BIG--T
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« on: May 23, 2015, 12:19:41 PM » |
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Stuck in traffic and heat Light came. The fan is Not running. Did not see but one fuse box none is marked so I pulled all. They all look good. Is there another fuse box or what, where is color of fan wire?
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BonS
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« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2015, 12:35:59 PM » |
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My Clymer manual make it look like a black with blue wire feeding the fan. There's a 10A fuse in the fuse box. THE fuse box. You can try grounding the single black wire that goes the thermostatic switch on the bottom left of the radiator. The fan should come on if the ignition switch is on. Good Luck!!
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BIG--T
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« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2015, 12:47:50 PM » |
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My Clymer manual make it look like a black with blue wire feeding the fan. There's a 10A fuse in the fuse box. THE fuse box. You can try grounding the single black wire that goes the thermostatic switch on the bottom left of the radiator. The fan should come on if the ignition switch is on. Good Luck!!
THANKS BONS. I can't see it and. Don't have Allen wrench to take pods off |
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Valker
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« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2015, 12:48:15 PM » |
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Sounds like it may be the fan relay. You could bypass that and leave the fan on until you can fix it. or let it cool then ride. I found that mine only overheated when I wasn't going over about 35 mph.
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BIG--T
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« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2015, 12:54:36 PM » |
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Sounds like it may be the fan relay. You could bypass that and leave the fan on until you can fix it. or let it cool then ride. I found that mine only overheated when I wasn't going over about 35 mph.
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Great idea. Where is the relay? |
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pancho
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« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2015, 01:16:53 PM » |
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There is no "fan relay", in the fan circuit. Valker may be thinking about the engine coolant temp. indicator unit (under left side cover) for the indicator light, but it is not in the fan circuit. To turn on the fan, try what BonS said,, if the fan is not coming on, there is a good chance that the wire has come off the fan motor switch he is talking about on the lower left inside of the radiator, grounding the black wire will turn on the fan if the motor is good, and there is 12 volts being supplied.. There is not much in the circuit. The fuse is 10 Amp. labeled fan motor.
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« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2015, 01:34:49 PM » |
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My Clymer manual make it look like a black with blue wire feeding the fan. There's a 10A fuse in the fuse box. THE fuse box. You can try grounding the single black wire that goes the thermostatic switch on the bottom left of the radiator. The fan should come on if the ignition switch is on. Good Luck!!
THANKS BONS. I can't see it and. Don't have Allen wrench to take pods off You need one in tool pouch. |
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« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2015, 03:51:45 PM » |
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There is no "fan relay", in the fan circuit. Valker may be thinking about the engine coolant temp. indicator unit (under left side cover) for the indicator light, but it is not in the fan circuit. To turn on the fan, try what BonS said,, if the fan is not coming on, there is a good chance that the wire has come off the fan motor switch he is talking about on the lower left inside of the radiator, grounding the black wire will turn on the fan if the motor is good, and there is 12 volts being supplied.. There is not much in the circuit. The fuse is 10 Amp. labeled fan motor.
Probably what he said. The thingy that tells the fan to kick on went out on my bike. I rode about 2000 miles before fixing it. (There are not many stops nor much traffic in my part of the country!) |
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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2015, 06:06:21 PM » |
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If you have a '99 I/S, you have the old style hot light circuit. It's randomly faulty and comes on when the bike isn't overheating. That's why the fan isn't running. The two functions are not tied together.
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« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2015, 06:20:32 PM » |
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There is no "fan relay", in the fan circuit. Valker may be thinking about the engine coolant temp. indicator unit (under left side cover) for the indicator light, but it is not in the fan circuit. To turn on the fan, try what BonS said,, if the fan is not coming on, there is a good chance that the wire has come off the fan motor switch he is talking about on the lower left inside of the radiator, grounding the black wire will turn on the fan if the motor is good, and there is 12 volts being supplied.. There is not much in the circuit. The fuse is 10 Amp. labeled fan motor.
Probably what he said. The thingy that tells the fan to kick on went out on my bike. I rode about 2000 miles before fixing it. (There are not many stops nor much traffic in my part of the country!) I know that's true Valker,,, I've been there,,, what you do have is plenty of heat and wide open space. Traveling two laners out your way, you can go twenty miles without seeing a sign of civilization except for maybe an entrance to a ranch,, I guess it is all ranch land?? |
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« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2015, 06:44:48 PM » |
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I know that's true Valker,,, I've been there,,, what you do have is plenty of heat and wide open space. Traveling two laners out your way, you can go twenty miles without seeing a sign of civilization except for maybe an entrance to a ranch,, I guess it is all ranch land??
The really nice land is ranches.Some of these run into the hundreds of square miles. |
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« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2015, 12:09:18 PM » |
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Thanks guys I'm very grateful for your help!! I made it after it "cooled" and got outa traffic. I think the light sensor or something is faulty. Yes Sandy I have a 1999 Interstate and glad this is a known problem. So what exactly do I need to order?
I really would like to put in a gauge if I can. Has anyone ever done this? I've never liked idiot lights!
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« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2015, 06:43:44 PM » |
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Years ago at Inzane someone was selling a kit that you put in your radiator hose . I use the thermometer oil dip stick . Hope you get it figured out.
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pancho
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« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2015, 08:41:50 AM » |
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Hey BIG--T,, I know that a temp gauge can be put on a Valkyrie,, I have seen it. I may be that each one is a custom installation.
If it was my bike, I would first want to know that my fan circuit was working correctly,, or not.. At least if you have confidence in that, and you know that you are topped off with coolant, it takes a bit of the worry out of the over temp indicator if it comes on. Then the indicator can be looked into or a gauge installed when you get the time.
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Tfrank59
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« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2015, 11:22:58 AM » |
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Thanks guys I'm very grateful for your help!! I made it after it "cooled" and got outa traffic. I think the light sensor or something is faulty. Yes Sandy I have a 1999 Interstate and glad this is a known problem. So what exactly do I need to order?
I really would like to put in a gauge if I can. Has anyone ever done this? I've never liked idiot lights!
I don't like idiot lights either, so I bought radiator cap with a temp gauge on it a couple of months ago. It works great even though it's gotten mixed reviews on this forum. I Think I paid about 15-20 bucks for it. If it ever malfunctions or something, I still have my OEM radiator cap that I'll just put pack on there. |
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« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2015, 12:16:36 PM » |
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where did you find a radiator cap with a temp gauge on it?
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« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2015, 01:31:44 PM » |
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where did you find a radiator cap with a temp gauge on it?
Evil bay... 2473r 16 psi mr gasket radiator cap. It was actually less than 15 bucks  |
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« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2015, 05:47:31 PM » |
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Thanks Dusty, now that is some kinda cool! It looks factory. The links don't work but got the idea! Thanks pocobubba and Tfrank59, I'm ordering it! I checked the local Autozone and Advance but no go. Would be nice if I can find it local.  |
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« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2015, 05:48:05 PM » |
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Thanks Dusty, now that is some kinda cool! It looks factory. The links don't work but got the idea! Thanks pocobubba and Tfrank59, I'm ordering it! I checked the local Autozone and Advance but no go. Would be nice if I can find it local. |
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« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2015, 05:50:44 PM » |
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Just one question; If it's a 16 psi, what is the OEM? That much?
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« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2015, 06:29:04 PM » |
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Just one question; If it's a 16 psi, what is the OEM? That much?
Pretty sure it is yeah |
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« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2015, 07:06:25 PM » |
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Just one question; If it's a 16 psi, what is the OEM? That much?
Pretty sure it is yeah TFrank are you running this cap now on your Valkyrie now? According to Amazon chart it won't fit. There was only 2 reviews and a guy with a Honda Shadow said it wouldn't fit his. Do you know of a cross reference chart? |
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« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2015, 08:24:26 PM » |
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Just one question; If it's a 16 psi, what is the OEM? That much?
Pretty sure it is yeah TFrank are you running this cap now on your Valkyrie now? According to Amazon chart it won't fit. There was only 2 reviews and a guy with a Honda Shadow said it wouldn't fit his. Do you know of a cross reference chart? Yes, I'm pretty sure that's correct part number for the cap I'm running, because I looked under the history of my purchases on eBay to get it. I suppose I could've fat fingered a couple of numbers –-no I don't have a cross reference chart -- but I did get the right cap because of the fitment chart on the eBay site where I bought the cap. |
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« Reply #24 on: May 25, 2015, 08:32:48 PM » |
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Just one question; If it's a 16 psi, what is the OEM? That much?
Pretty sure it is yeah TFrank are you running this cap now on your Valkyrie now? According to Amazon chart it won't fit. There was only 2 reviews and a guy with a Honda Shadow said it wouldn't fit his. Do you know of a cross reference chart? Yes, I'm pretty sure that's correct part number for the cap I'm running, because I looked under the history of my purchases on eBay to get it. I suppose I could've fat fingered a couple of numbers –-no I don't have a cross reference chart -- but I did get the right cap because of the fitment chart on the eBay site where I bought the cap. Okay, I just did a search under "oil temperature dip stick" where I found the thread From January 2015 about water temp radiator cap. Apparently the thread got hijacked from oil temperature to water temperature, but you'll find which part number of Mr. gasket radiator cap to buy. If I were smarter – or maybe if I wasn't using this iPad – I'd be able to copy and paste the link in here for you.  |
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« Reply #25 on: May 25, 2015, 08:42:54 PM » |
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Just one question; If it's a 16 psi, what is the OEM? That much?
Pretty sure it is yeah TFrank are you running this cap now on your Valkyrie now? According to Amazon chart it won't fit. There was only 2 reviews and a guy with a Honda Shadow said it wouldn't fit his. Do you know of a cross reference chart? Yes, I'm pretty sure that's correct part number for the cap I'm running, because I looked under the history of my purchases on eBay to get it. I suppose I could've fat fingered a couple of numbers –-no I don't have a cross reference chart -- but I did get the right cap because of the fitment chart on the eBay site where I bought the cap. Okay, I just did a search under "oil temperature dip stick" where I found the thread From January 2015 about water temp radiator cap. Apparently the thread got hijacked from oil temperature to water temperature, but you'll find which part number of Mr. gasket radiator cap to buy. If I were smarter – or maybe if I wasn't using this iPad – I'd be able to copy and paste the link in here for you. Tom I'm going ahead and order. Then I'll try finding a oil temperature dip stick but so far all I've found is $7 Chinese junk I don't trust. Thanks Tom you're a life saver! |
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« Reply #26 on: May 25, 2015, 10:25:19 PM » |
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Glad to help. I hope you get the right stuff.
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« Reply #27 on: May 25, 2015, 10:50:09 PM » |
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Glad to help. I hope you get the right stuff.
Thanks Tom yes I ordered the same one you did. I just hope I'm one of the lucky ones like you to have one that don't leak like some have. |
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