Cell Phone Selfie

[dreamaker]

What is wrong with people!!! Here is a in plane crash due to taking selfies, one of my backgrounds is I am a photographer.  And one thing I have never understood, is people taking pictures of themselves on a trip, and then showing everybody. My question is: are proving that they were at certain places, so they take pictures to prove they were not lying. I can see taking pics. of places, but not with themselves or their vehicles in the pic. What is the point?? Art is one thing, Memories for themselves is an other thing, other than that I don't understand it.



http://wowway.net/tv/3/player/vendor/GeoBeats/player/fiveminute/asset/geobeats-selfies_contributed_to_fatal_plane_crash-5min

[hubcapsc]

I think pictures of places are boring without Valkyries and people from the VRCC in them...

-Mike

[Whooray]

What is wrong with people!!! Here is a in plane crash due to taking selfies, one of my backgrounds is I am a photographer.  And one thing I have never understood, is people taking pictures of themselves on a trip, and then showing everybody. My question is: are proving that they were at certain places, so they take pictures to prove they were not lying. I can see taking pics. of places, but not with themselves or their vehicles in the pic. What is the point?? Art is one thing, Memories for themselves is an other thing, other than that I don't understand it.



Im thinking there is nothing wrong with me .......but I dont want to take a vote

[Willow]

Agreed there is something wrong with a pilot concentrating on taking pictures of himself rather than controlling the aircraft at low altitude.  Given the situation, though, I would think that taking selfies was not the only or even primary problem with this particular pilot.       

[dreamaker]

Agreed there is something wrong with a pilot concentrating on taking pictures of himself rather than controlling the aircraft at low altitude.  Given the situation, though, I would think that taking selfies was not the only or even primary problem with this particular pilot.       

Not now he is dead!! And I am not just concerned with just this situation, I see it all the time and people causing harm and damage to others and themselves. What does it all mean?  People have such low self esteem, and they are in to them selves. I don't understand it!! 

[G-Man]

I think pictures of places are boring without Valkyries and people from the VRCC in them...

-Mike

  + 1,000,000,000,000

[Big Rig]

A look, this is a picture right before I crashed and died....stupid is as stoooopid does. Sorry for the family and glad nobody else outside the aircraft was hurt.

[dreamaker]

I think pictures of places are boring without Valkyries and people from the VRCC in them...

-Mike

  + 1,000,000,000,000

Sorry!!! Don't See it! A specialty Valk might make sense, or something interesting on it, people, I don't see it.  Help me understand it.  Last thing I want to do, is show people a picture with my stupid face in it.

[Moonshot_1]

I think pictures of places are boring without Valkyries and people from the VRCC in them...

-Mike

  + 1,000,000,000,000

Sorry!!! Don't See it! A specialty Valk might make sense, or something interesting on it, people, I don't see it.  Help me understand it.  Last thing I want to do, is show people a picture with my stupid face in it.

You discovered the reason right there. They are looking to take a photo of the last thing they really did.

He thought the last thing he'd ever do was to take a selfie while flying his airplane. So he went out to do his last thing.

[Serk]

Sorry!!! Don't See it! A specialty Valk might make sense, or something interesting on it, people, I don't see it.  Help me understand it.  Last thing I want to do, is show people a picture with my stupid face in it.

Getting outside the scope of the original point of this post, I.E. so intent on taking a selfie you get killed (Or worse get someone else killed) if I'm somewhere interesting I try to get a picture of myself there. I guess you could say to prove I was there, but also to remember I was there myself, remind myself of the situation, what I was seeing, hearing, smelling, feeling at that moment in time.

I could just take a picture of the location, and often take many of those too, but there are so many almost identical pictures like that that can easily be found elsewhere, why take another without something personal in it?

As an example, both of these pictures taken are of the same thing... Many years after I was there, which one do you think has more meaning to me now?

Just the location:



Or the location with myself in it:



Obviously for you it doesn't matter much, but for my own memories, the one with me in it is far more impactful. I can almost

[Jess from VA]

On the other hand, some selfies are entirely harmless.

[G-Man]

I think pictures of places are boring without Valkyries and people from the VRCC in them...

-Mike

  + 1,000,000,000,000

Sorry!!! Don't See it! A specialty Valk might make sense, or something interesting on it, people, I don't see it.  Help me understand it.  Last thing I want to do, is show people a picture with my stupid face in it.

Then please disregard my recent post of our sailing trip.  There's a few pics of me and Cheryl having a good time.  

(nobody was hurt in the taking of said pictures)

[Moonshot_1]

On the other hand, some selfies are entirely harmless.

Them are deadly weapons right there

[dreamaker]

No!!! what you are saying is good, and makes sense to me, with that explaination. Have you ever gone to someone's house, that you were at their wedding, and they want you to look at the wedding pics. The pics are for their memories, to reminisce in the future, to look back. To me, it means Zip.  I am  not saying you shouldn't do it, I just don't understand the reason for the boring ones. Looking for meaning behind it!  Thanks that was helpful!!!

[Gryphon Rider]

And one thing I have never understood, is people taking pictures of themselves on a trip, and then showing everybody. My question is: are proving that they were at certain places, so they take pictures to prove they were not lying. I can see taking pics. of places, but not with themselves or their vehicles in the pic. What is the point?? Art is one thing, Memories for themselves is an other thing, other than that I don't understand it.

Some might be proving or bragging that they've been somewhere or done something.  I'm sure that's a big part of the reason why people like Killboy can make money selling pictures to motorcycle riders riders on US 129.  People want to document that they've actually done something interesting with their lives.

When I was young and travelling alone, I would take pictures of the scenery I saw along the way.  When I got my pictures back I was almost always disappointed that the image I captured didn't hold a candle to my memories of the places.  I'm sure part of that was lack of photography skills and inexpensive cameras, but I think a bigger part of it was that the pictures didn't capture the emotions, the smells, the feel of the wind and sun, the sounds, the concern for how much money or gas or time I had to accomplish my goals for the day, etc.  A few years after the experience, I wished I had more pictures of the people I met, and yes, pictures of me while I was in the experience.  I actually wish I had thought to take some selfies, although I'm sure many of them would have captured the less of my face and more of the ground or sky than intended because I wouldn't have been able to look through the viewfinder while snapping the shutter.

So today when trying to capture memories, I take way more photos that have people in them than photos with only scenery.  It's still rare that I take selfies, but that's more because I simply don't think about it, having grown up with film cameras, than because I have disdain for them.  I think it would be good, however, to make a point of capturing my emotions as shown on my face than to simply fake a smile and then re-take it if the smile didn't look real enough.  You know, the fresh-faced excitement of having my bike packed and ready to go at the start of the day, or the mischief in my eyes as I'm doing something my wife would playfully smack me for if she were there (like, perhaps, taking a selfie with a particularly bubbly and attractive waitress), or the tiredness after riding all day in wind and rain, my face still showing the impressions of the helmet padding on my forehead and cheeks, with my dirty motorcycle in the background.

Usually, however, I'm taking pictures with my mind, which is able to automatically ignore the power lines marring the vista; which is able to capture the momentary sparkle in someone's eye as they talk about something they are passionate about; which is able to remember the joy of riding out of the rain and into the glorious freshness of the warm sun illuminating the steam coming off of the wet road and the water dripping from the trees, when I start singing a favourite hymn inside my helmet, where only God and I can hear.

[Oss]

I call PHOTOSHOP on that pic Jess

This one is natural

[Jess from VA]

Selfies by definition are arm's-length closeups.  I don't look that good from across the room, let alone 20 inches.  They are useful in reminding yourself that.... holy crap, it's time to trim that nose bush.


And Evan, look up Chloe Vevrier (there's no photoshop necessary, and no bondo either) (and yours is not a selfie)

[dreamaker]

And one thing I have never understood, is people taking pictures of themselves on a trip, and then showing everybody. My question is: are proving that they were at certain places, so they take pictures to prove they were not lying. I can see taking pics. of places, but not with themselves or their vehicles in the pic. What is the point?? Art is one thing, Memories for themselves is an other thing, other than that I don't understand it.

Some might be proving or bragging that they've been somewhere or done something.  I'm sure that's a big part of the reason why people like Killboy can make money selling pictures to motorcycle riders riders on US 129.  People want to document that they've actually done something interesting with their lives.

When I was young and travelling alone, I would take pictures of the scenery I saw along the way.  When I got my pictures back I was almost always disappointed that the image I captured didn't hold a candle to my memories of the places.  I'm sure part of that was lack of photography skills and inexpensive cameras, but I think a bigger part of it was that the pictures didn't capture the emotions, the smells, the feel of the wind and sun, the sounds, the concern for how much money or gas or time I had to accomplish my goals for the day, etc.  A few years after the experience, I wished I had more pictures of the people I met, and yes, pictures of me while I was in the experience.  I actually wish I had thought to take some selfies, although I'm sure many of them would have captured the less of my face and more of the ground or sky than intended because I wouldn't have been able to look through the viewfinder while snapping the shutter.

So today when trying to capture memories, I take way more photos that have people in them than photos with only scenery.  It's still rare that I take selfies, but that's more because I simply don't think about it, having grown up with film cameras, than because I have disdain for them.  I think it would be good, however, to make a point of capturing my emotions as shown on my face than to simply fake a smile and then re-take it if the smile didn't look real enough.  You know, the fresh-faced excitement of having my bike packed and ready to go at the start of the day, or the mischief in my eyes as I'm doing something my wife would playfully smack me for if she were there (like, perhaps, taking a selfie with a particularly bubbly and attractive waitress), or the tiredness after riding all day in wind and rain, my face still showing the impressions of the helmet padding on my forehead and cheeks, with my dirty motorcycle in the background.

Usually, however, I'm taking pictures with my mind, which is able to automatically ignore the power lines marring the vista; which is able to capture the momentary sparkle in someone's eye as they talk about something they are passionate about; which is able to remember the joy of riding out of the rain and into the glorious freshness of the warm sun illuminating the steam coming off of the wet road and the water dripping from the trees, when I start singing a favourite hymn inside my helmet, where only God and I can hear.

I like your write up. Good descriptive word, Emotion!

[Oss]

to the counselor from Virginia, I stand corrected, those are certainly humongous jaigundos

I dont do selfies, I have another waitress take the pics with me and the pretty waitress if my wife or a friend is not available

If they dont like the pic it is immediately deleted,  if they like it then it comes on this site or the blog for my trip

[Black Pearl's Captain]

No comment.

[Big Rig]

Did you purposely go up just to take a selfie and fly a plane without crashing? 

Love the hat! 

Altitude? 8 thousand?

[J.Mencalice]

Agreed there is something wrong with a pilot concentrating on taking pictures of himself rather than controlling the aircraft at low altitude.  Given the situation, though, I would think that taking selfies was not the only or even primary problem with this particular pilot.       

Not now he is dead!! And I am not just concerned with just this situation, I see it all the time and people causing harm and damage to others and themselves. What does it all mean?  People have such low self esteem, and they are in to them selves. I don't understand it!! 

Dr. Freud and Dr. Jung described the ego and the id as powerful, driving motivators to the little minds of small minded people.
Not my opinion, theirs.

[Willow]

I don't understand it!!  

Them there are some true words.

Agreed there is something wrong with a pilot concentrating on taking pictures of himself rather than controlling the aircraft at low altitude.  Given the situation, though, I would think that taking selfies was not the only or even primary problem with this particular pilot.      

Not now he is dead!! And I am not just concerned with just this situation, I see it all the time and people causing harm and damage to others and themselves. ...

Bit of an exaggeration here with the "all the time" and "causing harm and damage".  It's an isolated incident.  I see folks taking selfies.  I think it's a bit more often than I would.  I can't recall witnessing one incident of damage being caused.  Lots of times I remember thinking how dumb that was.

The problem with the pilot was that he did not follow the primary rule of piloting.  The selfie was simply a small piece of that.  I seriously doubt he was paying full attention to his piloting right up until he decided to take a selfie.

... People have such low self esteem, and they are in to them selves. ...

The two statements joined by the conjunction are essentially in conflict with one another.

BTW, the selfie of Raymond at the controls is really cool.

Now and then someone takes an isolated incident and gets all worked up trying to apply it as general occurrence holding an obvious trait of danger to all mankind.  My mind immediately responds with "Wow!"  I will choose to decline relating the rest of my thought but it involves two letters, one from each half of the alphabet.  

I'm really sorry the guy is dead.  I'm especially regretful that he died doing something stupid.  I do wish he had paid better attention to his responsibility as the pilot of a flying machine.  I don't think the selfie had much to do with what happened.  

  

[Jersey mike]

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[Moonshot_1]

No comment.

The guy who crashed his plane while taking a selfie was ALOT closer to the ground when he took it than you were there. Not saying that you should, just putting it out there for comparison purposes.

[JimC]

I still like the poster from Oss !

What beach? I been looking for 5 minutes and can not find it.

Jim

[wiggydotcom]

I admit I spend a fair amount of time on Facebook along with a few VRCCers. If you want to see Selfie Overload, FB is the place to be.

There are a couple of "friends" who usually happen to be of the female gender who have to post a selfie about every 3rd day and also keep rotating their profile pics.

I've often thought of making a general post saying something to the effect of.."To my friends who are over 30 years old, you really aren't "growing" much anymore so I don't see the need for you to post weekly selfies of yourself.
I think it's sad that some are so hung up on themselves. The ones that really make me shake my head are the ones where these same parents have to include their big heads right beside their own kids. I feel like asking if there are any pics of just the kids alone.

My wife tells me to keep my mouth shut.
 

[The emperor has no clothes]

I admit I spend a fair amount of time on Facebook along with a few VRCCers. If you want to see Selfie Overload, FB is the place to be.

There are a couple of "friends" who usually happen to be of the female gender who have to post a selfie about every 3rd day and also keep rotating their profile pics.

I've often thought of making a general post saying something to the effect of.."To my friends who are over 30 years old, you really aren't "growing" much anymore so I don't see the need for you to post weekly selfies of yourself.
I think it's sad that some are so hung up on themselves. The ones that really make me shake my head are the ones where these same parents have to include their big heads right beside their own kids. I feel like asking if there are any pics of just the kids alone.

My wife tells me to keep my mouth shut.
 

I don't do FB but my wife does and it cracks me up how these women will get themselves all contorted up in positions to take selfies.

[Tundra]

I used to post pics from every ride. I thought folks here shared a similar interest and enjoyed sharing and seeing the rides they sometimes couldn't make. Especially from different states.  I have heard similar views regarding my picture posting here and have slowed it down considerably.

[dreamaker]

Far as my opinion!! i am not saying the pics are wrong, I am saying I don't understand the point of that method, don't mean its wrong. For example: This one guy I go to coffee with, we will be driving down the road, will see something or maybe a car, he would say "I had one or my brother had one" or say something like that. I would ask him, what is your point, what are you trying to tell me, I don't understand your remark. So it is like the pictures. I just don't understand the reason far as being public, not personal reasons. Don't mean its wrong, maybe personal pride, can't say.

[Gryphon Rider]

I used to post pics from every ride. I thought folks here shared a similar interest and enjoyed sharing and seeing the rides they sometimes couldn't make. Especially from different states.  I have heard similar views regarding my picture posting here and have slowed it down considerably.

I wouldn't be discouraged from posting them if I were you.  Viewers can always skip them or use their back button if they feel it's too much.  I typically don't look at ride reports and the associated photos unless either I was on the ride, or something indicates something unusual happened or was seen on the ride.

[MarkT]

I used to fly my hang glider with a camcorder on the keel - the "hang-cam".  I was in the center of every video.  So I guess I'm narcissistic in some folks minds.  There was a main reason for it - so I could evaluate my mistakes and learn from them, so as to minimize them.  The consequences of hang glider pilot mistakes can be severe.  Also I could share the flights with others, the "back seater" as it were. Partly for my Dad who had to surrender his pilot's license due to the medical.

Here's one of the flights that emphasized pulling on extra speed on short final, before you penetrate the wind shear and the glider stalls causing a pile-in.  This video appeared on the "Right This Minute" TV show that plays online action videos, the day after I posted it on youtube.  Surprised me, happened to have the show running in the shop and there's my video.
Cracked some ribs and broke a down tube on the control frame.

Hang Glider crash on Lookout Mountain	powered by Aeva

[T-Bird]

The last 10 years my wife and I have been researching our Genealogy, It has meant so much to us to be able to locate and preserve pictures of past generations of family members. Family vacations, Christmas, weddings, and other pictures would not be the same without the people in them.

[t-man403]

And one thing I have never understood, is people taking pictures of themselves on a trip, and then showing everybody. My question is: are proving that they were at certain places, so they take pictures to prove they were not lying. I can see taking pics. of places, but not with themselves or their vehicles in the pic. What is the point?? Art is one thing, Memories for themselves is an other thing, other than that I don't understand it.

Some might be proving or bragging that they've been somewhere or done something.  I'm sure that's a big part of the reason why people like Killboy can make money selling pictures to motorcycle riders riders on US 129.  People want to document that they've actually done something interesting with their lives.

When I was young and travelling alone, I would take pictures of the scenery I saw along the way.  When I got my pictures back I was almost always disappointed that the image I captured didn't hold a candle to my memories of the places.  I'm sure part of that was lack of photography skills and inexpensive cameras, but I think a bigger part of it was that the pictures didn't capture the emotions, the smells, the feel of the wind and sun, the sounds, the concern for how much money or gas or time I had to accomplish my goals for the day, etc.  A few years after the experience, I wished I had more pictures of the people I met, and yes, pictures of me while I was in the experience.  I actually wish I had thought to take some selfies, although I'm sure many of them would have captured the less of my face and more of the ground or sky than intended because I wouldn't have been able to look through the viewfinder while snapping the shutter.

So today when trying to capture memories, I take way more photos that have people in them than photos with only scenery.  It's still rare that I take selfies, but that's more because I simply don't think about it, having grown up with film cameras, than because I have disdain for them.  I think it would be good, however, to make a point of capturing my emotions as shown on my face than to simply fake a smile and then re-take it if the smile didn't look real enough.  You know, the fresh-faced excitement of having my bike packed and ready to go at the start of the day, or the mischief in my eyes as I'm doing something my wife would playfully smack me for if she were there (like, perhaps, taking a selfie with a particularly bubbly and attractive waitress), or the tiredness after riding all day in wind and rain, my face still showing the impressions of the helmet padding on my forehead and cheeks, with my dirty motorcycle in the background.

Usually, however, I'm taking pictures with my mind, which is able to automatically ignore the power lines marring the vista; which is able to capture the momentary sparkle in someone's eye as they talk about something they are passionate about; which is able to remember the joy of riding out of the rain and into the glorious freshness of the warm sun illuminating the steam coming off of the wet road and the water dripping from the trees, when I start singing a favourite hymn inside my helmet, where only God and I can hear.

Well said Kevin!



Stupid taking a pic while riding but I'm here to tell the tale ........ this one picture absolutely floods my mind with great memories of all the folk I met at "InZane" 2014 and all the fantastic things Troy and I saw and experienced on our way. Other than "Disney World" ........ I can't remember having so much fun on a trip!!!

Damn I look good!  

[Kep]

have you tried familysearch.org....you would be amazed at the info that you can find on there..I have a free full access membership , if you want me to look up anything for you ..or atleast do a search , let me know.Kep