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« on: July 30, 2014, 10:49:21 AM » |
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In prep' for Sturgis, I just completed an oil change. Amsoil 20W/50 Full Synthetic; stock oil filter. I ran my engine hot, leveled the bike, loosened the oil filler cap and dip stick, then pulled the drain plug and oil filter. Drained overnight.
Next morning I put on a new filter, replaced the drain plug and filled her up with 4Qts. Traditionally, 4Qts puts me right at the FULL mark on the dip stick, done. This time I'm about 1-2mm over the FULL mark on the dip stick.
Do I need to train a couple of ounces, or am I OK?
Thanks in advance for your any feedback or personal experiences you can share.
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Patrick
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« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2014, 10:56:46 AM » |
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So what is 2mm ? About 1/16" ? I don't think I'd worry about that.
An engine shouldn't be run overfilled, but, 1/16" shouldn't bother.
If you're worried about it, just loosen the filter and let some out.
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salty1
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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2014, 11:40:28 AM » |
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Not an issue IMO. I and many others add 4 qts with an oil and filter change. I believe the service manual calls for 3.9.
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« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2014, 11:47:52 AM » |
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3.9 nothing more or less!
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Patrick
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« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2014, 11:51:42 AM » |
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3.9 nothing more or less!
Even if you drain more than that out ? |
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2014, 12:01:27 PM » |
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I believe you are proving the warning I posted in Oct that we really cannot trust the volume in these oil containers to be perfectly right on and consistent. That's why I use a measured funnel and then I know Im putting in 4 qts. Ya I know about the 3.9 thing......140K miles I haven blown anything yet.
I agree you are fine at that much over, but next time if you want to be sure.....measure it in
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Gryphon Rider
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« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2014, 12:19:37 PM » |
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I wouldn't worry a bit.
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2014, 12:21:16 PM » |
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You didn't say if you ran the engine for a few minutes prior to checking the oil level. When I replace the oil and filter, I always fill the filter before putting it on, then add the rest of 4 qts. to the crankcase. Next, run the engine for a few minutes to let it work completely through the system, shut it off and let sit while you clean up the area. Now, put the bike upright and check the dipstick without screwing it in. I've never been "over" on a refill.
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« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2014, 12:52:56 PM » |
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I did that and decided that little bit over wouldn't hurt but then she started smoking out of the left pipe after sitting on the kickstand.It would stop smoking after riding a few min.
I drained to just below the top mark and it stopped
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« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2014, 02:24:00 PM » |
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I've always just put 4 qts in and never had any smoke or issues.
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« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2014, 02:40:26 PM » |
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Did my 98 Tourer yesterday. Poured in the full gallon of Rotella.
Started the bike no leaks filter should be filled mark on the stick was ok.
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« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2014, 02:41:55 PM » |
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If you drain it well and dump in a gallon.........it doesn't really matter what the dipstick reads (especially if you have an aftermarket adjustable one). In fact I haven't seen my dipstick in a long time. If there is no oil on the floor when I go to ride the bike........I just assume its all still inside. 6-7K miles later I drain it and yep a gallon out and another gallon in. Cant get more simple than that.
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« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2014, 02:45:52 PM » |
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A full gallon of Rotella, puts me right on the OE dip mark every time.
(I do a better job draining than I used to.... about 1/10 of a qt better).
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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2014, 03:34:31 AM » |
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Yes, of course; after I changed the oil I always run the engine for 3 min., let it sit for 3 min. and then check the oil level.
I think what I'm hearing is if I'm a little over the FULL mark on the dipstick, I'm fine.
Thanks for the feedback, it is a gift. See you in Sturgis
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« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2014, 05:10:36 AM » |
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You didn't say if you ran the engine for a few minutes prior to checking the oil level. When I replace the oil and filter, I always fill the filter before putting it on, then add the rest of 4 qts. to the crankcase. Next, run the engine for a few minutes to let it work completely through the system, shut it off and let sit while you clean up the area. Now, put the bike upright and check the dipstick without screwing it in. I've never been "over" on a refill.
How do you keep the oil in the filter on the Valk? It goes on horizontal, and the oil runs out while you are threading it on. MP |
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« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2014, 06:41:46 AM » |
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You didn't say if you ran the engine for a few minutes prior to checking the oil level. When I replace the oil and filter, I always fill the filter before putting it on, then add the rest of 4 qts. to the crankcase. Next, run the engine for a few minutes to let it work completely through the system, shut it off and let sit while you clean up the area. Now, put the bike upright and check the dipstick without screwing it in. I've never been "over" on a refill.
How do you keep the oil in the filter on the Valk? It goes on horizontal, and the oil runs out while you are threading it on. MP I was wondering the same thing. I've always put 4 quarts in - no problems. I do know of one local rider who put in 8 quarts one time - it only ran on 5 cylinders. So he bought a new engine. When he drained the old engine before pulling it out of the frame, he found out about the 8 quarts. Put 4 back in and it ran well. So he had a spare engine for a while. His handle then became "dipstick". |
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« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2014, 08:16:19 AM » |
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Drain 4 out. Change filter. Put 4 in. Check it? Hmmm....maybe twice or perhaps 3 times in 200,000 miles..  |
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« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2014, 08:28:11 AM » |
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Drain 4 out. Change filter. Put 4 in. Check it? Hmmm....maybe twice or perhaps 3 times in 200,000 miles.. lol....exactly. Just park the bike somewhere NOT on an oil spot (like in the family room). Look under the motor before you ride....no oil...good to go |
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« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2014, 02:06:29 PM » |
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Drain 4 out. Change filter. Put 4 in. Check it? Hmmm....maybe twice or perhaps 3 times in 200,000 miles.. lol....exactly. Just park the bike somewhere NOT on an oil spot (like in the family room). Look under the motor before you ride....no oil...good to go Only one person I know of that has their phat gurl in the "family room" of their house.... Hay  Jimmyt |
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« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2014, 02:55:25 PM » |
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Drain 4 out. Change filter. Put 4 in. Check it? Hmmm....maybe twice or perhaps 3 times in 200,000 miles.. lol....exactly. Just park the bike somewhere NOT on an oil spot (like in the family room). Look under the motor before you ride....no oil...good to go Only one person I know of that has their phat gurl in the "family room" of their house.... Hay Jimmyt Plus, he gets to work on it in the A/C. |
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« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2014, 04:56:39 AM » |
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Plus, he gets to work on it in the A/C. Smiley  I miss having the TV in the family room, I used to sit on the bike to watch the Sunday afternoon superbike races. No, I didn't make engine sounds, but yes, I did try to lean into the curves |
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« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2014, 03:55:50 PM » |
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You didn't say if you ran the engine for a few minutes prior to checking the oil level. When I replace the oil and filter, I always fill the filter before putting it on, then add the rest of 4 qts. to the crankcase. Next, run the engine for a few minutes to let it work completely through the system, shut it off and let sit while you clean up the area. Now, put the bike upright and check the dipstick without screwing it in. I've never been "over" on a refill.
How do you keep the oil in the filter on the Valk? It goes on horizontal, and the oil runs out while you are threading it on. MP I also do it the same way as John and ... yes .... filter in horizontally ... and oil doesn't run out while threading in the filter. Note: I do not fill it completely ... about 1/4 inch from the top. |
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