Fallen Valkyrie Won't engage starter.

[snakemeister]

  A hard wind caused my '97 Tourer to fall over today and it lay there over an hour before I found it.
After I picked it up the starter wouldn't engage.I suspect that the pendulum switch is stuck.Anyone have any experience with this?

[Mr.BubblesVRCCDS0008]

Try turning the key on and off a couple of times to reset the bank angle switch. Also check the red shutdown switch on the right handlebar. Make sure bike is in neutral and kickstand is down al the way.

[Michvalk]

Laying on it's side could have caused a hydrolock. Does it click or do anything when you push the starter button? You may have to pull the sparkplugs and spin the motor to clear the motor. If it is hydrolocked, fuel will spray out of the plug holes. Try putting the bike in gear, and roll backwards, or foreward to see if the motor will roll. Could look up Hydrolock with the search function to learn more

[Bighead]

Musta been some wind ???

[snakemeister]

 It was a freaky wind that came out of nowhere unexpectedly and actually  blew some trees down.My Valkyrie was sitting in my front yard and I was not home when it happened.My wife called me and told me it was down.The bike was resting on the handle bar and valve cover for over an hour before I got home and got it up.
  All the lights work and when you press the starter button the headlights go off but the starter won't engage.

[snakemeister]

  Well guys; I just went out and hit the starter button and it started right up! I guess that pendulum switch was stuck and after sitting upright all night fell back into place.I don't think I had hydrolock as I couldn't hear the starter do anything when it wouldn't engage.

[Michvalk]

Bike in gear? Sidestand down? What side did it go down on. Check the kill switch (flip it back and forth).

[Mike in AR]

I have always heard that if your bike has been over, that you had to cycle the kill switch , off and then back on, before the bike would start. Just a thought.

[twdurdentwd]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the valk starter is not one of the ones that throws out the gear when starting...it's splined into the female starter drive gear...so if nothing happened, it had to be the kill switch on the handle bar  ???

[gordonv]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the valk starter is not one of the ones that throws out the gear when starting...it's splined into the female starter drive gear...so if nothing happened, it had to be the kill switch on the handle bar  ???

I would us the words ratcheted. Gears are meshed, and turns freely one why, and the engine the other way.

As for the electricity, it can be a few different items, but I thought he wrote the bike was working again. Sounds more like it was the tip over switch.

[sequoia]

  I'm glad I read his post. I'm so new at the honda game I wouldn't have even known the stupid kickstand had to be down to start it?....   Duhhhh!

[Bighead]

I'm glad I read his post. I'm so new at the honda game I wouldn't have even known the stupid kickstand had to be down to start it?....   Duhhhh!

FYI the kickstand don't have to be down to start the bike.

[twdurdentwd]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the valk starter is not one of the ones that throws out the gear when starting...it's splined into the female starter drive gear...so if nothing happened, it had to be the kill switch on the handle bar  ???

I would us the words ratcheted. Gears are meshed, and turns freely one why, and the engine the other way.

As for the electricity, it can be a few different items, but I thought he wrote the bike was working again. Sounds more like it was the tip over switch.

Oh there's such a switch? Genius.

[Bighead]

I am not the one who posted it but yes there is it is a bank angle sensor. Mounted behind the center cover.

[twdurdentwd]

I'm glad I read his post. I'm so new at the honda game I wouldn't have even known the stupid kickstand had to be down to start it?....   Duhhhh!

If it's in neutral, kickstand can be down and started without depressing clutch. If it's not, kickstand has to be up and started while depressing clutch . red switch on of course

[twdurdentwd]

I am not the one who posted it but yes there is it is a bank angle sensor. Mounted behind the center cover.

I wonder if it's a "jolting " bank that breaks the circuit or for example, if you purposefully have the bike in a steep bank while accidentally taking a bend too fast.... I've had the passenger tell me her peg touched the ground.

[Bighead]

I think it has to fall over so that would be a pretty severe degree of angle and you cannot attain that while the rubber is still on the ground.
And a passenger peg dragging ? I would have to see it .

[gordonv]

I believe the angle is such that the bag guards make contact with the ground, to make it "trip".

The idea is that if the bike falls over while running, the power is killed to the engine so the fuel will stop flowing or the bike still driving.

[97Valk_CT_Euless]

Not pertinent to the question, but the bank angle sensor will never experience a tilt during normal riding (at least not much of one).  The G-Force on the bike MUST be from the GC perpendicular to a line between the contact points of the front and rear tires.  If it isn't, the bike falls over.  No matter how far you're leaning in a turn.  If it weren't, you'd be falling or flipping.  the only time the bike will normally experience forces otherwise is when you're putting it into the turn with counter-steer or lean.  It's physics.

[Cracker Jack]

Not pertinent to the question, but the bank angle sensor will never experience a tilt during normal riding (at least not much of one).  The G-Force on the bike MUST be from the GC perpendicular to a line between the contact points of the front and rear tires.  If it isn't, the bike falls over.  No matter how far you're leaning in a turn.  If it weren't, you'd be falling or flipping.  the only time the bike will normally experience forces otherwise is when you're putting it into the turn with counter-steer or lean.  It's physics.

I thought all turns were initiated with either counter-steer or lean. Over 99 44/100 percent being with counter-steer. Is there any other way? Maybe unlevel terrain?

[deadwood]

Musta been some wind ???

I was on a BWM 1200 in Tierra del Fuego last fall. Had the bike on the side stand and the wind was coming from the rear. Blew it forward and knocked it down. Talked to two other people who were blown off the road and another who had his on the side stand with the wind blowing right to left. It broke the kickstand and knocked it down.

A few days later I was following an 18 wheeler on Ruta 40 trying to pass him in a cross wind. After I saw his rear wheels come off the ground twice from the gusts I decided I didn't need to pass him that bad!

That was the most windy place I've ever been on a motorcycle.

[97Valk_CT_Euless]

I thought all turns were initiated with either counter-steer or lean. Over 99 44/100 percent being with counter-steer. Is there any other way? Maybe unlevel terrain?

Cute. 
Putting it INTO the turn.  Point was how far into the turn you are has no bearing on the tilt sensor.  How fast you put it there is the only thing that would.  You bank one over fast enough to trip the tilt sensor and you'll never know it because you'll be a pancake sliding off the highway.  But you could turn hard enough to scrape the whole side of the bike and never trip the tilt sensor.