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garyheskett All 49 x 3 st.louis
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« on: July 10, 2014, 01:43:13 PM »

97 Standard, 137,000 miles.  I change the clutch fluid every two years.
Ok, about a month ago, as I pulled into the garage and pulled in the clutch lever, I heard a grinding noise that lasted only a few seconds and then all was normal.  I thought that one of the rivets on the damper plate sheared off.  But, I'm no mechanic and only came to this conclusion from reading the various posts here.   Well, last night I took the grandson to the Cardinals game and as I was leaving the clutch lever was real hard as I got close to the handlebar.  Then it became hard to shift.  I managed to limp the bike home.When I pull the lever all the way to the handlebar it makes a grinding noise. Unfortunately I am search impaired as well as computer impaired. I did try and search, but could somebody put a "link" for replacing a clutch for me.  Or tell me what they think is the problem is.  I hate to take it somewhere to get it fixed, they may not do it right. I'm not to concerned about costs, as long as its apart might as well replace whatever. I'm willing to give it a try, but definitely need help.  Thanks guys.
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twdurdentwd
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« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2014, 01:52:24 PM »

I don't have a link for you, but be prepared to spend a lot of time on it.because accessing the clutch means removing the motor. One thing Honda did correctly was designed the frame so that part of the frame is removable... Which makes it easier..but I will tell you from experience, "easier" is a relative term.
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3W-lonerider
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« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2014, 02:23:01 PM »

motor does not need to be removed to replace a clutch. and it can be done in around 4 to 6 hours depending on your skill level.
I'm at work right now if someone doesn't beat me to it i'll look up the link for clutch job when I get home.
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« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2014, 02:49:14 PM »

Hey Gary,

As luck has it...I know someone who has replaced their clutch that lives pretty close to you...yeah...that would be me.  It isn't too lengthy of a project but does require tearing the bike apart a little.  Nothing that can't be handled in several hours.  Give me a call and we can talk about parts needed and schedule a time to get it done. 

Joe
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garyheskett All 49 x 3 st.louis
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« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2014, 04:35:16 PM »

hey Joe,   Wow, you saved me!!!  Took a big worry off my mind.  I got a new phone two months ago, an Apple i-phone (that I also don't know how to use), and I somehow don't have your number, but I sent you an e-mail.  I need to join this century and learn how to use all this technology, but I really just can't get into it.
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« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2014, 05:49:08 PM »

I replaced the clutch on my '98 Tourer 3 years ago.  Below are some suggestions with pictures I posted at the time:

After many months I finally got around to replacing the clutch on my ’98 Tourer.  As some others have experienced, the rivets in the damper plate failed.  This is not uncommon on some high mileage Valks.

The job took several hours, but was not difficult at all.  Getting the center plastic cover off was more of a PITA than any of the other work.  Clearance isn’t as good as in a bike with a more typical transversely mounted engine, but once you have it on a lift with a few pieces removed (I didn’t even remove the tank) there is plenty of clearance to remove the rear cover and clutch center pack without any special tools (not even a wobble joint for your ratchet).

Here are of a couple of things I learned:

I’d read that the disk alignment must nearly perfect or the compressed clutch center pack will not fit back into the basket.  I used a couple of large washers and a spring in 2 places to hold the pack together with some light pressure.  This allowed me to align the disks in the basket, and keep them aligned when I compressed the diaphragm spring and replaced the circlip.



Speaking of compressing the spring, I made a simple tool out of a 2x4, long bolt, a plastic pipe fitting, and an old lawnmower blade.  I knew that blade would come in handy one day!  This allowed me to use straight tips on the circlip pliers which seem to work better than 90 or 45 degree tips.



While I used an impact wrench to remove the big clutch nut, I wanted to torque the new one to the Honda spec.  Here’s a simple clutch holder tool I made from another 2x4.


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Mr.BubblesVRCCDS0008
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« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2014, 09:45:24 PM »

Did mine in the garage on the jack in about four hours. Not easy but not really hard either. It does sound like rivets came apart. Mine went out in one day at 160,000 miles.
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twdurdentwd
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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2014, 10:58:32 AM »

motor does not need to be removed to replace a clutch. and it can be done in around 4 to 6 hours depending on your skill level.
I'm at work right now if someone doesn't beat me to it i'll look up the link for clutch job when I get home.
I replaced the clutch on my '98 Tourer 3 years ago.  Below are some suggestions with pictures I posted at the time:




DOES THIS MEAN YOU CAN REPLACE THE REAR CASE AND STARTER IDLE GEAR W/O REMOVING ENGINE??  coolsmiley  uglystupid2  Cry Cry
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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2014, 11:06:06 AM »

Here's another writeup that might help: http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,20870.0.html
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« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2014, 12:19:46 PM »

motor does not need to be removed to replace a clutch. and it can be done in around 4 to 6 hours depending on your skill level.
I'm at work right now if someone doesn't beat me to it i'll look up the link for clutch job when I get home.
I replaced the clutch on my '98 Tourer 3 years ago.  Below are some suggestions with pictures I posted at the time:




DOES THIS MEAN YOU CAN REPLACE THE REAR CASE AND STARTER IDLE GEAR W/O REMOVING ENGINE??  coolsmiley  uglystupid2  Cry Cry

no you can't. but when just doing the clutch the whole rear case does not need to come off. just the middle case that houses the clutch assembly.
theres like 8 to 10 bolts around it ad the slave once they are off your looking right at the clutch.
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