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This Spring I will retire and I am planning a cross country ride from Northern California (the State of Jefferson) to Andersonville National Cemetery in Georgia by way of Northern Minnesota to pick up my older brother.
In preparation for the trip I will be changing all the fluids on my low mileage '03 Standard, including brake, clutch, antifreeze, crankcase and differential. New Hondaline brake shoes will replace the current noisy EBC ones. The rear shock bushings are already the VTX poly models. I'm going to have my mechanic look at the headset and swing arm bearings. There are new Avons on the bike along with the spline maintenance (for the record, I don't like the Avons as well as the Metzgers). I like to keep my tire pressure at 45 # both ends. New, permanent, 90 degree, machined aluminum, valve stems have been installed for a couple of years now. A few years back I installed Interstate carb springs and an Interstate ICM. A belly tank has been on the bike since 2010 so the petcock is not an issue. I will be riding solo and camping so there will be the weight of the camping gear but it won't exceed the weight of a second person.
What, if anything, else should I be checking?
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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2015, 09:15:07 AM » |
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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2015, 09:20:49 AM » |
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Ya, the weather is always a crap shoot. I rode to eastern South Dakota in 2010 for my 40th high school reunion and had excellent weather if you don't count 103 temperatures. There will be a rain suit in my kit but what bike prep do you recommend?
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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2015, 09:23:45 AM » |
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Weather is a definite item to keep your eye on. Several places between here and there that can snowy in the spring.
Big thing is there are a lot of roads and sites you probably have not seen. Take your time and enjoy the trip.
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I do at least one 500-1500 mile trip each month for work, along with commuting 100 miles each day and a couple big trips with the wife each summer. Assuming the usual suspects are dealt with b4 you leave (and I think you have them covered), two words sum up my biggest concerns on road trips: flat tires. After several "learning experiences" roadside, I now carry 3 solutions - and have used them all - at one time, simultaneously! 1. A can of auto size (NOT beer can size) "spare tire in a can". For a small leak, these have enough "goop" type stuff inside, and enough air behind it to get you off the road and into town. 2. A reliable 12V air compressor. I've tried about 4 different flavors, and have settled on this:  Several folks sell them; also suggest the in-line pressure guage. Unless you have already, need to install a 12V poweroutlet with good sized (12g) wires direct to the battery. 3. A well designed, hand gun type tire plugger. This forces the plug into the hole. Like this one:  I carry the air compressor, gauge, a 10' extension cord (have filled a few friends tires), the tire plugger gun/tools/plugs all in a small Pelican case EVERYWHERE I go. A couple summers ago I had a rear flat on I10 maybe 30 miles outside Van Horn TX (no cell phone service), apparently caused by a truck tire shard; the MAIN reason I will not ride in TX after dark. Left a jagged hole that took 3 plugs, the goop, and the air comp together to limp into Van Horn just after dark. The hole was leaking so bad I could only go about 2 miles before I had to stop and fill the tire up; again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, etc.. I was worried about running the battery down, so during filling the tire I would keep the rpm up on the bike. Could only run about 5 MPH on the shoulder of the freeway, with traffic zipping by doing 80-85 three feet away... But if I had not had all three of those items, I'd still be walking... Oh, If you have not already, know how to use a couple screwdrivers to short around your starting relay. Sounds like a fun trip. You gonna ride the Loneliest Hiway in America? |
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« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2015, 11:06:42 AM » |
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Sounds like you've got everything covered pretty good. Congratulations on the retirement. (Always wondered where you were from) |
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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2015, 11:28:55 AM » |
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The only other thing I can think of would be to pull the seat and side covers and do a general cleanup inspection/dielectric grease of wiring/battery and connections and that pesky starter relay plug that people post pics of burning up. Maybe put in all new fuses, and maybe new bright bulbs in tail and signals. How old will the battery be when you leave?
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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2015, 12:09:26 PM » |
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Sounds like a good trip Farther,, have fun. Wow,, Andersonville cemetary,, now that's a destination!
Personally I wouldn't worry too much about the bike, it can be over done,, I'd be more concerned about the mechanic tearing into the swing arm and head than the bearings themselves. I mean, how many miles will you log before getting back home 8K 12K ?? I would be prepared for flats like pago suggested, have my compliment of tools, enough money for an emergency, thank the Lord and hit the road.
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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2015, 01:21:02 PM » |
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besides the weather I woul;d check the Voltage on the battery but other than that sounds like you got her covered |
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Camelback makes several 100 OZ bladders for water. I have one that I strap onto the luggage bag. Extend the tube so you can drink while you're moving. Dehydration can be rough if you're many miles out of town. Hint: The lunch time waitress can be "smiled" into refilling with ice and water.
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« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2015, 03:59:13 PM » |
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I do at least one 500-1500 mile trip each month for work, along with commuting 100 miles each day and a couple big trips with the wife each summer. Assuming the usual suspects are dealt with b4 you leave (and I think you have them covered), two words sum up my biggest concerns on road trips: flat tires. After several "learning experiences" roadside, I now carry 3 solutions - and have used them all - at one time, simultaneously! 1. A can of auto size (NOT beer can size) "spare tire in a can". For a small leak, these have enough "goop" type stuff inside, and enough air behind it to get you off the road and into town. 2. A reliable 12V air compressor. I've tried about 4 different flavors, and have settled on this: Several folks sell them; also suggest the in-line pressure guage. Unless you have already, need to install a 12V poweroutlet with good sized (12g) wires direct to the battery. 3. A well designed, hand gun type tire plugger. This forces the plug into the hole. Like this one: I carry the air compressor, gauge, a 10' extension cord (have filled a few friends tires), the tire plugger gun/tools/plugs all in a small Pelican case EVERYWHERE I go. A couple summers ago I had a rear flat on I10 maybe 30 miles outside Van Horn TX (no cell phone service), apparently caused by a truck tire shard; the MAIN reason I will not ride in TX after dark. Left a jagged hole that took 3 plugs, the goop, and the air comp together to limp into Van Horn just after dark. The hole was leaking so bad I could only go about 2 miles before I had to stop and fill the tire up; again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, etc.. I was worried about running the battery down, so during filling the tire I would keep the rpm up on the bike. Could only run about 5 MPH on the shoulder of the freeway, with traffic zipping by doing 80-85 three feet away... But if I had not had all three of those items, I'd still be walking... Oh, If you have not already, know how to use a couple screwdrivers to short around your starting relay. Sounds like a fun trip. You gonna ride the Loneliest Hiway in America? Does anybody have an opinion about those CO2 tire inflators? I carry two of those with me, and the manufacturer claims they will fill a motorcycle tire. Thinking about buying a small compressor, but $100 is a lot right now and I'm not planning a long trip anytime soon. |
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« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2015, 04:32:29 PM » |
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you can get a smal tire compressor at any auto parts store for about $25 I have one that used to stay in the jeep when I had it. It is slow but will inflate a car tire to 40 psi.
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« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2015, 11:20:34 PM » |
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My biggest concern on trips, ALTERNATOR.
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« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2015, 09:59:42 AM » |
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Good suggestion on battery and light bulbs. Both are on my list. I will be carrying a tire repair kit with plugs and CO2 cartridges and I have a tire compressor from my Miata roadster too. Ride-On has been in the tires for about five years now. I am less concerned about what to take than the pre-trip bike maintenance and was hoping that this thread could stay on topic of bike prep and not what to take.
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I am less concerned about what to take than the pre-trip bike maintenance and was hoping that this thread could stay on topic of bike prep and not what to take.
OK. Without reading all the posts again, to see what has been said or not, I think there is nothing other than regular maintenance that requires to be done. The other things about insuring that the tires will last, the oil change, and any other maintenance that might hit while on the road is done before you leave. Then there is maybe cleaning the starter and the alternator. Something most of us should do anyways. So that they are failure free. |
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« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2015, 03:34:03 PM » |
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« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2015, 05:38:24 PM » |
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I'm still a little old school when it comes to emergency communications so I keep a hand held CB radio with me. They don't have the long range on a traditional CB but having access to CH9 is important and the one I have has a weather band also.
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« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2015, 06:59:51 PM » |
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How many miles on your bike? Over 60000 miles yes an alternator may be good to carry. When out in the middle of nowhere is a good time for it go out. Steering head and swing arm bearings should be good for 100000 + miles. Checking the rear drive and wheel bearings is a must. Carrying extra wheel bearings is easy and recommended. I put 150000 miles on my standard before changing steering head bearings and even then they felt and looked good. Good luck on that trip, wish I was doing it.
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« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2015, 07:51:55 PM » |
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Two of each fuse that the bike uses, including the big charge link from the alternator.
Tool kit with duct and electrical tape.
Some kind of handlebar or engine mounted cup holder to keep water handy.
It seems that the more you have prepared for the less goes wrong. Have a great trip.
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I would inspect and re-lub the drive shaft and pinion cup too.
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« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2015, 01:34:54 PM » |
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Two of each fuse that the bike uses, including the big charge link from the alternator.
Tool kit with duct and electrical tape.
Some kind of handlebar or engine mounted cup holder to keep water handy.
It seems that the more you have prepared for the less goes wrong. Have a great trip.
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This is true, but Murphy's law says the thing that you didn't prepare for – that's what breaks! And reality is you can't cover every potential failure, so the question is is there a good way to get towing (assuming you have cell phone service or some means of communication), like AAA or whatever for automobile drivers? I know a lot of people use their auto insurance company for towing, but in Washington state I'm not required to have motorcycle insurance so I don't have any, and I'm wondering if there's a another way to have towing for a big bike anywhere in the country, should I need it. |
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Two of each fuse that the bike uses, including the big charge link from the alternator.
Tool kit with duct and electrical tape.
Some kind of handlebar or engine mounted cup holder to keep water handy.
It seems that the more you have prepared for the less goes wrong. Have a great trip.
Fred.
This is true, but Murphy's law says the thing that you didn't prepare for – that's what breaks! And reality is you can't cover every potential failure, so the question is is there a good way to get towing (assuming you have cell phone service or some means of communication), like AAA or whatever for automobile drivers? I know a lot of people use their auto insurance company for towing, but in Washington state I'm not required to have motorcycle insurance so I don't have any, and I'm wondering if there's a another way to have towing for a big bike anywhere in the country, should I need it. I think an AMA membership covers towing. |
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I don't have AAA insurance but have them for roadside service. It's been invaluable and since I have the RV Plus subscription, They'll tow my car, trailer or motorcycle.
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This is were I'll give a little plug for the GWRRA (and Valkyrie) and Road Side Plus.
The extended Plus insurance will cover towing to 100 miles. Also covers the whole family (who ever you register). I get my Goldwing Assoc. membership and the roadside assistance for $80 a year for the family. I was paying over $100 a year for CAA (AAA, BCAA) just for one person, and the motorcycle coverage was another $40.
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If you happen to come through St. Louis on your way south from Minnesota, you are welcome to spend the night at my house. Have a couple extra bedrooms, garage, wash the bike, even minor repair work. I've been retired a few years now---couldn't be better. Took 7 motorcycle trips last summer.
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I don't have AAA insurance but have them for roadside service. It's been invaluable and since I have the RV Plus subscription, They'll tow my car, trailer or motorcycle.
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You may have to upgrade to the RV Plus to get that.
They towed my bike home a couple of months ago when I got a flat tire at work.
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« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2015, 04:01:33 PM » |
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In my opinion you guys worry about waaaaayy to much stuff happening on a long trip. I rode to California and to Nova Scotia last year and didnt take anything extra from what I would have taken on a day trip from home. Do Motorcycles break yes, but if all you are thinking about is breaking down why not fly or trailer your bike. There is waaaaaaaay tooo much overthinking going on in this thread. I would walk out in my Garage right now and ride where ever anyone wanted and only check the tire pressure before leaving. Oh and I would have FUN doing it  |
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« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2015, 04:29:47 PM » |
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Two of each fuse that the bike uses, including the big charge link from the alternator.
Tool kit with duct and electrical tape.
Some kind of handlebar or engine mounted cup holder to keep water handy.
It seems that the more you have prepared for the less goes wrong. Have a great trip.
Fred.
This is true, but Murphy's law says the thing that you didn't prepare for – that's what breaks! And reality is you can't cover every potential failure, so the question is is there a good way to get towing (assuming you have cell phone service or some means of communication), like AAA or whatever for automobile drivers? I know a lot of people use their auto insurance company for towing, but in Washington state I'm not required to have motorcycle insurance so I don't have any, and I'm wondering if there's a another way to have towing for a big bike anywhere in the country, should I need it. I think an AMA membership covers towing. I have AMA. Never have needed it. It's free if you set up your membership to auto renew yearly, as I recall. |
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If you happen to come through St. Louis on your way south from Minnesota, you are welcome to spend the night at my house. Have a couple extra bedrooms, garage, wash the bike, even minor repair work. I've been retired a few years now---couldn't be better. Took 7 motorcycle trips last summer.
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Two of each fuse that the bike uses, including the big charge link from the alternator.
Tool kit with duct and electrical tape.
Some kind of handlebar or engine mounted cup holder to keep water handy.
It seems that the more you have prepared for the less goes wrong. Have a great trip.
Fred.
This is true, but Murphy's law says the thing that you didn't prepare for – that's what breaks! And reality is you can't cover every potential failure, so the question is is there a good way to get towing (assuming you have cell phone service or some means of communication), like AAA or whatever for automobile drivers? I know a lot of people use their auto insurance company for towing, but in Washington state I'm not required to have motorcycle insurance so I don't have any, and I'm wondering if there's a another way to have towing for a big bike anywhere in the country, should I need it. I think an AMA membership covers towing. I have AMA. Never have needed it. It's free if you set up your membership to auto renew yearly, as I recall. Okay, thanks for that tip about AMA. I will check into it. And again I think that just having something set up for towing (and on a long trip maybe even from way out in the boonies), will give you the peace of mind that while okay maybe you didn't overhaul the whole bike, but you did the basic maintenance, and if something breaks it breaks. Deal with it if and when it happens. Like a lot of people are saying do your due diligence to prepare, and then just enjoy the trip! And of course post your pics when you get back  |
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I have stock rotors. The dealer only carry EBC so I will have to ordere the Hondaline pads.
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I don't have AAA insurance but have them for roadside service. It's been invaluable and since I have the RV Plus subscription, They'll tow my car, trailer or motorcycle.
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Probably the best advice I have gotten so far is to take half the crap you think you need and twice the money.
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Probably the best advice I have gotten so far is to take half the crap you think you need and twice the money.
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I would inspect and re-lub the drive shaft and pinion cup too.
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 I've seen alot of people that thought they were cool , but then again Lord I've seen alot of fools. |
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