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« on: March 15, 2014, 01:37:59 PM » |
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Needed to replace left side valve cover due to my wreck in October? Have both valve cover gaskets and new left side cover. With research on our boards I find most valves were not worth checking at any given mileage.
I have the time as the body parts are still at the painter. Just don't want to waste the time if not needed? When bike was running prior to wreck and while running recently to check new alternator, valves are quite.
Your expert opinions are appreciated.
Thanks
Stan
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wiggydotcom
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« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2014, 01:59:52 PM » |
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I just checked mine since I bought the bike used with 45k miles and now have 71k. I wasn't sure if they'd ever been checked.
I found a few that were slightly off and corrected them.
I assume you have the procedure. Make sure when you turn the crankshaft and line up the timing marks that you are on the right stroke. If the valves you're checking aren't slightly loose when you rock them, turn the crankshaft 360 and check again.
Also, when you put the valve covers back on, note where there was sealant on the old gasket and apply new sealant on the new gaskets....you don't need a ton, but I figure if Honda thought they needed to add it, I better also.
Oh, and do your valve checks with the engine COLD!
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« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2014, 02:08:19 PM » |
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Thanks Wiggy, I've decided to adjust them as bike has 129,000 miles. One or two may be off a hair so what the hay. It's not like I have anything else to do!!!!!  How are you with the Yokohama car tire we discussed awhile back? |
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wiggydotcom
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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2014, 02:19:46 PM » |
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Thanks Wiggy, I've decided to adjust them as bike has 129,000 miles. One or two may be off a hair so what the hay. It's not like I have anything else to do!!!!! How are you with the Yokohama car tire we discussed awhile back? It's no sweat to adjust them. Honda made it nice not to have to deal with shims. Just recheck them after you tighten the nuts, while holding the screwdriver on the slot. Still liking the Yokohama Avid Envigor...You gave me a good recommendation for that tire..Thanks! But I've only got in a half hour of riding(last Saturday) since last November due to this Illinois weather. I think I have only about 3k miles on the tire, but hopefully I can get some more seat time in next week. I need to test it in some twisties before Inzane. Good Luck on the valve checks. |
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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2014, 03:43:58 PM » |
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Thanks Wiggy, I've decided to adjust them as bike has 129,000 miles. One or two may be off a hair so what the hay. It's not like I have anything else to do!!!!! How are you with the Yokohama car tire we discussed awhile back? Thanks for reporting back as it adds to a lot reports that lifters need little, if any, adjustment. It also makes me feel more comfortable because my 97 has 32,000 miles and has had no check on tolerances yet. Been to busy riding and doing other things but it's on my to do list.  |
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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2014, 08:38:45 AM » |
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Looking at the OEM bolts that hold the covers you will see (if original) there are inserts in the allen-heads that completely block the insertion of a wrench to turn the bolts.
My take on that specific feature is: these valve cover bolts are an item that is not necessary to remove under normal circumstances for the life of the item.
I don't even know if the inserts are available now or ever.
Honda, to my mind, intended that there is not ever, under ordinary conditions, a need to gain access to under the covers.
Experience, as reported in this forum, has shown: This to be true.
That is, except those who know better than Honda, as they will surely object to my premise.
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« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2014, 12:23:00 PM » |
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These engines have shown themselves too be very bullet-proof and the valve adjustment doesn't move around much. Honda recommends [ if I remember correctly] check this about every 12K miles. Not many are found to be out of adjustment by much. My opinion is to check/adjust them every once in awhile, especially if you do not know the history of the bike.
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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2014, 03:25:52 PM » |
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Looking at the OEM bolts that hold the covers you will see (if original) there are inserts in the allen-heads that completely block the insertion of a wrench to turn the bolts.
My take on that specific feature is: these valve cover bolts are an item that is not necessary to remove under normal circumstances for the life of the item.
I don't even know if the inserts are available now or ever.
Honda, to my mind, intended that there is not ever, under ordinary conditions, a need to gain access to under the covers.
Experience, as reported in this forum, has shown: This to be true.
That is, except those who know better than Honda, as they will surely object to my premise.
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Sounds like "You" are the one that thinks he knows better than Honda . Might want to re-read the service manual written by Honda. |
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« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2014, 04:52:21 PM » |
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Just finished adjustment on valves. Total of three individual valves needed adjustment in which they were to loose or too tight with the go no go method. Easy job. Need to finish installing covers after dinner.
Bike has 129,000 miles. Last time they were adjusted was by BigBF in Johnson City at Inzane at 50,000 miles.
Thanks to all for the help.
RickyD those black rubber plugs on the Allen screws in the covers are for corrosion protection of the Allen heads. Just saying what I've been told by my father (long time mechanic) and several ASE mechanic friends.
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« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2014, 05:58:41 PM » |
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Just adjusted mine at 14k and they needed no adjustment. The wiring in front of the rt valve cover were a pain to get the cover back on.
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Patrick
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« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2014, 05:03:54 AM » |
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Just finished adjustment on valves. Total of three individual valves needed adjustment in which they were to loose or too tight with the go no go method. Easy job. Need to finish installing covers after dinner.
Bike has 129,000 miles. Last time they were adjusted was by BigBF in Johnson City at Inzane at 50,000 miles.
Thanks to all for the help.
RickyD those black rubber plugs on the Allen screws in the covers are for corrosion protection of the Allen heads. Just saying what I've been told by my father (long time mechanic) and several ASE mechanic friends.
Good, what you found is what everyone seems to find. As your father would tell you, the noisy valve won't hurt you, its the quiet one that will. |
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