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« on: March 27, 2014, 04:53:29 PM »

Looking for a Throttle lock that will work with these grips... any suggestions?

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« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2014, 04:58:52 PM »

Trust me when I say you want this......

http://www.brakeawayproducts.com/appguide-7CP01.php?make_id=1&model_id=3

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« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2014, 05:28:49 PM »

Does the grip need to be broken loose from the cable control to use that lock??
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« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2014, 05:31:01 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2014, 05:42:10 PM »

I posted this before, but don't know how to link to that, so I just copied it. About 8,000 miles and still working fine.....

I was thinking of getting a throttle lock, but not to excited about removing my iso grip after I glued it on really good. I ran across this on youtube and thought i'd give it a try.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj1wCCDZIYg
  
It works fine. It does provide me with some relief for that long ride and I can remove it at any time. It is not all that pretty, but it does work and the price is right.
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« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2014, 05:42:45 PM »

Yeah, just found that installation video on youtube,,, quite an install, but it looks like a quality product.

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« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2014, 05:43:54 PM »

Looking for a Throttle lock that will work with these grips... any suggestions?




Wow I've got the same grips yeah +1
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« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2014, 05:49:26 PM »

I posted this before, but don't know how to link to that, so I just copied it. About 8,000 miles and still working fine.....

I was thinking of getting a throttle lock, but not to excited about removing my iso grip after I glued it on really good. I ran across this on youtube and thought i'd give it a try.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj1wCCDZIYg
  
It works fine. It does provide me with some relief for that long ride and I can remove it at any time. It is not all that pretty, but it does work and the price is right.

I hear ya brother, anything in a pinch,,, but I want something a bit more permanent,, you know, I can leave it on the bike and it works every time,,,,
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« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2014, 06:11:41 PM »

The Brakeaway is spendy to be sure....however, it's hands down THE best throttle lock on the market.  It works flawlessly and looks factory. 

As Anvil would say....it's tits.   cooldude
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« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2014, 07:43:21 PM »

It is no big deal to pull the throttle grip, an icepick and some spray solvent.

Simple, billet aluminum and looks like it belongs on the bike.

http://madcorider.com/cam-lock_honda_cruisers.html




 
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« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2014, 11:26:17 PM »

  " It is no big deal to pull the throttle grip, an icepick and some spray solvent."

stay away from this type ...         coolsmiley

the grip will not be allowed to slide all the way back on
and the tip of the grip tube will break leaving you with a grip end that will bend back and fourth
the gizmo takes up room between the switch housing and the grip tube will stick out that far. don't sound like much ... been there ... done that and it sucks
breakaway is a jewel ..pricey yes ..I found on ebay for  c note and jumped on it
in the package all papers everything ...  happy camper here
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« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2014, 11:33:15 PM »

+1 for the Brakeaway, I picked up new one a guy bought and never installed. Install took only a few minutes and love the brake release function. Works like a charm..
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« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2014, 11:42:43 PM »

  " It is no big deal to pull the throttle grip, an icepick and some spray solvent."

stay away from this type ...         coolsmiley

the grip will not be allowed to slide all the way back on
and the tip of the grip tube will break leaving you with a grip end that will bend back and fourth
the gizmo takes up room between the switch housing and the grip tube will stick out that far. don't sound like much ... been there ... done that and it sucks
breakaway is a jewel ..pricey yes ..I found on ebay for  c note and jumped on it
in the package all papers everything ...  happy camper here

What !!!.......... I had no such experience with the Cam -Lock, it is very thin and does not interfere with the function of the throttle at all  ................. Thumb operated, easy on-off, looks factory,  priced right and a First Rate Vendor.  I have the Iso grips as well.  I won't lie, It was a bit of a struggle getting the grip off, but I managed no problem.  I used a little WD-40 and a thin steak knife.  cooldude    
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« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2014, 05:06:10 AM »

 " It is no big deal to pull the throttle grip, an icepick and some spray solvent."

stay away from this type ...         coolsmiley

the grip will not be allowed to slide all the way back on
and the tip of the grip tube will break leaving you with a grip end that will bend back and fourth
the gizmo takes up room between the switch housing and the grip tube will stick out that far. don't sound like much ... been there ... done that and it sucks
breakaway is a jewel ..pricey yes ..I found on ebay for  c note and jumped on it
in the package all papers everything ...  happy camper here

What !!!.......... I had no such experience with the Cam -Lock, it is very thin and does not interfere with the function of the throttle at all  ................. Thumb operated, easy on-off, looks factory,  priced right and a First Rate Vendor.  I have the Iso grips as well.  I won't lie, It was a bit of a struggle getting the grip off, but I managed no problem.  I used a little WD-40 and a thin steak knife.  cooldude    

It does steal about a quarter inch of support from the bottom of the throttle grip, but the Kury ISOs for valk (longer than standard, something like 6 1/4" instead of the standard 5 3/4") come with about a half inch spacer you are supposed to drop down in the grip before installation (for added stability).  I reused this spacer on install of these cam locks on both my bikes and there is no problem.  I use the throttle bosses that can be added to the bottom of each ISO throttle grip all the time, and this also is not a problem with throttle grip stability.  

Remove the ISO four screw endcap and work an icepick up carefully between the grip and throttle sleeve.  Take a can of spray solvent with the thin long nozzle and slide the nozzle in next to the ice pick and spray; do it at 12, 3, 6 and 9 oclock and the grip will come off.  Clean both grip and sleeve of old glue.  

When reinstalling grip, use RTV silicone sealant instead of glue, mostly down inside the grip (most of what you put on the throttle sleeve, is pushed to the top when sliding the grip on).  This makes any future removal of the grip much easier than using glue.  After a couple years, my throttle grips get a bit of movement from use, and when it moves too freely, I redo the job with RTV.... easy job.

The beauty of the more expensive Breakaway is an automatic release.  But you adjust the cam lock so it has just enough pressure to hold the throttle in place while riding, but loose enough that it can be returned with your hand even with the lock engaged.  The little cam lock adjustment tool/socket can be added to your bike key ring.
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« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2014, 06:14:04 AM »

+1  cooldude On the Breakaway throttle lock. Had one for about a year now. It does what it does, doesn't look cheesy (like some do), and most of the time people don't even notice it's there.
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« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2014, 06:18:17 AM »

I have the Breakaway - LOVE IT!

Was a pain to installl...correctly. Or I should say for me to get it tuned in right.

Once I did.. no problems in wither hot or cold weather.

I have the ISO grops.

Took a little "fiddling" with to set it right, but wqorks great. Love it on trips.. to get a quick drink of water... or what have you.
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« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2014, 06:52:39 AM »


  Brakeaway for me also on OEM grip.  As was posted, it took me a while to fine tune it to lock correctly and release at proper point when squeezing front brake handle.  Once properly installed  I haven't really had to worry about it for a couple of years.  cooldude

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« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2014, 06:52:52 AM »

The Brakeaway is spendy to be sure....however, it's hands down THE best throttle lock on the market.  It works flawlessly and looks factory. 

As Anvil would say....it's tits.   cooldude

 cooldude Brake away is the best an safest IMO!
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« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2014, 06:53:28 AM »

. . . . stay away from this type [madcorider Cam Lock]...         coolsmiley

the grip will not be allowed to slide all the way back on
and the tip of the grip tube will break leaving you with a grip end that will bend back and fourth . . . .


I had exactly that problem with the OEM grips.  However, with the Kury aftermarket, I have no problem.  I love the Cam Lock.

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« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2014, 06:55:00 AM »

My first Valk , a 98, had the cam lock and it was great cooldude I tried to find the source again when I got my current ride and couldn't seem to pull it up from anywhere before my wife got me the Brake Away model for a Father's day gift. The Brake Away works great, but that Cam Lock was nice when I had it.
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« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2014, 09:21:41 AM »

Geeshhh.... the pictures make me want to go and polish out my controls and handlebar accessories.. you guys!!!

Well, it looks like two major ways to go so far.... the cam lock type, which has some potential problems (removal of grip and possible throttle tube problems) or the Breakaway which you have shown me a couple installed on the Kury grips,, and,, everyone who has one loves it ...but it costs a years salary while I am collecting a Woodies, amp and stereo and paint right now.  I am thinking that since I will be milling out some clamps for the gauge relocation mounts soon,, I MAY make something that will do the trick if I see a good way to go about it while I am messing with the machine tools.   

I really like the Breakaway and have seen a couple used on eBay for about $100,, are there different models or are they all the same?
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« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2014, 09:32:00 AM »

Instead of a nice pic and spray solevent or a steak knife use an air compressor with a needle tip and blow air between the handle bar and rubber sleeve and the grip will slip off pretty easy.
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« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2014, 09:34:05 AM »

Geeshhh.... the pictures make me want to go and polish out my controls and handlebar accessories.. you guys!!!

Well, it looks like two major ways to go so far.... the cam lock type, which has some potential problems (removal of grip and possible throttle tube problems) or the Breakaway which you have shown me a couple installed on the Kury grips,, and,, everyone who has one loves it ...but it costs a years salary while I am collecting a Woodies, amp and stereo and paint right now.  I am thinking that since I will be milling out some clamps for the gauge relocation mounts soon,, I MAY make something that will do the trick if I see a good way to go about it while I am messing with the machine tools.  

I really like the Breakaway and have seen a couple used on eBay for about $100,, are there different models or are they all the same?

Just a note for you, I have the Brake Away , but to be honest, I don't use it that much, like I used the Cam Lock style one on my previous Valk. The difference? I have a Throttle Boss lever on the end of my Kury grips. If you have the Kury grips , you might consider this add on to the throttle side. Here is just a random link I pulled up.  http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/8139/i/kuryakyn-iso-throttle-boss?device=c&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=CPbCxufTtb0CFYY7MgodJhwAqQ

They really make a difference with a long ride. Allows you to just keep a palm down on the throttle while relaxing or flexing your fingers. cooldude
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« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2014, 10:24:28 AM »

I use the throttle boss to make slight adjustments in speed with my cam lock engaged... mostly speed ups as the road rises.  All with the flat throttle hand just covering the controls... grip unnecessary.

But hey, if you are looking for something just for now that works for minimal expense  (even though it looks pretty cheapo, try this:    (get something fancier later as funds allow)

http://www.aerostich.com/nep-cruise-control.html
http://www.bikebandit.com/nep-cruise-control?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=merchantfeed&utm_campaign=pla&gclid=CJTExqfftb0CFahlOgodpXwA4w


If you cannot squeeze it between the available space between the controls and the chrome upper edge of the Iso grips, just loosen the controls above the grip, and slide them up the bar a millimeter or two, just enough to make it fit.  No need to remove the grip. 

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« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2014, 11:22:05 PM »

My 2001 Standard Valk came with a Vista cruise throttle lock on ISO grips. I've just ordered the new Brake-away, and I have removed most of the Vista  (which is now for sale).  But, having carefully removed the three set screws, I do not know how to remove the black plastic ring that seems immovably attached to the chrome at the end of my ISO grips. What will it take to slide this off?
Vice-grips wide open, clamp gently and twist??
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« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2014, 05:29:34 AM »

I used a brake-a-way lock on my Standard and moved it to my IS after the Standard was totaled. It is by-far the nicest throttle lock I've seen and the fact that it unlocks when you pull the brake lever is a nice safety feature. One thing to keep in mind: if you install wide aftermarket levers, they will no longer turn the lock off when you pull the brake lever. I added wide, adjustable Kuryakyn chrome levers and I lost that function.

I ended up installing the Audiovox cruise control. I kept the brake-a-way on in case I didn't like the CC, but removed and sold it pretty soon after. After being spoiled with the cruise, there's no way I'd bother with another throttle lock again.
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« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2014, 06:45:13 AM »

I have been really  lucky with mine, on my vista cruise throttle lock, I never had to change the battery, also it never blew a fuse on me.
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« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2014, 07:26:48 AM »

i got the Go Cruise and love the simplicity and teh function.  low cost, 5 secs to install.
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« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2014, 11:45:26 AM »

Have this one on my Pacific Coast.    coolsmiley



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« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2014, 02:40:09 PM »

I used a brake-a-way lock on my Standard and moved it to my IS after the Standard was totaled. It is by-far the nicest throttle lock I've seen and the fact that it unlocks when you pull the brake lever is a nice safety feature. One thing to keep in mind: if you install wide aftermarket levers, they will no longer turn the lock off when you pull the brake lever. I added wide, adjustable Kuryakyn chrome levers and I lost that function.

I ended up installing the Audiovox cruise control. I kept the brake-a-way on in case I didn't like the CC, but removed and sold it pretty soon after. After being spoiled with the cruise, there's no way I'd bother with another throttle lock again.

Brakeaway sells a cam riser kit for 10 bucks for the same reason. I had the Kuryakyn wide levers when I installed the brakeaway along with the cam riser and it worked perfectly. Of course, I sold my brakeaway when I decided to go with an Audiovox CCS-100 CC.
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« Reply #30 on: May 07, 2014, 03:16:01 PM »

I used a brake-a-way lock on my Standard and moved it to my IS after the Standard was totaled. It is by-far the nicest throttle lock I've seen and the fact that it unlocks when you pull the brake lever is a nice safety feature. One thing to keep in mind: if you install wide aftermarket levers, they will no longer turn the lock off when you pull the brake lever. I added wide, adjustable Kuryakyn chrome levers and I lost that function.

I ended up installing the Audiovox cruise control. I kept the brake-a-way on in case I didn't like the CC, but removed and sold it pretty soon after. After being spoiled with the cruise, there's no way I'd bother with another throttle lock again.

What Audiovox cruise control did you get Nitro??... I don't see a motorcycle specific one.

I just saw some information on the CCS-100 being used on motorcycles,,  I wonder where does the vacuum servo fit, and can you use a coil for your speed sensor/motor rpm signal?
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« Reply #31 on: May 07, 2014, 07:16:25 PM »

I used a brake-a-way lock on my Standard and moved it to my IS after the Standard was totaled. It is by-far the nicest throttle lock I've seen and the fact that it unlocks when you pull the brake lever is a nice safety feature. One thing to keep in mind: if you install wide aftermarket levers, they will no longer turn the lock off when you pull the brake lever. I added wide, adjustable Kuryakyn chrome levers and I lost that function.

I ended up installing the Audiovox cruise control. I kept the brake-a-way on in case I didn't like the CC, but removed and sold it pretty soon after. After being spoiled with the cruise, there's no way I'd bother with another throttle lock again.

What Audiovox cruise control did you get Nitro??... I don't see a motorcycle specific one.

I just saw some information on the CCS-100 being used on motorcycles,,  I wonder where does the vacuum servo fit, and can you use a coil for your speed sensor/motor rpm signal?

I used the ccs-100. I installed the servo in my fairing. And yes, you write it to a coil for engine speed.

Check out Shoptalk, there is an excellent set of instructions there with pictures.
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« Reply #32 on: May 08, 2014, 05:18:26 AM »

anyone install the electronic rostra  in their I/S yet?  opinions?
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« Reply #33 on: May 08, 2014, 10:47:36 AM »

anyone install the electronic rostra  in their I/S yet?  opinions?


Installed one five years ago, has never given me a problem.   Mounted in the Fairing and all electrical connections can be made in the Fairing as well.    Used the Pingle Slimline Switch on the handlebar, looks factory.

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« Reply #34 on: May 08, 2014, 11:39:59 AM »

so pretty straight forward, no words of wisdom?  pics?......
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« Reply #35 on: May 08, 2014, 11:56:38 AM »

When you say "electronic rosta', I assume you are talking about the UlraCruise 250-1316 ..??  I wonder if that unit can be wired to the neg side of a coil for it's speed sensor pickup like the CCS-100.
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« Reply #36 on: May 08, 2014, 01:36:21 PM »

The issue of cruise control vs throttle lock, again appears to be one of those things driven by geography.  

I do ride in some straight and level, but only to get out of the burbs to where I want to ride all day (and the burbs are way too busy to use cruise or lock anyway, beyond a minute or three if you are lucky).  Where I mostly ride has very little straight and level (or heavy traffic)..... that's why I go there.  I have no need or use for a cruise control (or my throttle lock either, beyond a few seconds or maybe minutes) for almost all of my riding.  I take 1-2 longer trips on the Eway per year, and I could use a cruise for that, but the lock is good enough.  (I do not use it to maintain constant speeds and minimize performance awards... like I will in my car, I use it mostly just to rest my throttle hand...... or the rare chore while underway that briefly requires both hands)

I guess flatlanders can use cruise much more often.  

OK, so it's geography..... and being a tightwad.  Grin  

(not that I've exactly scrimped for any other dang thing I really wanted for my bikes)

  
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« Reply #37 on: May 08, 2014, 02:34:22 PM »

Well, I have small mountain ranges both North and South of me, but I plan to be doing some long distance traveling in a little while.... and if I can install a regular cruise for not much more than a good throttle lock (breakaway), I'd just as soon go the more complicated route if I can hide the hardware. I think I will be doing some long hauls on some long roads.

Have not received the Tsukayu faring yet (watching the tracking number, should be here next Tuesday), and don't know how much room will be inside it.... So, if I can use the UlraCruise which does not require a vacuum reservoir I would like it better. Not sure if I can get a servo under the airbox if I remove the pair valve and reed valves or not.... just trying to get information...

Just checked out that shoptalk article Nitro,, your right everything you need to know to install the CCS-100.
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« Reply #38 on: May 08, 2014, 04:34:33 PM »

You can install the CCS-100 without a vacuum canister as well. I used all except #6 for vacuum when I did my install.
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« Reply #39 on: May 08, 2014, 05:53:32 PM »

You can install the CCS-100 without a vacuum canister as well. I used all except #6 for vacuum when I did my install.

Same here, but I only tapped two of the intake for vacuum, works perfectly.
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