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blackvalkyrie
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« on: April 21, 2015, 02:45:57 PM »

I'm thinking about getting slip on for my 97 valk standard.... any ideas? or suggestions? would I need to re jet my carbs or can I just "slip em on"?
thanks cooldude
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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2015, 03:27:41 PM »

Don't know of a slip on other than a 4" truck stack.
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2015, 04:37:43 PM »


something like these?
http://www.motosport.com/helix-19-turn-out-muffler

http://www.motosport.com/helix-19-turn-out-muffler
Don't know of a slip on other than a 4" truck stack.
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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2015, 04:53:06 PM »

So are going to cut off the existing muffler system? The adaptation of the slip-on looks like it might be tricky.  ???
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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2015, 06:04:26 PM »

And a Huge mistake in my opinion if it is the look you are after I would get this.
http://store.airflo.com/25p-40018cp.html
And if it is sound you are after contact MarkT here on the forum cooldude
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2015, 06:05:40 PM »

Regular motorcycle slip on mufflers will not slip on to a Valk exhaust.

They are one-piece from header to rear piggies, except the 18" covers on the back.  They do not have removable, replaceable mufflers.    

See?

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« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2015, 06:08:48 PM »

What Jess just told you...there is no such thing as a slip on exhaust for the Valkyrie. 

Are you looking for a certain style of pipe you're after, or are you looking for loud?
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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2015, 06:26:10 PM »

mostly sound.. just throather, not real loud but more deep..

What Jess just told you...there is no such thing as a slip on exhaust for the Valkyrie. 

Are you looking for a certain style of pipe you're after, or are you looking for loud?

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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2015, 06:28:15 PM »

Mark T is your man. cooldude
http://www.horseapple.com/Valkyrie/Valk_Products/M2W_Exhaust__System/m2w_exhaust__system.html
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« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2015, 06:44:36 PM »

I do like the look here.. do you know if this is a simple installation without having to re jet?

And a Huge mistake in my opinion if it is the look you are after I would get this.
http://store.airflo.com/25p-40018cp.html
And if it is sound you are after contact MarkT here on the forum cooldude
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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2015, 06:49:59 PM »

Wait! Never mind... dumb question..  :crazy2:it's a tip.. ignore me...not enough beer today lol

I do like the look here.. do you know if this is a simple installation without having to re jet?

And a Huge mistake in my opinion if it is the look you are after I would get this.
http://store.airflo.com/25p-40018cp.html
And if it is sound you are after contact MarkT here on the forum cooldude

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« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2015, 08:29:10 AM »

18 inch truck stacks, grumpy's tips   cooldude  Hoser
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« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2015, 04:11:07 PM »

Hey Hoser:
Did they change the sound?

18 inch truck stacks, grumpy's tips   cooldude  Hoser

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« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2015, 04:13:32 PM »

No just covers stock cans.
Never understood why someone wants to change a perfect sounding bike.
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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2015, 04:27:00 PM »

mostly sound.. just throather, not real loud but more deep..

What Jess just told you...there is no such thing as a slip on exhaust for the Valkyrie. 

Are you looking for a certain style of pipe you're after, or are you looking for loud?


modifying the stock exhaust by adding glasspacks is the really only way to get a deeper sound, or and after market exhaust. it will not ever be like an HD. Glasspacks can give a v-8 type of sound.
OEM exhaust using stock tail ends drill the baffles out, there are six all together, a little at a time, can't go back like a haircut.
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« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2015, 04:37:56 PM »

Open 18" flatcut tips, in replacement of the stock squeezed-end tips, are just a small amount throatier/rumblier than stock.  The change is very small, and the principle reason many of us add them is they look better than stock tips (and are much nicer heavy stock metal and chrome than stock tips).  I cannot speak to the Grumpy tips regarding sound, they look nice.

The way to get a decent little bump in noise is to cut the three one inch tubes (called piggies) off underneath the tips behind the last baffle.  But don't cut them all the way off, try half first, and one of the piggies is threaded to hold a tip screw, so don't cut the threaded part off. Then cut more off if you want more noise. But beware, you can get droning (esp if you wear a full face helmet) from cutting the piggies off.  I have one bike with pigs off and one with on, and I like the off, but I wear a half helmet and I am not bothered at all by droning.  Beyond that, some people punch out or drill holes in the baffles, but I would never do that.  Some do.  Then you can rebuild the internals completely and install glass pacs inside and get more of a Porshe sound.  Mark T (Horseapple Ranch) a site sponsor builds them.  (see his link on this site)

If you leave an inch of piggies on, they can be returned to stock with copper pipe, sleeves and solder, but after you starting drilling out the baffles, you can not go back.

If you want to experiment beyond a piggie trim, get a 2d pair of exhaust to screw up so you have some good ones to go back to.  (Just sayin')  Or try and find a used set of Cobra 6 into 6 pipes (with baffles), but you will lose about 8-10HP unless you rejet carbs to get it back.  Without baffles, they are LOUD.  The Cobras have single wall headers and they all blue and discolor; used ones will already be blue; live with it or paint them with black stove paint, or get them ceramic coated.

Droning is best described as a waaaawoooowaaawooowaawoowawowawowawo  speeding up and slowing down, over and over again, with speed and rpms.  I have definitely experienced it riding with a whole crowd of valks, and it is irritating after while.  
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« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2015, 06:05:54 PM »

thanks Jess... appreciate all who have weighed in... i may just leave em as is..although i do hear the droning sound even w/my half helmet...

Open 18" flatcut tips, in replacement of the stock squeezed-end tips, are just a small amount throatier/rumblier than stock.  The change is very small, and the principle reason many of us add them is they look better than stock tips (and are much nicer heavy stock metal and chrome than stock tips).  I cannot speak to the Grumpy tips regarding sound, they look nice.

The way to get a decent little bump in noise is to cut the three one inch tubes (called piggies) off underneath the tips behind the last baffle.  But don't cut them all the way off, try half first, and one of the piggies is threaded to hold a tip screw, so don't cut the threaded part off. Then cut more off if you want more noise. But beware, you can get droning (esp if you wear a full face helmet) from cutting the piggies off.  I have one bike with pigs off and one with on, and I like the off, but I wear a half helmet and I am not bothered at all by droning.  Beyond that, some people punch out or drill holes in the baffles, but I would never do that.  Some do.  Then you can rebuild the internals completely and install glass pacs inside and get more of a Porshe sound.  Mark T (Horseapple Ranch) a site sponsor builds them.  (see his link on this site)

If you leave an inch of piggies on, they can be returned to stock with copper pipe, sleeves and solder, but after you starting drilling out the baffles, you can not go back.

If you want to experiment beyond a piggie trim, get a 2d pair of exhaust to screw up so you have some good ones to go back to.  (Just sayin')  Or try and find a used set of Cobra 6 into 6 pipes (with baffles), but you will lose about 8-10HP unless you rejet carbs to get it back.  Without baffles, they are LOUD.  The Cobras have single wall headers and they all blue and discolor; used ones will already be blue; live with it or paint them with black stove paint, or get them ceramic coated.

Droning is best described as a waaaawoooowaaawooowaawoowawowawowawo  speeding up and slowing down, over and over again, with speed and rpms.  I have definitely experienced it riding with a whole crowd of valks, and it is irritating after while.  
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« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2015, 08:20:00 PM »

Hey Hoser:
Did they change the sound?

18 inch truck stacks, grumpy's tips   cooldude  Hoser


Clipped off the piggies, drilled the rear baffle, left the front baffle alone, very mellow, sounds like a sports car, the tips are the secret to the music, they act as a tuner.  Ask anybody who has heard it.  Uturn owns it now.  Hoser  Cry
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« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2015, 09:17:02 PM »

thanks man cooldude

Hey Hoser:
Did they change the sound?

18 inch truck stacks, grumpy's tips   cooldude  Hoser


Clipped off the piggies, drilled the rear baffle, left the front baffle alone, very mellow, sounds like a sports car, the tips are the secret to the music, they act as a tuner.  Ask anybody who has heard it.  Uturn owns it now.  Hoser  :'(
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« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2015, 05:56:31 AM »

Corolina Bike and Trike may still have their S.S. slip-ons available.
Matt at CBT is a well respected fabricator and knows the F6C's very well and is easy to work with and is also a supporting vendor.
CBT parts/accsessories are first rate.
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