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Shotgun
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« on: June 04, 2015, 02:09:07 PM »

I bled my clutch a week ago (have a Speedbleeder), took it for a very short ride and everything worked fine.  Changed the rear diff fluid today, went for a ride and no clutch.....handle feels real soft.  Ideas?
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2015, 02:16:49 PM »

Put the old oil back in the final drive.

Kidding of course. Must be air in the line.  Make sure the M.C  stays full.
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Shotgun
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« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2015, 02:59:46 PM »

I'm not sure what is going on.  I put a new Speedbleeder in and saw some very small bubble in the line as I pumped it, but when I released the clutch the bubbles went backwards, almost like there wasn't a Speedbleeder in.  I don't get it.
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2015, 03:17:07 PM »

I'm not sure what is going on.  I put a new Speedbleeder in and saw some very small bubble in the line as I pumped it, but when I released the clutch the bubbles went backwards, almost like there wasn't a Speedbleeder in.  I don't get it.
Either you don't have the Speedbleeder in tight enough when bleeding or it's a bad one. Don't loosen it up a whole bunch, about 1/4 turn is about all it should take.
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davit
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« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2015, 03:30:19 PM »

https://youtu.be/HPgqaC9Gp88
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Shotgun
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« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2015, 04:11:14 PM »

Thanks for the replies. I still don't understand why it worked okay right after I did it and a week later its soft.
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smsdad99
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« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2015, 04:18:18 PM »

I think most likely it is air in the line. I am fighting a leaking clutch slave right now that does the same thing. Be sure to check your fluid level. If it is dropping you might think about the clutch slave. Also check engine oil and be sure it is not rising. But again I think most likely air in the line.

Best wishes with it.
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davit
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« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2015, 04:28:50 PM »

Once air gets trapped in the banjo fitting it is a biotch to get out.  Watch the YouTube video I linked to;  the guy's a slob but his techniques work.
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Patrick
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« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2015, 05:08:28 PM »

Take out the speed bleeder and give it another try.
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CoachDoc
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« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2015, 08:24:38 PM »

Take out the speed bleeder and give it another try.

I love Speed Bleeders but over the years I've had a couple of bad ones. +1 for trying another one.
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« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2015, 08:35:19 PM »

Fill the system from the bottom up and don't forget to watch the reservoir so that it don't overflow. Doing it this requires no bleeding. You will need to keep removing fluid from the reservoir until you see no bubbles in the oil.
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Shotgun
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« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2015, 06:43:31 AM »

What do I need to fill it from the bottom up?  Can I do it with a Speedbleeder or do I need to remove it?
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« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2015, 04:11:09 PM »

Never used a speed bleeder but something to force the fluid into the system and a small clear hose to fit the end of the bleeder.  Remove the cover hook up to the bleeder and open it then feed the fluid into the system until it fills the reservoir, stop an remove some of the fluid and repeat. Do this a few times until the fluid is clear. Make sure you close the bleeder each time you stop so no air is sucked back in. The idea is to put clean bubble free fluid in without interruption. No need to pump up the system to bleed off the bubbles. I've done this to my valk and it works after watching a harley mechanic do it. He tried to bleed the system the standard way and was having trouble like you. I used a big hypodermic for giving meds to horses and a clear plastic hose so I could see the fluid flowing.
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Shotgun
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« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2015, 02:38:08 AM »

Thanks.  I'll do it that way.
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Shotgun
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« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2015, 03:06:38 AM »

Just another question.  Can you use a MityVac with Speedbleeders?
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