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« on: June 12, 2014, 06:21:22 AM » |
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I have a 1997 Valk with clutch noise when you pull clutch handle in, grinding and growling sound goes away when you drop in gear or release clutch handle. Changed entire clutch Basket with lifter and bearing. Noise still persist sounds bad like gear clash or something grinding can feel pulses in clutch handle when pulling it in. help!!
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Valkorado
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« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2014, 06:53:54 AM » |
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Hmmm. The clutch will make a noise when disengaged so that sounds opposite of the norm. Someone with more knowledge will chime in. Scroll down to About Noises section here http://www.rattlebars.com/valkfaq/#TOP |
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« Last Edit: June 12, 2014, 07:03:34 AM by Valkorado »
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Ricky-D
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« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2014, 07:16:29 AM » |
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I have a 1997 Valk with clutch noise when you pull clutch handle in, grinding and growling sound goes away when you drop in gear or release clutch handle. Changed entire clutch Basket with lifter and bearing. Noise still persist sounds bad like gear clash or something grinding can feel pulses in clutch handle when pulling it in. help!!
These highlighted items are the important ones. I would say you have performed an incorrect service on the clutch and it needs to be redone properly. The noise is a non issue for now because it is a normal occurrence and a result of the transmission gears meshing. Attend to the clutch. *** |
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wisconsinvalk
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« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2014, 03:10:07 PM » |
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Clutch does make noise when you disengage or pull handle in, never did it before a long ride I took? Clutch works fine but when you pull clutch handle in (disengage) there is shudder vibe in clutch handle and noise from trans, goes away when you drop into gear or when cruising down the road locked up in gear, I rode it 3 hours home and had no problem just sounds loud at lights and when stopped with clutch disengaged in neutral, bike never did it before I took a 3 hour ride? Sounds like you guys think it is normal? seams weird to me.
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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2014, 04:04:46 PM » |
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Clutch does make noise when you disengage or pull handle in, never did it before a long ride I took? Clutch works fine but when you pull clutch handle in (disengage) there is shudder vibe in clutch handle and noise from trans, goes away when you drop into gear or when cruising down the road locked up in gear, I rode it 3 hours home and had no problem just sounds loud at lights and when stopped with clutch disengaged in neutral, bike never did it before I took a 3 hour ride? Sounds like you guys think it is normal? seams weird to me.
I wouldn't say it's normal. Sounds like a bad throw bearing in a car, but I don't think these have throw out bearings. |
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wisconsinvalk
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« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2014, 04:48:14 PM » |
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Exactly like a bad throwout bearing! Thanks for nailing description but it has all been replaced with new parts, noise is the same as old parts, when clutch is out if you push in and spin input shaft to trans by hand it sound the same as when it is running with clutch disengaged, you can feel it through the input shaft, feels like gears are touching or rubbing deep in trans? Honda dealer said shaft floats in there and is not retained except by the nut on the clutch hub? feels like to much end play on the input shaft of trans? But Honda dealer says no way to change that? Help, please someone has got to have an answer, I am afraid to ride on long trips this way.
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« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2014, 05:16:51 PM » |
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I've never worked on the Valkyrie clutch but if you put in new parts I would do as Ricky suggested and redo it.
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« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2014, 06:31:03 PM » |
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I have a similar problem with my 97 that has not been solved. Although I don't hear gears grinding I can feel my clutch lever jump every time I let of the throttle. I too have said that there is to much endplay in the transmission main shaft, I can move my inner basket about an 1/8 of an inch, and I believe that is what is causing my lever to jump.
How much free play do you have ? On the opposite end of the shaft from clutch basket is a bearing and bearing holder with a nut that is staked on just like on the clutch end. This is where I am going to look to see why I have all that end play.
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« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2014, 04:37:44 AM » |
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My 97 does the same thing, growling noise when in neutral, noise goes away once dropped in gear....I've rebuilt a couple of clutches in the past and figured that it's the small bearing on the rear of the transmission where the slave clutch is...the push rod from the slave cyclinder goes thru this bearing, so when you activate the clutch lever the push rod is causing the bearing to spin creating the noise...I haven't change the bearing yet, but this is my theory on what the noise is...it's the only thing that the clutch lever activates that can give you that sound..
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wisconsinvalk
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« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2014, 07:18:01 AM » |
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I found the problem, input shaft end play was the issue. However, the reason the noise was there was "clutch pack tolerance stack up" The pack was slightly worn not enough to slip but enough to cause gear clash deep in the transmission when the clutch was disengaged and the pack was pushed inward causing the input shaft to shift deep in the trans. A new set of clutch disks solved the problem, they were 3 thousands of an inch thicker than the worn ones, total stack up difference of 24 thousands on an inch. That difference prevents the gear clash and the bike is quiet when the clutch is disengaged. Note the old clutch disks were well within factory spec in the manual. So the summary is when the bikes make this noise replace clutch pack.
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« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2014, 04:20:06 PM » |
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Hey wisconsinvalk,, not having had to mess with my clutch yet, I'm wondering if you lifted the bike off the motor to do that work or if it was done with motor in place and if so how much of a hassle was the tight working area?
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wisconsinvalk
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« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2014, 06:10:30 PM » |
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Clutch cover can be easily serviced from under the bike, block bike up under the motor, drain oil first, remove kick stand, remove clutch slave, remove cover bolts, move drain lines out of way remove cover, clutch components are easily accessed once cover is off. takes about 20 minutes to pullcover  |
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« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2014, 09:12:59 AM » |
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Naturally, the important point is to have the bike securely raised and stabilized while
working around or under the bike. It would not do to have that bike fall on you.
It can kill you very easily.
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« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2021, 04:07:18 AM » |
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I'm having this same noise (light grinding sound when clutch lever is OUT in neutral. How much of what is in the picture do I need?  |
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« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2021, 06:48:44 PM » |
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The rattle sound with the clutch lever released is a normal Honda noise (basically all their big bikes) and has been for decades. A rattle with the clutch lever squeezed is a new one to me.
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