Tropic traveler
Member
Posts: 3117
Livin' the Valk, er, F6B life in Central Florida.
Silver Springs, Florida
|
 |
« on: February 02, 2014, 01:00:47 PM » |
|
Still no luck getting Kim's Valkyrie to start, getting frustrated as I hate electrical problems.  1998 Valkyrie, 33,000 miles. Indoor stored. Went to start it & heard click under RH cover then nothing. Had this same problem 3 months ago & a new starter relay fixed it. Not this time. From my earlier post I have been advised to clean the starter button, just did it even though the contacts were clean & looked good. Also took the ignition switch off & gave the connections a good look. Everything looks good. The problem is absolutely NO power to anything at all. It is as if there is no battery in the bike. When the key is turned on... nothing, no headlamp, warning lamps, nothing. No accessories are piggy backing any of the OE wiring. What has been done so far.--------------- Battery is good & fully charged. New starter relay installed. Both + and - cables cleaned & inspected. All connections cleaned thoroughly. Starter button contact cleaned, all is good. All fuses including the big one are good. Any suggestions? Unlike the rest of my mechanical abilities I am not good with electrical issues & don't have any meters or anything else to diagnose with. Wouldn't know what to do with them anyways. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
'13 F6B black-the real new Valkyrie Tourer
'13 F6B red for Kim
'97 Valkyrie Tourer r&w, OLDFRT's ride now!
'98 Valkyrie Tourer burgundy & cream traded for Kim's F6B
'05 SS 750 traded for Kim's F6B
'99 Valkyrie black & silver Tourer, traded in on my F6B
'05 Triumph R3 gone but not forgotten!
|
|
|
|
Bighead
|
|
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2014, 01:03:19 PM » |
|
Sounds like a short maybe a rodent chewed a wire? Don't know how to help.sorry.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
1997 Bumble Bee
1999 Interstate (sold)
2016 Wing
|
|
|
|
3W-lonerider
|
|
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2014, 01:07:26 PM » |
|
my suggestion if you arn't familier with a meter or at least a test light. then why so much agrivation. let someone you know that works on stuff like that tackle the problem.
unless you have an unlimited cash flow to just keep throwing parts at it.. i really think you would have at least 1 friend that has some knowledge of electrical. or maybe theres another valk rider or goldwing rider in your area that could help.
without being able to track it with a multimeter you just guessing. you might as well just put a sign on the wall ( bang head here ).
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
98pacecar
|
|
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2014, 01:30:41 PM » |
|
When a problem of this type arises fer me.  I give it a few hours of my time, do the best I can,,, and if at the end of that period,,, ??? I don't at least have a direction ta proceed?  I give da hell up,,, n' take it to a professional.  It just ain't worth the agg,,, ta me...  Pay da man,,,,,,,,,,,,, n' move on... (when need be)  |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Momz
|
|
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2014, 01:41:00 PM » |
|
Check the ground wire o the frame/motor.
Common problem,....easy fix. Remove clean all surfaces, a little dialectric grease, and a good tightening, and all's well.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
 ALWAYS QUESTION AUTHORITY! 97 Valk bobber, 98 Valk Rat Rod, 2K SuperValk, plus several other classic bikes |
|
|
|
Ricky-D
|
|
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2014, 02:20:30 PM » |
|
Depending upon what the bike may have lived through, there have been instanced of the connectors on the ends of battery cables losing conductivity with the wire itself. Mostly from corrosion but other factors also.
It might be a good idea to actually check how well they are attached to the wires.
Simple and easy.
Just one suggestion.
***
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
2000_Valkyrie_Interstate
|
|
|
Tropic traveler
Member
Posts: 3117
Livin' the Valk, er, F6B life in Central Florida.
Silver Springs, Florida
|
|
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2014, 02:20:46 PM » |
|
Check the ground wire o the frame/motor.
Common problem,....easy fix. Remove clean all surfaces, a little dialectric grease, and a good tightening, and all's well.
Did that. It was in good shape but I cleaned it anyways. Nothing. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
'13 F6B black-the real new Valkyrie Tourer
'13 F6B red for Kim
'97 Valkyrie Tourer r&w, OLDFRT's ride now!
'98 Valkyrie Tourer burgundy & cream traded for Kim's F6B
'05 SS 750 traded for Kim's F6B
'99 Valkyrie black & silver Tourer, traded in on my F6B
'05 Triumph R3 gone but not forgotten!
|
|
|
Tropic traveler
Member
Posts: 3117
Livin' the Valk, er, F6B life in Central Florida.
Silver Springs, Florida
|
|
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2014, 02:22:14 PM » |
|
Depending upon what the bike may have lived through, there have been instanced of the connectors on the ends of battery cables losing conductivity with the wire itself. Mostly from corrosion but other factors also.
It might be a good idea to actually check how well they are attached to the wires.
Simple and easy.
Just one suggestion.
***
Took them all off, they are in very good condition. Still, nothing. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
'13 F6B black-the real new Valkyrie Tourer
'13 F6B red for Kim
'97 Valkyrie Tourer r&w, OLDFRT's ride now!
'98 Valkyrie Tourer burgundy & cream traded for Kim's F6B
'05 SS 750 traded for Kim's F6B
'99 Valkyrie black & silver Tourer, traded in on my F6B
'05 Triumph R3 gone but not forgotten!
|
|
|
|
Red Diamond
|
|
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2014, 02:24:24 PM » |
|
It looks like you have two Valkyries, so try this. Remove the ignition switch from the running bike and install it on the none running bike. This is fairly easy to do,, if something shorted in the ignition system it could kill everything as you have discribed. Try not to throw money into someone elses pocket until you have exhausted ever resource.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
 If you are riding and it is a must that you keep your eyes on the road, you are riding too fast. |
|
|
Tropic traveler
Member
Posts: 3117
Livin' the Valk, er, F6B life in Central Florida.
Silver Springs, Florida
|
|
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2014, 02:46:00 PM » |
|
It looks like you have two Valkyries, so try this. Remove the ignition switch from the running bike and install it on the none running bike. This is fairly easy to do,, if something shorted in the ignition system it could kill everything as you have discribed. Try not to throw money into someone elses pocket until you have exhausted ever resource.
Yep, that's probably my next move! |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
'13 F6B black-the real new Valkyrie Tourer
'13 F6B red for Kim
'97 Valkyrie Tourer r&w, OLDFRT's ride now!
'98 Valkyrie Tourer burgundy & cream traded for Kim's F6B
'05 SS 750 traded for Kim's F6B
'99 Valkyrie black & silver Tourer, traded in on my F6B
'05 Triumph R3 gone but not forgotten!
|
|
|
R J
Member
Posts: 13380
DS-0009 ...... # 173
Des Moines, IA
|
|
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2014, 02:47:44 PM » |
|
Go buy a firkin volt meter, then learn how to use it chasing electricity.
Find a good place to secure a ground, then start at the battery HOT terminal and start chasing where ever it goes for there till you find the culprit.
Another thing you might try. Grab ahold the the ground battery cable and yank hard on it. It just might surprise you and come apart. If it still is one piece do the same to the hot cable.
One of our guys at the shop had spent 2 days chasing problems on a Mazda Pickup. I walked in the shop to pickup some Payroll stuff and sign checks. Walked over yanked on the hot cable and the end staid on the battery. Put a new cable on it, tested it some more and sent it down the road. That crap do happen at times.
I'd also take the battery to an auto parts store and have them do a load test on it.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
44 Harley ServiCar   |
|
|
|
KG
|
|
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2014, 04:35:43 PM » |
|
Check battery voltage with a meter then turn the key on and see if it drops to zero. Could be a cell going bad in the battery. Don't have a meter use a test light or rig an old tail light and hook it to the battery and see if it goes dim or out.
|
|
|
|
« Last Edit: February 02, 2014, 04:37:47 PM by KG »
|
Logged
|
What we do all have is a limited number of days to devote to whatever we love in this life. Not all the same number of days but all have limited days....Willow
|
|
|
csj
Member
Posts: 992
I used to be a wolfboy, but I'm alright NOOOOOWWWW
Peterborough Ontario Canada
|
|
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2014, 04:52:17 PM » |
|
When you said 'clicking relay', I've had that happen a number of times.
It has always been a bad battery. How about bring your car up, throw on
the jumper cables, see if that gets her goin.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
A guy called me a Ba$tard, I said in my case it's an accident
of birth, in your case you're a self made man.
|
|
|
John Schmidt
Member
Posts: 15237
a/k/a Stuffy. '99 I/S Valk Roadsmith Trike
De Pere, WI (Green Bay)
|
|
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2014, 05:39:01 PM » |
|
Eddie, wish you lived closer, I could lend a hand and also show you how simple it is to use a volt meter. You don't need to be an injunear to use one....I'm proof of that.  |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
eric in md
Member
Posts: 2495
ride hard now we all can rest when were gone !!!
in the mountains .......cumberland md
|
|
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2014, 05:49:29 PM » |
|
just try to switch batterys also. im betting battery,, there all junk
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Bigwolf
|
|
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2014, 07:42:16 PM » |
|
Have you checked the 30 amp main fuse A. I popped one when a wire got shorted. Had the same symtoms......click under right side cover, then no power anywhere. Main fuse A is inside the connector on the starter relay. If that fuse is blown, do a thorough search for a short before putting a new fuse in there and trying to start the bike.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
trout dude
|
|
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2014, 07:55:03 PM » |
|
Might be a stupid ? but did you rock the kill switch back and forth to make sure it not stuck in off. Just a easy check Might just help.
Dennis
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
TJ
|
|
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2014, 09:16:10 AM » |
|
Hey Eddie,
give me a call and I'll try to help you...
8six3-six59-1343
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Thunderbolt
|
|
« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2014, 05:04:39 PM » |
|
Eddie if you and TJ don't get it going over the phone send me an email and I would be glad to try to give you a hand. I would start with the connector/harness where the 30A main fuse lives.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
