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« on: April 20, 2014, 11:45:10 AM » |
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Was mounting a brand new Altimax tire on my son's VTX1300 and the tire bead blew apart at 60 psi when mounting the tire on the rim. Tire lube was used. I've NEVER had a tire blow apart like that before. I guess I need to call TireRack and see what they will do about it.
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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2014, 12:21:14 PM » |
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Wow hope nobody got hurt. 60 lb. doesn't seem like it would be enough to do that. Now I'm gonna be more careful doing mine.
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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2014, 03:06:02 PM » |
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Just fer enlightenment-what was the date of mfg on the tire. Having once worked in a tire shop 60 P S I is not excessive. Please let us know what you find out on this. Bead area is just about the stiffest portion of the tire. I hope no one had injuries due to this. RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2014, 04:37:01 PM » |
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Not starting anything here, But The warning on the side wall of my Altimax says never exceed 40 PSI when seating bead. I've mounted several on MC rims and never had to inflate over 30 PSI to seat them, Is the VTX wheel a different design?
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sawdustar
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« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2014, 05:36:15 PM » |
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Took off a Douglas 205/70-15 and it went on fine. It took about 60-70 PSI to seat it but it was no real problem. Nobody was hurt, just scared the pee-turkey out of us is all.  ??? |
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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2014, 07:12:37 PM » |
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Took off a Douglas 205/70-15 and it went on fine. It took about 60-70 PSI to seat it but it was no real problem. Nobody was hurt, just scared the pee-turkey out of us is all. ??? Boy I bet. I would had to throw my shorts away  |
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« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2014, 12:51:22 PM » |
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Not starting anything here, But The warning on the side wall of my Altimax says never exceed 40 PSI when seating bead. I've mounted several on MC rims and never had to inflate over 30 PSI to seat them, Is the VTX wheel a different design?
Indeed! I've noticed this on several tires lately, car and motorcycle. Just noticed it the other day on the side of a Metzeler front motorcycle tire, not to exceed 40 pounds to seat bead. From the amount of air pressure being used to pop the bead at most tire places you wouldn't think 60 lbs would be too much at all. |
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2014, 01:30:38 PM » |
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From the amount of air pressure being used to pop the bead at most tire places you wouldn't think 60 lbs would be too much at all.
Yeah, esp for a car tire.
Even though blown up, I would be looking that baby over very carefully for defects. Collect all small parts (if any), and look it all over.
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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2014, 05:56:02 AM » |
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We mount several tires a week. On occasion , the beads do not seat. We use a wax soap that is water based. This is the type used on truck and off road tires. If a bead sets on the lip before the seat , it will roll the tire sidewall and flex the tire. This causes an unusual bend in the sidewall. Some of the new M/C tires have a very stiff sidewall for run flat conditions. If a tire will not bead up by 40 or so PSI ,re-lube the tire and rim ( after letting the air out ) . Most everyone lubes the tire and not the rim. The little lip before the tire seat. You do not have to soak it , Just use a lube with a little staying power.
Straight liquid dish soap for the occasional tire changer will work fine.
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Skinhead
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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2014, 07:27:01 AM » |
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IMHO, 60 psi is way too high a pressure to seat a bead. I have mounted many CT's on Valk wheels and I have noticed that they are harder to get seated than a CT on a car wheel. I always use a clamp on chuck and kink the hose to stop air flow if I think it is getting too high, if so I let the air out, relube and try to center the tire on the wheel.
Lots of folks are injured seating tires, caution must be used.
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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2014, 12:28:28 PM » |
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TireRack says that it is an error in mounting the tire. So now I gotta buy my son another new rear tire. Funny how a tire gets mounted on a manual tire machine and it's my fault. I've mounted a LOT of tires and this is my first to ever blow the bead on a tire. I guess I won't buy from them again.
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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2014, 02:30:42 PM » |
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that's why the local indie shop no longer mounts car tires....same tire
blew up while they were trying to get it to seat. I think (not sure) there
were problems a few years ago with the Altimax.
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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2014, 02:38:46 PM » |
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Here's a pic of the tire.  |
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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2014, 05:26:09 PM » |
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Your lucky those Dynabeads didn't take an eye or two out.
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« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2014, 05:59:16 PM » |
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You might want to send that picture to Tirerack.....
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« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2014, 06:10:20 PM » |
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I just mounted one of thse for my bike... Hope it stays in one piece...
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sawdustar
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« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2014, 06:35:56 PM » |
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Picture has been sent via email to TireRack.
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« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2014, 08:23:15 PM » |
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Go to the source... send that picture to General Tire.
Seeing something like that, I'm sure they will want to make it right... or at a minimum, test the tire to see what caused it.
Things like that can cause BIG lawsuits.
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2014, 09:43:57 PM » |
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Crap!! That is way beyond Ride-On.
Good advice on the pics.
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