Dyna 3000 - Hard Starting

[RUDE DOG - Steelers]

I have an '03 Standard.  I installed a Dyna 3000 a few weeks ago, replacing my Interstate ICM.  Seemed to work fine.  I have the stock trigger wheel in the bike also. Problem I had was the warmer the bike was when I shut if off, the harder it was to start back up.  If the bike was cold, it fired no problem.  I sent the unit back to Dyna and they first said that it tested perfectly.  After a few more calls they said the unit is problematic in general with the Valk.  Said they dont make it anymore and dont have any on hand and cant replace it and would refund my money.  Sucks because I really liked the adjustability of it.  I asked if they suggested buying a new one somewhere else and they basically said thats my call but you still may have a similar problem.

[98valk]

they have new owners and don't want to stand behind their product and bikers like before.
I made a separate bracket to hold the unit, so as it is not insulated inside of the oem rubber boot. Talking to them the last couple of yrs the unit does generate some heat, the reason for the aluminum case and small cooling fins.
If this one breaks and no replacement I will not be happy.
Talking to them after a few times I have come to the conclusion that the stock oem coils are to low in ohms and thereby cause the eventual failure of the unit. The unit really is designed for higher ohm coils which just happen to be the dyna coils. I was using coils from a cbr1100xx that where only .5 ohm lower yet provided a hotter spark than stock and like clockwork the dyna would fail in 2 yrs. they sent a replacement 3 times. I now went back to the oem coils. By their specs the XX coils are in the range they said to use. I think they based everything on the amount of racing time not everyday use.

[RUDE DOG - Steelers]

Well they are giving me a full refund so I cant say they arent standing behind it.  They just said they dont have anything to replace it with.

[98valk]

should have clairfied. before the new owners they would replace or repair regardless of how long one had it, now it has to be within 1 yr.
looks like I have to buy a spare and get their coils.

[Robert]

CA dont bother with their coils if thats all your doing it for is so the Dyna unit works. I currently have their coils on my bike and they are a big improvement over the stock coils. I now run with a 40 thou gap and there is a difference but it will not stop the problems with the dyna unit. I had the Dyna Ignition on when I got the coils and it didn't work with them either its not the coils that cause the thing to go south. I think it may be the chip that they use in the Dyna because it cannot handle the voltage that the pickups put out. If you put a resistor in the pickup line then you can get it to live a bit longer but eventually it will head south. Its only some bikes too, Mine is one of them and I wish I could have put the Dyna on and had it work ok its really the best solution to timing that there is. I now have the 4deg wheel and interstate icm and its ok but its not the Dyna I haven't tried a new pickup setup and more than likely wont either, I really dont want to play around that much and see what I can get to work when its not really going to do all that much for the performance. Also just as a side note I wouldn't call Dyna because the person you get more than likely will not be the one that could help you. They know that the Valk unit has problems and financially it doesn't make sense to them to fix what the problem is for this unit. I know the head engineer at Dyna and was talking to him till they put a wall up and wouldn't let me talk to him anymore, the reason he has a limited amount of time and doesn't need to be discussing a dead product. The head of sales got on the phone and tried to talk shop. I asked him his electrical experience and the answer came back none. So I said theres no way that you can help in the fixing of this product, answer "no". So he was just wasting my time and anyone else who calls will get the same thing. More than likely you will get damage control. It really pissed me off that after going through the process of trying to help in the beginning and helping to redesign the unit that I was just kicked to the curb in a stupid way.  The mods did make a difference and it made more of the units live but it just wasn't good enough. Just my experience with Dyna and their customer service ability. I am sure that Dyna does make other good products like I said I do have their coils and do like them but dont expect that you have anything coming from them with this unit.

[98valk]

Thanks Robert,
I have found the same poor attitude from them ever since the new owners took over.
Last time I talk to them, they led me to believe that the ohm rating of the coil effects longevity of the unit.
please fill me in on this pickup voltage idea/problem. There are ways to reduce the voltage and any other info u have. I want to keep this dyna running.
thanks

[YardBoy]

I keep my stock unit in the saddlebag and hope mine is one of those that lasts for 100k plus.   

[RUDE DOG - Steelers]

I have the Interstate ICM.  Will the 4 degree trigger wheel work ok with that?  I assume the 6 degree may be too much.

[Robert]

If you are not having a problem with the Dyna then dont worry about putting a resistor in the line for the pickups because some bikes seem to be ok with it just as is. My bike went through 5 or 6 units and they would last awhile then go out. The problem always seemed to be at around 1800 rpm the thing would just backfire and miss something awful. All other rpms seemed to be ok sometimes I had problems in the high ranges too but that was intermittent. The resistors I have are at work and I really dont remember the ohms I think around 10 ohms. They are wired one side to the pickup wire and one side to the ground. I did it in the wire that goes into the icm just removed a little of the insulation and soldered the resistor in.
Steelers I made a 4 degree wheel and I use the interstate icm and it works good.