Tfrank59
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« on: April 08, 2015, 04:45:36 PM » |
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So here's a weird one, but my bike leans--I actually measured it--24 degrees with the front wheel straight ahead, when sitting on the side stand. Is that actually how Honda designed it? The mounting bracket isn't loose, broken or bent, the side stand itself isn't bent--actually the part that sits on the ground is level when it's on the side stand--but the thing just looks like it's ready to fall over! Am I crazy or is it just how it is? Never had a bike that leaned that far over!  |
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« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2015, 05:12:09 PM » |
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It is possible to have the frame bent where the sidestand attaches, but my bike leans over pretty good also. I do have long shocks on it though. I've seen folks who add washers to two of the sidestand mounting bolts to lessen the lean.
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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2015, 05:27:36 PM » |
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There is some variation in the lean from bike to bike.
The bike needs to lean enough so that if a flat happens the sidestand will not cause the bike to tip over.
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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2015, 05:47:15 PM » |
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I have the austone taxi tire on one of my valks and it leans quite a bit farther than the one with the MC tire.
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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2015, 06:10:13 PM » |
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I had a heavy leaner so I put a chrome pad on the end of the side stand. That improved things. But then I installed an Austone Taxi Tire and now I'm back to a heavy leaner. I have a center stand so the possibly of a flat tire is not an issue...
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2015, 10:56:47 PM » |
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I have two '99 interstates, and one leans noticeably more than the other. I have crawled under and looked several times and up on the jack, and do not have a bent cross member and the less-leaner has not been shimmed up. I just live with it. But when I get off the less-leaner back to the big-leaner every 4-6 months, I think my bike is falling over when I get off it (for a few rides).
The big-leaner does have the Honda chrome kickstand, and the less-leaner has the original, but they looked identical to me.
As pointed out, you can shim the kickstand mount to make it lean less, but if you keep your bike next to a car or something nice, it can fall on it with a (stealthy slow leakdown) rear flat if you take out too much lean.
EDIT: Both with identical suspension and tires.
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« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2015, 12:14:15 AM » |
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It was designed that way from the get go.
Mine is a Trike now, so I don't worry about it falling over with a rear flat.
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Tfrank59
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« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2015, 07:44:11 AM » |
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Okay, that's all very good information – thanks a lot. I'll probably just live with it since I guess it's correct, or maybe I'll think about shimming it at some point. Doesn't really bother me as long as I know it's not changing (increasing), and I didn't really think about the possibility of a flat and how then without enough lean the bike would actually fall over the other way.
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-Tom
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« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2015, 08:21:42 AM » |
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Depends an awful lot on where the shocks sit when the bike is unloaded...
It has a hefty lean designed into it (but I've never measured it)...the idea being that the bike will not fall over if the tire(s) go flat...
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« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2015, 09:54:05 AM » |
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Shorter shocks can help with that.
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« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2015, 08:17:59 AM » |
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I have a "65" series CT on my IS. She does lean quite a bit. When I am out and about, I turn the handle bars to the right this helps a bit with the lean. When home I have a piece of 3/4 " plywood for the kick stand to sit on.
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« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2015, 10:36:11 AM » |
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I have a spare side stand assembly from a 98' Standard (for just in case issues), which is very tight with no extra play, unlike the one on my Interstate which has play and leaned lots. So I put a thin machine washer in the Interstate side stand and got rid of the play and sits much better. If you do the washer thing remember to insert it on the top side of the bracket's tongue sticking out so it sets the bike up taller.
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« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2015, 01:40:35 PM » |
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