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« on: April 16, 2014, 01:18:08 PM » |
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A fella was telling about a $300 aftermarket reverse kit that'll fit almost anything. Never heard of such a thing.
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Otus
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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2014, 02:51:09 PM » |
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I saw this the other day and was wondering what it was. Not the thing sitting on it, quite familiar with them. I'm talking about the lever above the passenger floorboard, I thought it looked like it might be a reverse.  |
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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2014, 02:56:18 PM » |
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The lever in the photo above looks like it swings forward to be a forward-position passenger foot peg. Never seen it before. It's not connected to the transmission, so can't be a reverser. The only universal reverse kit I can think of would be instructions to always park facing up hill. Lots of profit in that kit.  |
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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2014, 03:02:40 PM » |
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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2014, 04:48:41 PM » |
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There have been a couple of times I could have used a reverse..... you know, being caught in a bad spot at the wrong incline.
I would go to some pretty extreme lengths over a winter to put one in if I got an idea.
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gordonv
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« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2014, 05:18:10 PM » |
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I would look for a GL1500 GW, and see if it would swap into the Valk with some other mods.
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« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2014, 07:32:03 PM » |
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I would look for a GL1500 GW, and see if it would swap into the Valk with some other mods.
The 1500 GW has a reverse?? |
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« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2014, 07:35:23 PM » |
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I would look for a GL1500 GW, and see if it would swap into the Valk with some other mods.
The 1500 GW has a reverse?? YES They do !! |
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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2014, 07:40:39 PM » |
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Well that opens up a whole world of possibilities.....
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« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2014, 09:10:01 PM » |
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We just got a 1995 Goldwing SE (twenty year edition) with a reverse. I am going thru the bike to sell it. I rode it and do not like it. I prefer the Valk. The last wing I owned was an 88.
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« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2014, 11:53:55 PM » |
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I don't know if the earlier GW 1500's had reverse. My GL1500-GW does.  |
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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2014, 05:03:20 PM » |
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my 88' does have it.
I actually don't know if there where any GL1500 that could be bought without a reverse. I think the GL1800 can be had in 2 different flavors.
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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2014, 05:25:28 PM » |
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The Goldwing Interstate does not have reverse .The rest do . IIRC its about 40 lbs lighter becasue of it.
The GL1800 has reverse as well . Though I think the F6B may be had with or without reverse.
Back to the 1500.... It's not a simple bolt on though . There are some gears in the rear engine cover , of course a shift selector . Also lots of Electrics and saftey interlocks . Is it possible for a Valk? I expect so with some time and money .
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« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2014, 06:29:29 PM » |
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The Goldwing reverse involves some gearing and is driven with the starter motor. It's not an actual transmission feature.
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« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2014, 09:21:33 PM » |
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the main reverse gear at the output shaft is already in the valk. there is a set of gears and a starter clutch that have to come from the GW. relays to insure the engine running and in neutral before you can hit reverse would do it. and you have to finish boring out the hole on the rear case.
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« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2014, 04:54:09 AM » |
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So it is the starter motor that provides the force and momentum for the reverse?? Does it work if the motor is not running?
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« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2014, 06:33:49 AM » |
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On a Goldwing yes , the starter motor is the source of power for reverse . But as mentioned earlier there is some extra gear train under the rear cover which engages as well .
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« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2014, 08:54:17 AM » |
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So it is the starter motor that provides the force and momentum for the reverse?? Does it work if the motor is not running?
The GW needs to be running and in neutral, then you select reverse and hit the starter button and back she goes. |
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« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2014, 10:14:40 AM » |
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I saw this the other day and was wondering what it was. Not the thing sitting on it, quite familiar with them. I'm talking about the lever above the passenger floorboard, I thought it looked like it might be a reverse. Glad you pointed out the lever, I never would have seen it.  |
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« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2014, 11:07:31 AM » |
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So it is the starter motor that provides the force and momentum for the reverse?? Does it work if the motor is not running?
The GW needs to be running and in neutral, then you select reverse and hit the starter button and back she goes. COOL I'm gonna have to look into this,, it seems like a doable (and desirable to me) project. |
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« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2014, 12:54:07 PM » |
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I saw this the other day and was wondering what it was. Not the thing sitting on it, quite familiar with them. I'm talking about the lever above the passenger floorboard, I thought it looked like it might be a reverse. Glad you pointed out the lever, I never would have seen it. Ditto Mr. Fritz! Hay  Jimmyt |
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« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2014, 01:29:29 PM » |
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Well, I didn't notice it right away either.
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« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2014, 06:56:18 PM » |
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bike has to be running to disengage the starter clutch. obviously needs to be in neutral. flipping the lever rotates reverse shaft,pushing the gear into engagement that connects the starter gear to the gear on the output shaft. not a lot of parts. i picked up everything as a group off ebay for $60.00. still needed the starter clutch only. a set of 3 relays and one switch will work as a neutral/running safety. then make up a small lever off the end of the reverse shaft where it comes out of the rear of the block below the starter.
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« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2014, 07:06:56 PM » |
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So you are in the process of gathering parts to do this tank? I'd like to see some pictures of the work on the rear case and shaft lever when you do it.
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« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2014, 10:34:08 PM » |
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I saw this the other day and was wondering what it was. Not the thing sitting on it, quite familiar with them. I'm talking about the lever above the passenger floorboard, I thought it looked like it might be a reverse. whooray and I just purchased that bike. When we get her home we will let you know. Or, you can see it at inzane. Raymond is picking the bike up in Min. And riding it to inzane. Then back to Idaho after that. I think it's just a folding passenger peg though. |
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« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2014, 11:30:44 PM » |
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whooray and I just purchased that bike. When we get her home we will let you know. Or, you can see it at inzane. Raymond is picking the bike up in Min. And riding it to inzane. Then back to Idaho after that. I think it's just a folding passenger peg though. did the bike come with the seat warmer ? it looks like a nice option .  |
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« Reply #26 on: April 19, 2014, 06:24:35 AM » |
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What bike? Ill take the seat warmer any day.
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« Reply #27 on: April 20, 2014, 10:28:56 AM » |
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What bike? Ill take the seat warmer any day.
That might not be advisable for you.  I don't think it'd go well. |
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« Reply #28 on: May 27, 2014, 07:19:15 PM » |
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Was reading a little from a member named: MP. He has a friend, ClassicValk i think. Apparently he has done one with a combination of gl1500 & gl1800 parts. I believe he used an 1800 reverse engagement assembly that does the "engagement" electrically. No cables. Also he made mention of the fact that he eliminated a "toaster" type of resister that apparently slows the movement some. He claims it moves at about 2 mph.If anyone wants to look back at the info, it's titled: The Holy Valk Grail has been achieved! It takes you to our "sister sight" VOAI. You have to dig a little to get to his actual explaination of what he did. He's supposed to be debuting it at the VOAI meet in June. I can't make it to both meets so I hope to read about it after their meet on line. I'll line up for the info. I'm gonna eventually trike my Valk.
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« Reply #29 on: May 28, 2014, 01:12:22 PM » |
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[quote Though I think the F6B may be had with or without reverse.
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The F6B has no reverse available. Not even an option. It's one of Hondas big blunders. Many sales have been lost because of this.
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« Reply #30 on: May 28, 2014, 06:32:30 PM » |
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[quote Though I think the F6B may be had with or without reverse.
The F6B has no reverse available. Not even an option. It's one of Hondas big blunders. Many sales have been lost because of this. [/quote] Have been on the F6B forum recently and noticed that there are several threads on both reverse gear as well as electronic cruise control. Apparently this is a sore subject for several prospective F6B and GW-Valk buyers. Unfortunately there does not appear to be any easy fix for either and nothing on the horizon from the aftermarket. |
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« Reply #31 on: May 28, 2014, 08:08:28 PM » |
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My understanding is that all the Japanese Valks either came with reverse or it was an option. I've seen photos of them. Anybody on the board from SE Asia ?
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« Reply #32 on: May 28, 2014, 10:10:51 PM » |
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My understanding was that only the Japanese IS had reverse.
As for the GL1500 GW with reverse, there is a large "resistor" like item, or heat sink, for the reverse.
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« Reply #34 on: May 29, 2014, 06:55:07 AM » |
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I'm thinking about starting to gather up pieces for this mod from eBay. Looking at a parts fiche for the 1500 wing I can see the pieces, but I wonder if there is any detailed information out there that anyone is aware of ??
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« Reply #35 on: June 21, 2014, 12:40:38 PM » |
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Go to the VOAI site in tech section. Look up "reverse". In the second page towards the bottom, you'll find a reply from ClassicValk about what he did to achive this.
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« Reply #36 on: June 21, 2014, 03:05:03 PM » |
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Thanks firea100,, I checked it out,, informative.
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« Reply #37 on: June 21, 2014, 11:03:41 PM » |
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Maybe I ride to much but why would you put yourself into a spot that you need rev? I've parked downhill at rallies before and fellow bikers are always willing to push you back if needed. ??? I'm short legged and rarely set flat footed and never had much of a prob.
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« Reply #38 on: June 22, 2014, 03:45:11 PM » |
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I saw this the other day and was wondering what it was. Not the thing sitting on it, quite familiar with them. I'm talking about the lever above the passenger floorboard, I thought it looked like it might be a reverse. whooray and I just purchased that bike. When we get her home we will let you know. Or, you can see it at inzane. Raymond is picking the bike up in Min. And riding it to inzane. Then back to Idaho after that. I think it's just a folding passenger peg though. I had the flame bike at my house from April 20 till Raymond picked it up on June 6th. those are one of a kind passenger foot pegs that swing back and forth. made by the owner of the bike. ask NOGREY if he could take some photo's to post. T.P. |
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« Reply #39 on: June 22, 2014, 04:27:24 PM » |
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Maybe I ride to much but why would you put yourself into a spot that you need rev? I've parked downhill at rallies before and fellow bikers are always willing to push you back if needed. ??? I'm short legged and rarely set flat footed and never had much of a prob.
In my case, I just like the idea of it fudgie, and would do it just because it can be done, and it would be rare modification. That said, I have gotten myself into a tight position facing downhill more than once where it would have been useful, plus,,,,,, it is just COOL. |
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