2soon]

O.K, say I'm running a plugged CT.  What are my chances?

   Chances of WHAT?? zackly is ya askin bout?? RIDE SAFE.

[HayHauler]

O.K, say I'm running a plugged CT.  What are my chances?

If it is a good plug job, no worries.  Check the pressure and if it is leaking, hit it with some soapy water and find out where.
Other than that, ride it.

Hay 
Jimmyt

[HayHauler]

I don't know about that but it looks to me also that the tread is breaking right at the line where the steel belt edge is, or pretty close anyway.

That would make me think a poor quality lamination. A manufacturing weakness.

The radial belts are the only thing holding the tire together. And inflated (I guess).

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I agree Ricky.  It looks like it split where the steel belts end and the sidewall starts.  It held air just fine, I just didn't feel like taking a chance on it for the 40-45 mile ride home...
I guess I should have cut it up to find out what was going on with it... 

Hay 
Jimmyt

[2qmedic]

HayHauler ...your are exactly right by not riding on that tire!

Pluged MC tires are just fine if done properly. A friend of mine who was a motor cop had riden on many plugged MC tires. Several years ago, I has just replaced a rear MC tire (less than 1,000 miles on it) and picked up a nail. Took it and had it plugged. Wore that tire out!

 

[lacon]

Actually, I was joking about the plugged CT.  I know some fear each, so just wondering how someone who feared both would predict my odds of survival with the combination.
I will be replacing a plugged Avon that's well into the wear bars with a Taxi tire within the next month or so.  Will be my first CT.

[old2soon]

Actually, I was joking about the plugged CT.  I know some fear each, so just wondering how someone who feared both would predict my odds of survival with the combination.
I will be replacing a plugged Avon that's well into the wear bars with a Taxi tire within the next month or so.  Will be my first CT.

    Iffin yer tween lost and found and B F E no bars on da cell phone I'm thinkin a plugged rear and/or front tire to get to civilization-well hell man-we do after all ride motorcycles!! The plugged rear don't bother me that much. The front would have to make a determination-distance from lacasa how much depth left in da wallet how much is the stealer tryin to rip me off. Lotsa variables that only YOU can answer. RIDE SAFE.

[alph]

I tried the "car tire" thing once.  did it for about 4000 miles, thought I'd "get use to it" and never did.  couldn't stand the squishy feeling I'd get while cornering or the wiggly ass end while going over the cracks on a bridge at 70mph. 

i'll never try a car tire again, I can afford motorcycle tires, and the day I can't afford to replace my worn out motorcycle tire with another motorcycle tire is the day I sell my cycle. 

I like the stiff feel of a cycle tire, I like the feel of control I have when cornering, I like feeling "safe" on my cycle, and I never felt "safe" while on a car tire.