another 19 yr old killed by a cop

[98valk]

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/17/us/zachary-hammond-police-shooting-south-carolina.html?src=twr&_r=0

To Zachary Hammond’s supporters, the shooting death of the 19-year-old man was yet another example of questionable police behavior that has shaken communities around the country.

In their view, the police in Seneca, S.C., falsely claimed Mr. Hammond was shot last month as he tried to drive his car over the officer who fired on him, when his wounds show he was actually shot from the side and back.

They also say the deadly confrontation, in which officers approached with their guns drawn and screaming profanities, evolved from an absurd sting effort to trap his date into selling a tiny amount of marijuana, a drug now decriminalized in much of the country.

Yet the case has not received as much attention as the officer-involved shooting deaths of Walter L. Scott in North Charleston, S.C., or Samuel DuBose, a motorist who was killed in Cincinnati. Like both of those men, Mr. Hammond was apparently unarmed..........

[baldo]

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/17/us/zachary-hammond-police-shooting-south-carolina.html?src=twr&_r=0

To Zachary Hammond’s supporters, the shooting death of the 19-year-old man was yet another example of questionable police behavior that has shaken communities around the country.

In their view, the police in Seneca, S.C., falsely claimed Mr. Hammond was shot last month as he tried to drive his car over the officer who fired on him, when his wounds show he was actually shot from the side and back.

They also say the deadly confrontation, in which officers approached with their guns drawn and screaming profanities, evolved from an absurd sting effort to trap his date into selling a tiny amount of marijuana, a drug now decriminalized in much of the country.

Yet the case has not received as much attention as the officer-involved shooting deaths of Walter L. Scott in North Charleston, S.C., or Samuel DuBose, a motorist who was killed in Cincinnati. Like both of those men, Mr. Hammond was apparently unarmed..........

This has got to stop. I can't fathom what makes a cop shoot someone like this. Are they that cowardly, ignorant or evil? I'm talking about kids that have their hands in the air. Women that have their hands in the air. How about that woman, 8 1/2 months pregnant, that those cops made get out of her car and kneel in the road! Because her vehicle resembled a suspect's??? Hoe friggin stupid do you have to be? I can understand initial caution, but once determined that it's obvious they aren't the ones being sought, BACK THE F OFF, And PUT THE GD GUNS BACK WHERE THEY BELONG ! I just don't get it.

These cops need to be charged with murder, not given paid vacations. When the cops body cams or witness' video directly contradicts the cops' reports, that cop should be locked up like any other criminal.

Go ahead, flame away.

[Hooter]

Wasn't there so I can't pass judgement. But I will say one thing,,,,the attorney is right!

[G-Man]

This has got to stop. I can't fathom what makes a cop shoot someone like this.

This cop didn't shoot ....................  Yes, that's an officer of the law on the ground, while others took pictures and texted or posted them, but nobody helped him.  So tell me, where would your gun be?  Oh right, no gun, just a keyboard. 

[Patrick]

You do understand that the young Mr Hammond was white.  Video haven't been released yet as far as I know and I also don't know what the report contains. All I can say now is that apparently the police don't discriminate.

[baldo]

This has got to stop. I can't fathom what makes a cop shoot someone like this.

This cop didn't shoot ....................  Yes, that's an officer of the law on the ground, while others took pictures and texted or posted them, but nobody helped him.  So tell me, where would your gun be?  Oh right, no gun, just a keyboard. 

With this keyboard, let me ask this. How does anyone know this is a cop? I don't know anything about this instance, I don't recognize the photo. What's the story here?

[Gavin_Sons]

cop is chasing you, stop= not getting shot
cop is chasing you, run= get shot

pretty easy huh?

I guess if you dont listen to the police you can just run away and get away with whatever crime you commited. In my opinion if you run that is grounds for being shot no matter who you are. If you have nothing to be guilty of then why run?
I guess that makes me a racist and bigot though.   oh yeah he was white so i'm not a racist anymore.

[The emperor has no clothes]

cop is chasing you, stop= not getting shot
cop is chasing you, run= get shot

pretty easy huh?

I guess if you dont listen to the police you can just run away and get away with whatever crime you commited. In my opinion if you run that is grounds for being shot no matter who you are. If you have nothing to be guilty of then why run?
I guess that makes me a racist and bigot though.   oh yeah he was white so i'm not a racist anymore.

Man I'm glad you aren't a cop 

[cookiedough]

I don't agree shooting if no apparent gun on him/her and he/she runs away from the cops is all.  NO valid reason to fire a gun.  Plus, if fired a gun, why are not the cops good enough shots to wing him on the leg or somewhere not immediately life threatening? 

What I do agree on is why not use the tazer gun first, that should be done first no matter what unless you see a gun in his/her hands to defend yourself if the perp starts to point the gun your directions.  If that happens, fire away but ONLY until then.

[baldo]

cop is chasing you, stop= not getting shot
cop is chasing you, run= get shot

pretty easy huh?

I guess if you dont listen to the police you can just run away and get away with whatever crime you commited. In my opinion if you run that is grounds for being shot no matter who you are. If you have nothing to be guilty of then why run?
I guess that makes me a racist and bigot though.   oh yeah he was white so i'm not a racist anymore.

So, according to your logic, it's ok to for a cop to shoot someone in the back because they're running? What kind if world do you live in?

And I see you continue to play the 'call me a bigot or racist' game.

And there are plenty of instances where people are killed by cops while sitting in their cars, asleep in their beds, on their sofas watching tv. Shall I go on?

[henry 008]

remember in the old movies  STOP or i'll SHOOT! 

now its jus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNBG5lgh6Nw

[Patrick]

I don't agree shooting if no apparent gun on him/her and he/she runs away from the cops is all.  NO valid reason to fire a gun.  Plus, if fired a gun, why are not the cops good enough shots to wing him on the leg or somewhere not immediately life threatening? 

What I do agree on is why not use the tazer gun first, that should be done first no matter what unless you see a gun in his/her hands to defend yourself if the perp starts to point the gun your directions.  If that happens, fire away but ONLY until then.

Not all police forces have tazers.
What if the gun pointed at them happens to be a toy with the orange thingy blackened out [ painted].
Ever try to shoot at a moving object trying to just 'wing' it. Easy to say, not so easy to do.
Just a couple random thoughts that come to mind.

[solo1]

If you have ever fired a handgun, especially under stress, you know that trying to hit someone in the extremities is stuff outta movies.

All of this BS about shooting an unarmed man neglects to mention disparity of force and, no, I won't explain it here.

[signart]

Note to suspects: If you are in a car, you are armed. Don't challenge a cop when you are armed. He wants to go home, you just want to delay the inevitable.
Maybe they should start a class, they evidently don't watch the news.

[Gavin_Sons]

Note to suspects: If you are in a car, you are armed. Don't challenge a cop when you are armed. He wants to go home, you just want to delay the inevitable.
Maybe they should start a class, they evidently don't watch the news.

  while I'm not the biggest fan of police officers I know they are just doing their job so they can go home to their families. There are many corrupt police officers out there. And you are right, a vehicle is a weapon.

And Baldo, I live in this world unlike you and your crazy left logics. Or maybe it's my crazy right logics. I'm right in my own mind and you're wrong,  just as your right in your mind and im wrong. You want the crime to go unpunished and I want it to stop when they are caught red handed.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Note to suspects: If you are in a car, you are armed. Don't challenge a cop when you are armed. He wants to go home, you just want to delay the inevitable.
Maybe they should start a class, they evidently don't watch the news.

  while I'm not the biggest fan of police officers I know they are just doing their job so they can go home to their families. There are many corrupt police officers out there. And you are right, a vehicle is a weapon.

And Baldo, I live in this world unlike you and your crazy left logics. Or maybe it's my crazy right logics. I'm right in my own mind and you're wrong,  just as your right in your mind and im wrong. You want the crime to go unpunished and I want it to stop when they are caught red handed.

Its not a cops place to do the punishing. You seem to be advocating shooting someone in the back if they run for any reason. If a shoplifter steals a bottle booze and he runs from the cop it's justified to shoot him ?

[baldo]

Note to suspects: If you are in a car, you are armed. Don't challenge a cop when you are armed. He wants to go home, you just want to delay the inevitable.
Maybe they should start a class, they evidently don't watch the news.

  while I'm not the biggest fan of police officers I know they are just doing their job so they can go home to their families. There are many corrupt police officers out there. And you are right, a vehicle is a weapon.

And Baldo, I live in this world unlike you and your crazy left logics. Or maybe it's my crazy right logics. I'm right in my own mind and you're wrong,  just as your right in your mind and im wrong. You want the crime to go unpunished and I want it to stop when they are caught red handed.

Have you read my posts? I'm talking about innocent people being shot and killed by cops who are not held accountable. Nowhere have I said anything about criminals going unpunished. I'm talking about the 12 yr old in Cleveland shot dead, cops found not responsible. How about the 80 yr old man shot while he slept in his own bed, by a SWAT team in a no-knock raid, TO THE WRONG GD HOUSE ! Again, cops found to be not responsible. And let's not forget the toddler in his fing crib, mutilated by a flash bang thrown in his GD CRIB while he was sleeping. Again, a fing paid vacation. THAT'S what I'm talking about, not your ...I don't know what it is...

[Popeye]

Until you walk a mile in a cops shoes, I find it hard to pass judgement on them.

One of the toughest jobs in the world.

Our youngest son just started his career as a LEO and we are damn proud of him.  We hope he is never put in that position.

[Gavin_Sons]

Note to suspects: If you are in a car, you are armed. Don't challenge a cop when you are armed. He wants to go home, you just want to delay the inevitable.
Maybe they should start a class, they evidently don't watch the news.

  while I'm not the biggest fan of police officers I know they are just doing their job so they can go home to their families. There are many corrupt police officers out there. And you are right, a vehicle is a weapon.

And Baldo, I live in this world unlike you and your crazy left logics. Or maybe it's my crazy right logics. I'm right in my own mind and you're wrong,  just as your right in your mind and im wrong. You want the crime to go unpunished and I want it to stop when they are caught red handed.

Its not a cops place to do the punishing. You seem to be advocating shooting someone in the back if they run for any reason. If a shoplifter steals a bottle booze and he runs from the cop it's justified to shoot him ?

Exactly, if he runs. If he stops and cooperates then it's off to jail to live another day. I dont feel sorry for thieving scum bags at all or law breaking thugs.

[baldo]

Note to suspects: If you are in a car, you are armed. Don't challenge a cop when you are armed. He wants to go home, you just want to delay the inevitable.
Maybe they should start a class, they evidently don't watch the news.

  while I'm not the biggest fan of police officers I know they are just doing their job so they can go home to their families. There are many corrupt police officers out there. And you are right, a vehicle is a weapon.

And Baldo, I live in this world unlike you and your crazy left logics. Or maybe it's my crazy right logics. I'm right in my own mind and you're wrong,  just as your right in your mind and im wrong. You want the crime to go unpunished and I want it to stop when they are caught red handed.

Its not a cops place to do the punishing. You seem to be advocating shooting someone in the back if they run for any reason. If a shoplifter steals a bottle booze and he runs from the cop it's justified to shoot him ?

Exactly, if he runs. If he stops and cooperates then it's off to jail to live another day. I dont feel sorry for thieving scum bags at all or law breaking thugs.

Glad you're not a cop....I suspect you'd be getting some paid vacations at some point in your career.

[Gavin_Sons]

Note to suspects: If you are in a car, you are armed. Don't challenge a cop when you are armed. He wants to go home, you just want to delay the inevitable.
Maybe they should start a class, they evidently don't watch the news.

  while I'm not the biggest fan of police officers I know they are just doing their job so they can go home to their families. There are many corrupt police officers out there. And you are right, a vehicle is a weapon.

And Baldo, I live in this world unlike you and your crazy left logics. Or maybe it's my crazy right logics. I'm right in my own mind and you're wrong,  just as your right in your mind and im wrong. You want the crime to go unpunished and I want it to stop when they are caught red handed.

Have you read my posts? I'm talking about innocent people being shot and killed by cops who are not held accountable. Nowhere have I said anything about criminals going unpunished. I'm talking about the 12 yr old in Cleveland shot dead, cops found not responsible. How about the 80 yr old man shot while he slept in his own bed, by a SWAT team in a no-knock raid, TO THE WRONG GD HOUSE ! Again, cops found to be not responsible. And let's not forget the toddler in his fing crib, mutilated by a flash bang thrown in his GD CRIB while he was sleeping. Again, a fing paid vacation. THAT'S what I'm talking about, not your ...I don't know what it is...

Any links to these stories? I do know some police get off way too easy. I'm probably one of the biggest police bashers there is just because I don't trust 90% of them. But when someome is trying to run them down in a car I see nothing wrong with them using lethal force to stop it. They have families to go home to just like we do. And you really can't judge a cop unless you have been in that situation.  You have 1 second to decide to shhot or not knowing it could change someones life forever.

[Gavin_Sons]

Note to suspects: If you are in a car, you are armed. Don't challenge a cop when you are armed. He wants to go home, you just want to delay the inevitable.
Maybe they should start a class, they evidently don't watch the news.

  while I'm not the biggest fan of police officers I know they are just doing their job so they can go home to their families. There are many corrupt police officers out there. And you are right, a vehicle is a weapon.

And Baldo, I live in this world unlike you and your crazy left logics. Or maybe it's my crazy right logics. I'm right in my own mind and you're wrong,  just as your right in your mind and im wrong. You want the crime to go unpunished and I want it to stop when they are caught red handed.

Its not a cops place to do the punishing. You seem to be advocating shooting someone in the back if they run for any reason. If a shoplifter steals a bottle booze and he runs from the cop it's justified to shoot him ?

Exactly, if he runs. If he stops and cooperates then it's off to jail to live another day. I dont feel sorry for thieving scum bags at all or law breaking thugs.

Glad you're not a cop....I suspect you'd be getting some paid vacations at some point in your career.

  I like paid vacations

[baldo]

Note to suspects: If you are in a car, you are armed. Don't challenge a cop when you are armed. He wants to go home, you just want to delay the inevitable.
Maybe they should start a class, they evidently don't watch the news.

  while I'm not the biggest fan of police officers I know they are just doing their job so they can go home to their families. There are many corrupt police officers out there. And you are right, a vehicle is a weapon.

And Baldo, I live in this world unlike you and your crazy left logics. Or maybe it's my crazy right logics. I'm right in my own mind and you're wrong,  just as your right in your mind and im wrong. You want the crime to go unpunished and I want it to stop when they are caught red handed.

Have you read my posts? I'm talking about innocent people being shot and killed by cops who are not held accountable. Nowhere have I said anything about criminals going unpunished. I'm talking about the 12 yr old in Cleveland shot dead, cops found not responsible. How about the 80 yr old man shot while he slept in his own bed, by a SWAT team in a no-knock raid, TO THE WRONG GD HOUSE ! Again, cops found to be not responsible. And let's not forget the toddler in his fing crib, mutilated by a flash bang thrown in his GD CRIB while he was sleeping. Again, a fing paid vacation. THAT'S what I'm talking about, not your ...I don't know what it is...

Any links to these stories? I do know some police get off way too easy. I'm probably one of the biggest police bashers there is just because I don't trust 90% of them. But when someome is trying to run them down in a car I see nothing wrong with them using lethal force to stop it. They have families to go home to just like we do. And you really can't judge a cop unless you have been in that situation.  You have 1 second to decide to shhot or not knowing it could change someones life forever.

12 yr old Tamir Rice.... take your pick... https://www.google.com/search?q=tamir+rice&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

man shot in bed...... https://www.google.com/search?q=80+yr+old+man+shot+in+bed&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

flash bang toddler....   https://www.google.com/search?q=flash+bang+toddler&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

Want more? They're not very hard to find. THIS is what I have a huge hardon for (I wish).... I know cops have a tough job. I'm talking about the ones that think just because they have a badge and a gun, that they're invincible and untouchable. That they can do whatever the hell they want, because they'll never be held accountable. I'm not talking about people that drive a car at a cop. That's stupid and they're going to be sorry. I'm not talking about people that raise a gun to a cop. Again, they've chosen poorly.

[baldo]

Note to suspects: If you are in a car, you are armed. Don't challenge a cop when you are armed. He wants to go home, you just want to delay the inevitable.
Maybe they should start a class, they evidently don't watch the news.

  while I'm not the biggest fan of police officers I know they are just doing their job so they can go home to their families. There are many corrupt police officers out there. And you are right, a vehicle is a weapon.

And Baldo, I live in this world unlike you and your crazy left logics. Or maybe it's my crazy right logics. I'm right in my own mind and you're wrong,  just as your right in your mind and im wrong. You want the crime to go unpunished and I want it to stop when they are caught red handed.

Its not a cops place to do the punishing. You seem to be advocating shooting someone in the back if they run for any reason. If a shoplifter steals a bottle booze and he runs from the cop it's justified to shoot him ?

Exactly, if he runs. If he stops and cooperates then it's off to jail to live another day. I dont feel sorry for thieving scum bags at all or law breaking thugs.

Glad you're not a cop....I suspect you'd be getting some paid vacations at some point in your career.

  I like paid vacations

cute

[The emperor has no clothes]

Until you walk a mile in a cops shoes, I find it hard to pass judgement on them.

One of the toughest jobs in the world.

Our youngest son just started his career as a LEO and we are damn proud of him.  We hope he is never put in that position.

You have every right to be proud   And I also hope he is never in that position. I'm sure 99% of cops are honest, hardworking, and moral. It's just that 1% that we need to take care of.

Note to suspects: If you are in a car, you are armed. Don't challenge a cop when you are armed. He wants to go home, you just want to delay the inevitable.
Maybe they should start a class, they evidently don't watch the news.

  while I'm not the biggest fan of police officers I know they are just doing their job so they can go home to their families. There are many corrupt police officers out there. And you are right, a vehicle is a weapon.

And Baldo, I live in this world unlike you and your crazy left logics. Or maybe it's my crazy right logics. I'm right in my own mind and you're wrong,  just as your right in your mind and im wrong. You want the crime to go unpunished and I want it to stop when they are caught red handed.

Its not a cops place to do the punishing. You seem to be advocating shooting someone in the back if they run for any reason. If a shoplifter steals a bottle booze and he runs from the cop it's justified to shoot him ?

Exactly, if he runs. If he stops and cooperates then it's off to jail to live another day. I dont feel sorry for thieving scum bags at all or law breaking thugs.

Well thank god the police dept. has pysch tests to disqualify those such as you  

[baldo]

[/quote]Well thank god the police dept. has pysch tests to disqualify those such as you  
[/quote]

Unfortunately,  I don't think that works too well.....  https://www.google.com/search?q=police+want+low+iq&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8


Man, I really messed that one up...

[Gavin_Sons]

So we really see this the same way. We just had to argue a bit to getto that point.   and I really do like paid vacations, just had one last month, took a few days and went to the smokey mountains on the bike.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Its not a cops place to do the punishing. You seem to be advocating shooting someone in the back if they run for any reason. If a shoplifter steals a bottle booze and he runs from the cop it's justified to shoot him ?
[/quote]

Exactly, if he runs. If he stops and cooperates then it's off to jail to live another day. I dont feel sorry for thieving scum bags at all or law breaking thugs.
[/quote]You might consider living in a Totalitarian society like N.Korea or Myanmar . I'm sure you would be more comfortable than our mamby pamby country .

[Gavin_Sons]

Until you walk a mile in a cops shoes, I find it hard to pass judgement on them.

One of the toughest jobs in the world.

Our youngest son just started his career as a LEO and we are damn proud of him.  We hope he is never put in that position.

You have every right to be proud   And I also hope he is never in that position. I'm sure 99% of cops are honest, hardworking, and moral. It's just that 1% that we need to take care of.

Note to suspects: If you are in a car, you are armed. Don't challenge a cop when you are armed. He wants to go home, you just want to delay the inevitable.
Maybe they should start a class, they evidently don't watch the news.

  while I'm not the biggest fan of police officers I know they are just doing their job so they can go home to their families. There are many corrupt police officers out there. And you are right, a vehicle is a weapon.

And Baldo, I live in this world unlike you and your crazy left logics. Or maybe it's my crazy right logics. I'm right in my own mind and you're wrong,  just as your right in your mind and im wrong. You want the crime to go unpunished and I want it to stop when they are caught red handed.

Its not a cops place to do the punishing. You seem to be advocating shooting someone in the back if they run for any reason. If a shoplifter steals a bottle booze and he runs from the cop it's justified to shoot him ?

Exactly, if he runs. If he stops and cooperates then it's off to jail to live another day. I dont feel sorry for thieving scum bags at all or law breaking thugs.

Well thank god the police dept. has pysch tests to disqualify those such as you  

You called me a psycho! Thats against the rules of the road. My feelings are hurt.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I'm sure they are 

[Gavin_Sons]

I'm sure they are 

  good discussion guys, lets have another tomorrow.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I'm sure they are 

  good discussion guys, lets have another tomorrow.

Thanks anyway. I think I'll pass. 

[Gavin_Sons]

I'm sure they are 

  good discussion guys, lets have another tomorrow.

Thanks anyway. I think I'll pass. 

Oh come on, it was fun.

[baldo]

I'm sure they are 

  good discussion guys, lets have another tomorrow.

Thanks anyway. I think I'll pass. 

Oh come on, it was fun.

Yeah, fun like...it was just a joke....

[rainman]

after reading all that has been said on this post.  I am with gavin run=death, stop=you live another day.    The talk in every city is (we need to fine a way to stop crime) the answer is shot and ask questions later. with all the drugs, gangs and illegal guns that are in the hands of gang members and everyone else  why shouldn't a cop or anyone else not feel threaded on the streets so again if you run your guilty
in my home town the police are really good shots in front of a paper target.  I have shoot with them many of times and I am expert with a pistol. I at one time worked with some of the officers on there shoot skills will not go into all the details.  But I can say this unless you are a cop you don't know what the feeling is when you walk up to a car you have to be ready for any thing and every thing to go wrong that means hands on your gun.

[Gavin_Sons]

after reading all that has been said on this post.  I am with gavin run=death, stop=you live another day.    The talk in every city is (we need to fine a way to stop crime) the answer is shot and ask questions later. with all the drugs, gangs and illegal guns that are in the hands of gang members and everyone else  why shouldn't a cop or anyone else not feel threaded on the streets so again if you run your guilty
in my home town the police are really good shots in front of a paper target.  I have shoot with them many of times and I am expert with a pistol. I at one time worked with some of the officers on there shoot skills will not go into all the details.  But I can say this unless you are a cop you don't know what the feeling is when you walk up to a car you have to be ready for any thing and every thing to go wrong that means hands on your gun.

Oh crap, you did it now. I'm going to go prepare for the firestorm.

[The emperor has no clothes]

after reading all that has been said on this post.  I am with gavin run=death, stop=you live another day.    The talk in every city is (we need to fine a way to stop crime) the answer is shot and ask questions later. with all the drugs, gangs and illegal guns that are in the hands of gang members and everyone else  why shouldn't a cop or anyone else not feel threaded on the streets so again if you run your guilty
in my home town the police are really good shots in front of a paper target.  I have shoot with them many of times and I am expert with a pistol. I at one time worked with some of the officers on there shoot skills will not go into all the details.  But I can say this unless you are a cop you don't know what the feeling is when you walk up to a car you have to be ready for any thing and every thing to go wrong that means hands on your gun.

I have no problem with cops defending themselves . Shooting a shoplifter or anybody who is running away and poses no threat to the police officer in the back is not defending your self. As a hypothetical , let's say someone has an outstanding warrant for not paying a speeding ticket. Let's say that person gets stopped by a cop for having a tail light out. He thinks he is going to jail and he jumps out of the car unarmed and runs across a field to get away from the cop. The cop shoots him in the back. Yes it was not good judgement on his part but it does not warrant DEATH. You guys who are advocating people being shot for running from the cops a freaking nuts. I know I'm not the only person who used bad judgement in my youth. But when I was 13 or 14 myself and some friends stockpiled a bunch of snowballs behind a snow bank on Halloween. We would blast cars when they came by. Somebody got pissed (as well they should have) and called the cops. When we saw him coming we ran like hell. It was pitch dark. I'm sure he couldn't tell if we were adults or not. Thankfully he didn't shoot us in the back. He did do some tracking and followed our tracks back to are neighborhood and found out who we were and talked to our parents. Which resulted in some pretty harsh punishment from our Dads. As it should have. But my point is in this scenario you guys would have us killed for throwing snowballs at cars. 

[fudgie]

If a shoplifter steals a bottle booze and he runs from the cop it's justified to shoot him ?

Better not be a bottle of Jack!

[The emperor has no clothes]

If a shoplifter steals a bottle booze and he runs from the cop it's justified to shoot him ?

Better not be a bottle of Jack!

No for some reason they always try to steal the cheap crap.  

[fudgie]

If a shoplifter steals a bottle booze and he runs from the cop it's justified to shoot him ?

Better not be a bottle of Jack!

No for some reason they always try to steal the cheap crap.  

Oh that made me laugh!