BIG--T
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« on: May 21, 2015, 05:28:59 AM » |
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But has anyone ever tried to put a little heat on the final fill plug? The bolt is rounded some and the wrench is slipping. I'm trying not to take my Cobras off. Know a trick?
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pancho
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« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2015, 05:33:35 AM » |
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Hey BIG--T,,,, Do you have a new one to replace it with when that one comes out?? Just saying that it might be worth the wait as you certainly don't want to put that one back in. Heat is not the answer on that one.....
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BIG--T
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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2015, 05:55:27 AM » |
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Hey BIG--T,,,, Do you have a new one to replace it with when that one comes out?? Just saying that it might be worth the wait as you certainly don't want to put that one back in. Heat is not the answer on that one.....
Yea I know heat is not the answer because of the oil and o ring. No I don't have another plug. Thanks |
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BIG--T
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« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2015, 06:43:20 AM » |
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Thanks Pancho, I got it  |
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hubcapsc
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« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2015, 08:09:17 AM » |
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It is the same plug from the gl1500 final... one of the local shops might
have it. I might have one...
-Mike
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Tfrank59
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« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2015, 11:21:36 AM » |
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I opened up my final drive oil fill yesterday, because I did the maintenance on it, and I noticed that the 12 point 17 mm box wrench wanted to slip – I wonder if a six point box wrench would do better? Or maybe your fill plug hex is already rounded beyond saving, I don't know.
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« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2015, 12:04:54 PM » |
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It is the same plug from the gl1500 final... one of the local shops might
have it. I might have one...
-Mike
That plug/cap looks like the caps that are on the valve covers of the old '70's SOHC 750 Hondas. I've been lucky as I use an open end wrench. But then I just gently tighten it. I feel that is enough. It has an o-ring and it sure isn't going to unscrew itself. |
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BIG--T
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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2015, 08:22:14 PM » |
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I opened up my final drive oil fill yesterday, because I did the maintenance on it, and I noticed that the 12 point 17 mm box wrench wanted to slip – I wonder if a six point box wrench would do better? Or maybe your fill plug hex is already rounded beyond saving, I don't know.
Just seeing this but yes a 6 pointer is a lot better! |
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BIG--T
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« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2015, 08:26:06 PM » |
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It is the same plug from the gl1500 final... one of the local shops might
have it. I might have one...
-Mike
Mike if you got one I could sure use it for real, I got it off but done a number on the head! Just let me know. Thanks Tony |
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2015, 05:07:00 AM » |
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Must use a tight fitting SOCKET, these are pot metal and don't take well to the angles you need to reach into the well it sits in. Only as tight as a spark plug or even a tad less than that
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« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2015, 05:10:57 AM » |
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Must use a tight fitting SOCKET, these are pot metal and don't take well to the angles you need to reach into the well it sits in. Only as tight as a spark plug or even a tad less than that
True Jeff, I never had trouble with my standard because of no bags. |
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« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2015, 05:25:37 AM » |
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That's why its SO much easier to change that oil when the final drive is off the bike. If you just MUST change it on the bike and don't want to mess with the exhaust then here are some tips for changing it on the bike.
1. Remove the shocks and raise the swing arm so the plug can be accessed with a socket wrench NOT AN OPENED END OR BOX
2. When filling, fill ON THE SIDE STAND but only pour in 150cc. None will overflow out but it will still be full
Work smarter not harder
And that plug doesn't need to be much tighter than finger tight
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« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2015, 05:41:54 AM » |
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That's why its SO much easier to change that oil when the final drive is off the bike. If you just MUST change it on the bike and don't want to mess with the exhaust then here are some tips for changing it on the bike.
1. Remove the shocks and raise the swing arm so the plug can be accessed with a socket wrench NOT AN OPENED END OR BOX
2. When filling, fill ON THE SIDE STAND but only pour in 150cc. None will overflow out but it will still be full
Work smarter not harder
And that plug doesn't need to be much tighter than finger tight
Great idea! Oh No!! I overfilled it! Is there a seal to blow out? I drained it and laid it far to the right as I could. Then I sit here straight up and put dope in til it ran out like a car, cleaned an put plug in. I've put about 200 miles since and all is good...I hope!! |
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hubcapsc
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« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2015, 07:41:42 AM » |
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I looked this morning, I have several extra ones. I have your phone number in my phone, do you have mine? Then I sit here straight up and put dope in til it ran out like a car, cleaned an put plug in. I've put about 200 miles since and all is good...I hope!!That's right. Straight up, not on the side stand. Fill it till some runs out and then stop. The chrome helmet on the top of the drive is a vent, it will take care of you if you overfill it, but you'd almost have to do that on purpose  ... -Mike |
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« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2015, 07:57:54 AM » |
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I looked this morning, I have several extra ones. I have your phone number in my phone, do you have mine? Then I sit here straight up and put dope in til it ran out like a car, cleaned an put plug in. I've put about 200 miles since and all is good...I hope!!That's right. Straight up, not on the side stand. Fill it till some runs out and then stop. The chrome helmet on the top of the drive is a vent, it will take care of you if you overfill it, but you'd almost have to do that on purpose ... -Mike Thanks I kinda thought that's why the shiny thingy was there! Lol. No I lost a bunch of numbers on my phone due to a crash, yours included. Glad you got one, mine's almost too bad for a pipe wrench! jk. Yeah shoot me a pm with it. |
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« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2015, 08:18:41 AM » |
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That's right. Straight up, not on the side stand. Fill it till some runs out and then stop.
The chrome helmet on the top of the drive is a vent, it will take
care of you if you overfill it, but you'd almost have to do that on purpose Wink You guys crack me up.........if you insist on doing it on the bike, why insist on making more of a mess than you have to? Drain it, clean THAT mess, put it on the side stand, pour in 150cc, button it up NO OVERFLOW. Draining and filling while the thing is on the workbench or the floor (off the bike) is only a million times easier |
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« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2015, 08:21:59 AM » |
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A few ounces extra will hurt nothing.
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« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2015, 08:31:40 AM » |
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I think we have a little obsessive/compulsive stuff going on here.
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hubcapsc
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« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2015, 08:32:10 AM » |
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That's right. Straight up, not on the side stand. Fill it till some runs out and then stop.
The chrome helmet on the top of the drive is a vent, it will take
care of you if you overfill it, but you'd almost have to do that on purpose Wink You guys crack me up.........if you insist on doing it on the bike, why insist on making more of a mess than you have to? Drain it, clean THAT mess, put it on the side stand, pour in 150cc, button it up NO OVERFLOW. Draining and filling while the thing is on the workbench or the floor (off the bike) is only a million times easier Some of us think disassembling the motorcycle is actually harder than not disassembling it. Go figure  ... -Mike |
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« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2015, 08:45:52 AM » |
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That's right. Straight up, not on the side stand. Fill it till some runs out and then stop.
The chrome helmet on the top of the drive is a vent, it will take
care of you if you overfill it, but you'd almost have to do that on purpose Wink You guys crack me up.........if you insist on doing it on the bike, why insist on making more of a mess than you have to? Drain it, clean THAT mess, put it on the side stand, pour in 150cc, button it up NO OVERFLOW. Draining and filling while the thing is on the workbench or the floor (off the bike) is only a million times easier Some of us think disassembling the motorcycle is actually harder than not disassembling it. Go figure ... -Mike So you change a rear wheel to do spline maintenance or to change a tire without disassembling the rear end? If you use synthetic gear lube, you only need to change it every time you do the splines........ roll right back at ya |
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BIG--T
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« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2015, 08:54:32 AM » |
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That's right. Straight up, not on the side stand. Fill it till some runs out and then stop.
The chrome helmet on the top of the drive is a vent, it will take
care of you if you overfill it, but you'd almost have to do that on purpose Wink You guys crack me up.........if you insist on doing it on the bike, why insist on making more of a mess than you have to? Drain it, clean THAT mess, put it on the side stand, pour in 150cc, button it up NO OVERFLOW. Draining and filling while the thing is on the workbench or the floor (off the bike) is only a million times easier Some of us think disassembling the motorcycle is actually harder than not disassembling it. Go figure ... -Mike Ditto!! |
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« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2015, 08:57:29 AM » |
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I think we have a little obsessive/compulsive stuff going on here.
Farther sound like it!! Lol. I've put 200 miles since and so good so far..Mobil1 Synthetic too!  |
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« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2015, 09:10:08 AM » |
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So you change a rear wheel to do spline maintenance or to change a tire without disassembling the rear end?Is Big-T doing either of those things? here are some tips for changing it on the bike.
1. Remove the shocks  -Mike
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« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2015, 09:20:07 AM » |
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So you change a rear wheel to do spline maintenance or to change a tire without disassembling the rear end?Is Big-T doing either of those things? here are some tips for changing it on the bike.
1. Remove the shocks -Mike I don't care what you guys do. In the military we use to say there was the right way, the wrong way and then MY way. Your bike your way. I paid my dues tearing up those pot metal plugs with the wrong tools on my older Hondas. I learned how to work smarter instead of harder and longer by the school of hard knocks as some here are obviously doing now as well. Knock yerselfs out |
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