Little help please (oil filter)

[Jess from VA]

I need a filter (oil change) for trip Fri, and my cupboard is bare, and the dealer was out of the correct Honda filters (which is mostly all I have used, except for some K & N too long for my filter cover).

I am looking at this link - http://www.jkozloski.com/generic_parts.htm

I want a quality filter with Honda-like check valve and OE size to fit under a Cobra filter cover.

What auto parts generic fits that criteria?

Thanks in advance. 

[Ricky-D]

Search will reveal everything you want to know.

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[Bugslayer]

Purolator Pure One PL14610


Here's a cross reference for just about any bike out there.
 http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/FilterXRef.html

[Valkpilot]

I need a filter (oil change) for trip Fri, and my cupboard is bare, and the dealer was out of the correct Honda filters (which is mostly all I have used, except for some K & N too long for my filter cover).

I am looking at this link - http://www.jkozloski.com/generic_parts.htm

I want a quality filter with Honda-like check valve and OE size to fit under a Cobra filter cover.

What auto parts generic fits that criteria?

Thanks in advance.  

I've only used the Mobile 1 M110 that's listed on the generic parts page.  It has the bypass valve, but I believe it is too long for your filter cover.  However, since it is black, adding to your bike will make it faster, at least double your mileage, triple your horsepower, and cure baldness.

If you choose to forego these benefits and stick to a smaller OEM equivalent, and if you're an Amazon Prime member, you can have this puppy to your door by Thursday Friday (I slipped a day on my internal calendar): http://www.amazon.com/MAHLE-Original-OC-575-Filter/dp/B0068NQGKG/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1400705575&sr=8-6&keywords=valkyrie+oil+filter

[Valkpilot]

Purolator Pure One PL14610


Here's a cross reference for just about any bike out there.
 http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/FilterXRef.html

Good link.  It looks like the Mobile 1 M108 might be the right size to fit his filter cover.

[BF]

Jess......I use the Pure One filters. 

The PL14612 is about 2.5" long. 

The PL14610 is about 3.25" long. 

I have the Cobra ribbed filter billit cover also....however, the remembererrrr isn't working all that well at the moment and I don't remember if I currently have the 14610 or the 14612 on there now. 

[Jersey mike]

try Fram PH6017A

http://www.framcatalog.com/PartDetailWindow.aspx?b=F&pn=PH6017A

http://www.framcatalog.com/Application.aspx?b=F

[sandy]

try Fram PH6017A

http://www.framcatalog.com/PartDetailWindow.aspx?b=F&pn=PH6017A

http://www.framcatalog.com/Application.aspx?b=F

Fram is one of the worst filters made. Pure One is one of the best. PL14610 or PL14612

[Bill anderson]

Go to a Honda car dealer and get a filter for an 06 pilot. Half the price of a m'cycle filter and
a little larger so the bike will take a full 4 qts.

[Bone]

FRAM is a 4 letter word !

[Jersey mike]

I've been using only Fram filters for over 30 years and have never had a single oil/engine related problem.

I've used them in; my '86 Chevy Astro van put 185k on it before I got rid of it, Ford work vans from '78 351's thru current 5.4L, Ford pick ups too many to list 4.9, 5L, 5.4L, '85 Mazda pick up, 2 '83 Honda Goldwings, my '98 Valkyrie, Toyota Camrys (a '99 w/ 280k & a '02 w 125k) and my '68 Olds '98 w/ a 455 ci.

not sure what the problem could be but they have never let me down

[Jess from VA]

As I understand, Fram's have cardboard insides.

Thanks guys, off to auto parts in the AM.

[Mr.BubblesVRCCDS0008]

I too have used Fram for years without an oil related problem ever. I have a 1990 blazer with over 340,000 on it and Fram or a/c delco filters is all it has ever had on it. I think Fram is getting a bad rap. I have 175,000 on the valk and a fram 7317 on it right now. To each his own. I ran the ST 6017 until walmart quit carrying them.

[BF]

I too have used Fram for years without an oil related problem ever. I have a 1990 blazer with over 340,000 on it and Fram or a/c delco filters is all it has ever had on it. I think Fram is getting a bad rap. I have 175,000 on the valk and a fram 7317 on it right now. To each his own. I ran the ST 6017 until walmart quit carrying them.

That's exactly right.....to each their own. 

However, a little oil filter education goes a long way. 

http://www.tobycreek.org/oil_filters/fram.shtml

http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Filters.html

http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/FilterXRef.html

I use Pure One filters.   

[Chrisj CMA]

I've been using only Fram filters for over 30 years and have never had a single oil/engine related problem.

I've used them in; my '86 Chevy Astro van put 185k on it before I got rid of it, Ford work vans from '78 351's thru current 5.4L, Ford pick ups too many to list 4.9, 5L, 5.4L, '85 Mazda pick up, 2 '83 Honda Goldwings, my '98 Valkyrie, Toyota Camrys (a '99 w/ 280k & a '02 w 125k) and my '68 Olds '98 w/ a 455 ci.

not sure what the problem could be but they have never let me down

Some people use cheap dino oil and change it every 4 or 5 years or whenever its so black and thick that you have to add solvent to get it to drain and have never had a oil related failure.  Something tells me they will someday.

I agree with BF, if there is something better and its just as easy and affordable, it just seems silly to ignore it.  My experience is that as soon as I learn something, then I ignore it....thats when Murphy strikes.

To each their own

[Jersey mike]

Well it's difficult to argue opinions so I won't try to.

I will say this, as far as the recall from 1995, http://www.math.uwaterloo.ca/~rblander/FRAM_recall.html  well that's 19 years ago, so I won't say too much else about it other than recalls happen to many major companies, they address the trouble and move on.

As for the article  http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Filters.html  it does show the author did put in a good deal of time composing it. I have to say I have a great regard for engineers and the work they do and I'm a big fan of those who can understand numbers and scientific concepts far better than I can.  What I will say about the article is that the author admits to putting in (appx) whole 30 hours (1st paragraph) of research, compared to that of the years of R&D filter companies apply to their product(s).  Also In this article I find it curious the author feels it is better to disregard the recommendation from Purolator (the experts) to avoid using the PurOne filter for motorcycles, to use the recommended oil filter designated Putolator ML, and the author goes on to inject his own recommendation of to his readers that it's ok to use the PurOne, not based on any scientific data, but because they are imported.  Read excerpt below, copied and pasted from the above link.

"Purolator has recently posted this on their web page:"

"If you're thinking you want to install a PureONE oil filter on your bike, please think again. PureONE oil filters are designed for vehicles, not bikes. Because of PureONE's high efficiency, the motorcycle oil pump may not be able to handle the pressure. The Purolator motorcycle filter line is designed to meet the specific needs of a bike; therefore we highly recommend the use of a Purolator ML filter over a PureONE oil filter."


"My response: 1) I had no idea motorcycles weren't vehicles. I do wish they would inform the DMV, who keeps assessing me a motor vehicle tax and requiring me to get motor vehicle insurance. 2) The Purolator ML line of filters is made in China, imported, and rebranded to Purolator. That's your big clue about how much they love you and how carefully they engineer filters for your bike."


My experience w/ Fram filters has been excellent. In my current '99 Camry alone (that has 280K miles) I've replaced the filter over 80 times and have never had an issue and is the almost exactly the same dimension as the Valk filter.  It's been many many years since curiosity got the better of me to open up an oil filter to see what's inside, it wasn't that exciting back then and it still isn't today since there is no real world test to check the performance other than is there an issue happening or has happened.

Oil and filter service is a personal preference thing. I personally change my oil in my cars every 3k-3,500 miles, on my bike at least twice a season. For now I will stand by my 30 years (and the countless # of filters I've used) of using Fram and the 100's of thousands of miles of non issue service they have given me.

Finally, I have no affiliation to Fram, just a guy who changes his own oil, but as been said to each their own.

[Jess from VA]

Well thanks for the help again. 

Advance Auto had many of the available non-Honda filters, and I got a couple Pure One Purolator 14612.  It is sprayed with some kind of protectant like Line-X which should make it impervious to holing by a rock.  But it is in a nasty baby diarrhea mustard yellow.  I forgot I swapped filter covers between bikes, and my Harley shock-top chrome cover leaves about an 1/8" ring of mustard showing.... who cares.  The rough protectant coating made it a little harder getting the cover on, than over the usual smooth filter.

PowWow bound tomorrow.   

[Mr.BubblesVRCCDS0008]

I have 175,000 miles on my bike and I change my mobil 1 15X50 every 5 thousand miles. I think changing the oil is more important than the brand of filter you use. I did have a clutch problem at 160,000 I guess it was the mobil 1 oil that caused that to happen. Enough said

[Farther]

Go to a Honda car dealer and get a filter for an 06 pilot. Half the price of a m'cycle filter and
a little larger so the bike will take a full 4 qts.

+1, I think all Honda autos take the same filter.

[F6Dave]

I haven't used a Fram oil filter in years partially because I've read bad things about them, but also because I settled on the Pure One based on consistently high ratings.

However, I have used Fram air filters, and I've been disappointed.  When I replaced the tube-shaped filter on my old truck, the glue holding the plastic end cap on had deteriorated.  That allowed the cap to separate and left a large gap for unfiltered air to enter.  That was the last Fram I bought.

[Pappy!]

The article on Fram is an old one.
A few years ago Fram apparently decided that they had taken enough flak about their filters and went through a complete re-design process.
At this point they are pretty good filters again.
Fram used to get blasted over in the Jeep forums I went to.
Read this post by Jerry Bransford about his experience at the Fram facility.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/eating-crow-fram-oil-filters-my-visit-frams-r-d-facility-dayton-ohio-1261517/

[HayHauler]

Jess, I just trimmed a BudLight can and slipped it over the yellow filter.  Blue and silver, matches my bike.  

You can sort of see it in this pic.


Hay  
Jimmyt

[BF]

Jess, I just trimmed a BudLight can and slipped it over the yellow filter.  Blue and silver, matches my bike.  


Hay  
Jimmyt

Back when the bike was still a Red & White, I had a Budweiser can covering my Pure One oil filter. 

I work on an Air Force Base.  They check your I.D. card when you stop/enter. 

I usually don't have a problem with any of them, but every once in a while, I'll get some jackass that has nothing better to do that to screw with me.....and it's ALWAYs on the midnight shift when it happens.   

One night on the way in for midnight shift, I stopped at the gate....three or four guards standing around.  One checked my badge and said OK.

Put the bike in gear and started to go on my merry way......when one of the other guards jumped out in front of my bike and yelled HAULT. 

At that point, he whipped out his billy club and pointed it down towards the engine and says....."what's that?"

It took me a second or two to figure out what the heck he was talking about and then it dawned on my he's seriously asking about my Bud can......as if it's an open container or something.   

I told him I like my beer warm and I always keep one strapped to the motor. 

He didn't think that was too funny and continued to stand there with his billy club still pointed down at the engine. 

Figuring that this jackass was about to keep me there all night I then said that it's an oil filter cover and could take it off to show him if needed. 

He stood there for a couple more seconds, then said in a gruff voice...."proceed". 

It takes all kinds.   

[Bugslayer]

I had a Bud can on my filter, when a customer at work walked by my bike. He stared at the can for a second before he bent over and thumped it and said, "Dang! It's still full!"......... 

[weeder]

If you care about oil flowback  prevention you'll use Honda OEM or the Mobil 1 ,  if you don't care then use the Pure1  .

I think this is the bottom line on best oil filter to use.

The Pure1 fans never bring up flowback ,   

correct me if Im wrong --

[Bugslayer]

You're wrong... 

[Ken Tarver]

+1 Bill Anderson

[Ken Tarver]

My neighbor works at local Honda car dealer, he just brought me the 6 pilot filters I asked for a few days ago.....$25

That's good service, just bring them next door to me. I've been painting them silver to match the block in the past before installing. The last time though, made a "custom" filter.

Ken