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« on: July 15, 2015, 03:10:34 PM » |
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rode to work- temp light came on momentarily then off again on, off,then on. this happened 4 or 5 times in a 30 mile distance. I couldn't smell over heating issue as I rode. I just checked level of radiator is OK - I syphon anti freeze solution every year off the rad and top back up keeping it clean and change overflow bowl also and add 50 50 solution - I have a manual fan switch also, in case needed at stop light.-the last few miles and arriving at my destination the light was off after a faster than usual ride- this is the first time I seen this light on???? any ideas thanks fellow riders west = 98 std 125000 kilos
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Pete
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« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2015, 03:21:46 PM » |
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Sounds like a short in the circuit. Trace the circuit and be sure there is not short and all connections are good.
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Tundra
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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2015, 03:37:49 PM » |
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Here you go...2 minute fix, unplug old unit and plug in new unit. Qty. Part Number Price Per Item Special Order Product Name 1 38710-MZ0-003 $50.99 No Honda - INDICATOR UNIT 
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westnek
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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2015, 04:09:21 PM » |
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Here you go...2 minute fix, unplug old unit and plug in new unit. Qty. Part Number Price Per Item Special Order Product Name 1 38710-MZ0-003 $50.99 No Honda - INDICATOR UNIT  thanks for info tundra but where is this part located? and would a honda gold wing fit
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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2015, 04:40:45 PM » |
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It is located under the left side cover. I have no idea about the Wing, you would have to cross reference the part numbers.
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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2015, 06:24:18 PM » |
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My light came on the Other day stuck in traffic. Problem is. It was hot. Had to jump out of the lane to breeze it out. Light went off as soon as I got moving. Oil temp was well over 200.
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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2015, 08:14:57 PM » |
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My light came on the Other day stuck in traffic. Problem is. It was hot. Had to jump out of the lane to breeze it out. Light went off as soon as I got moving. Oil temp was well over 200.
hi paladin yes I understand but I was moving when it came on then off ,on stayed on the off and tonight coming back from work it was cool and it came on once while moving ,,that was 830 pm west of simcoe on ,,yea im in Canada to =thanks take care ride safe
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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2015, 08:18:44 PM » |
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It is located under the left side cover. I have no idea about the Wing, you would have to cross reference the part numbers.
thanks tundra you been a great help oh and on my way home at 830pm it was cool and light flickered once for a short time ,, I was moving at 90 kilo =50 mph ,,so like you say probably looking at connections or that part --thanks again west
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westnek
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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2015, 07:10:42 AM » |
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Here you go...2 minute fix, unplug old unit and plug in new unit. Qty. Part Number Price Per Item Special Order Product Name 1 38710-MZ0-003 $50.99 No Honda - INDICATOR UNIT  hi tundra west again I called 2 Honda dealers if I need this part which it seems I may,, honda has discontinued it ,I,m thinking now if I cant get it ,will the fan still come on automatically when needed and can I by- pass this function all together... I will try cleaning up connections and go from there thank you so much all you riders
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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2015, 08:37:18 AM » |
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My light came on the Other day stuck in traffic. Problem is. It was hot. Had to jump out of the lane to breeze it out. Light went off as soon as I got moving. Oil temp was well over 200.
Fan didn't turn on ?
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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2015, 11:13:56 AM » |
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My light came on the Other day stuck in traffic. Problem is. It was hot. Had to jump out of the lane to breeze it out. Light went off as soon as I got moving. Oil temp was well over 200.
Something seems wrong to me. I ride all summer long here, sometimes it gets up to 125*. I've never had the light come on. The fan always keeps the temp down even sitting at a light. Granted we don't have much traffic.
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« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2015, 02:12:06 PM » |
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My light came on the Other day stuck in traffic. Problem is. It was hot. Had to jump out of the lane to breeze it out. Oil temp was well over 200.
Fan didn't turn on ? yes fan came on ,today rode to get engine warmed up and sat idling and fan came on and went off and light went out after I rode for 1/4 mile but the light had come on earlier while riding and went off --on 'off before I stopped to idle bike...wasn't scorching hot this morning weather wise ==however maybe my imagination but engine seems hotter running hard. i'm starting to think maybe change thermostat to 160 to be safe -seems a lot of work has anyone changed thermostat and have any hints or short cuts and is it a [ good idea ??] thanks riders
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« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2015, 02:43:17 PM » |
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Normally the fan comes on and cools the engine and cuts off. During this process the light stays off. If the fan is not able to cool the engine and it continues to heat then the light comes on, indicating an overheat condition. Or if the fan fails to come on then at elevated heat the light turns on indicating an overheat condition.
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« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2015, 03:12:36 PM » |
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Normally the fan comes on and cools the engine and cuts off. During this process the light stays off. If the fan is not able to cool the engine and it continues to heat then the light comes on, indicating an overheat condition. Or if the fan fails to come on then at elevated heat the light turns on indicating an overheat condition.
i hear you pete but the light comes on when riding after a few kilos [10] then go's off.. its a on off situation and not regular, sort of when it feels like doing iast night when it was cool out it fickerd on for 30 seconds as I rode,that was at 845 pm,a nice summer evening =im thinking maybe the thermostat isn't opening far enough or as stated a short somewhere thanks pete
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« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2015, 05:26:35 PM » |
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All early (pre-2000) Valks do this. On mine it took 18 years to show up. As long as your fan still works, it is harmless. (A different sensor turns the fan on and off.) And since the part to fix the problem no longer is available there are three options: (1) Replace the temperature sending unit on the lower radiator hose mount with the newer style and modify the wiring harness so that it works. (2) Ignore the light. Once I learned the flickering is harmless the stupid light hasn't flickered since. (3) Remove the bulb.
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« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2015, 05:37:11 PM » |
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Normally the fan comes on and cools the engine and cuts off. During this process the light stays off. If the fan is not able to cool the engine and it continues to heat then the light comes on, indicating an overheat condition. Or if the fan fails to come on then at elevated heat the light turns on indicating an overheat condition.
i hear you pete but the light comes on when riding after a few kilos [10] then go's off.. its a on off situation and not regular, sort of when it feels like doing iast night when it was cool out it fickerd on for 30 seconds as I rode,that was at 845 pm,a nice summer evening =im thinking maybe the thermostat isn't opening far enough or as stated a short somewhere thanks pete If the thermostat was not working properly the fan would be coming on.
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« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2015, 07:27:09 PM » |
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All early (pre-2000) Valks do this. On mine it took 18 years to show up. As long as your fan still works, it is harmless. (A different sensor turns the fan on and off.) And since the part to fix the problem no longer is available there are three options: (1) Replace the temperature sending unit on the lower radiator hose mount with the newer style and modify the wiring harness so that it works. (2) Ignore the light. Once I learned the flickering is harmless the stupid light hasn't flickered since. (3) Remove the bulb.
This post is correct. The 'indicator unit' on early Valks failed often. Honda does not make the part any more. You can update to the new temp sensor (which has the indicator unit built in) and make a jumper wire to bypass the old unit. Or just ignore it.
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« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2015, 06:30:22 AM » |
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All early (pre-2000) Valks do this. On mine it took 18 years to show up. As long as your fan still works, it is harmless. (A different sensor turns the fan on and off.) And since the part to fix the problem no longer is available there are three options: (1) Replace the temperature sending unit on the lower radiator hose mount with the newer style and modify the wiring harness so that it works. (2) Ignore the light. Once I learned the flickering is harmless the stupid light hasn't flickered since. (3) Remove the bulb.
This post is correct. The 'indicator unit' on early Valks failed often. Honda does not make the part any more. You can update to the new temp sensor (which has the indicator unit built in) and make a jumper wire to bypass the old unit. Or just ignore it. thanks f6 dave that sounds like a plan you described ;;dumb old me ;;what steps do I take to find where this up dated part is to buy and to install properly or as spoff put it don't look at the light haha easy fix spoff I like that to -thanks valkers again a great bunch ''the best ''
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« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2015, 04:09:25 PM » |
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up-date but first thanks all for help -a great bunch here; in my 73 years I never had so much thankful help as ive had here with you all==I flushed cooling system added 50/50,took res tank off partly =left bottom hose on=tried to un hook item 16 ''indicator'' ,,I needed three hands but I wiggled wires massaged and moved item and sprayed a bit of WD on it ,started bike and top rad hose got hot when I burped it ,so im getting circulation ok -so - today [hot day ] rode for 20 miles /40kilos/ rad fan didnt come on at stop lights and red temp light didn't come on all the time I rode ,,only time fan came on was opening garage door left it idling and by time im in garage fan was on =thats normal ,so hopefully I can find a indicator in a scrap bike yard ==again joining this group was the smartest thing I did in my old age lol .. ?? how do you un hook that unit to clean it better or change it?? I don't want to break any wires or connections ==thank you to all ===if you all arn't the best ,,your better than the rest ==did I say that ?? ride safe all =west
I don't want to break any wires or clips on this connection SO?? do I squeeze in the holder clips on the side -or- pry those out then pull connection apart ??????? I'd hope to get another unit some where or clean this connection better when apart ,seems to me thank's to all I'm on the right track = thanks again ride safe
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