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« on: August 19, 2015, 06:23:38 PM » |
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With my cancer, chemo and radiation, I haven't been able to ride the bike hardly at all. However, whenever I haven't been able to ride it, I've been starting it up a couple times a week to get some gas flowing through the carbs and just to make sure everything is still alright.
Yesterday, went out to the garage and started the bike. Within a minute, fuel started flowing all over the garage floor.
What just happened and what do I have to do/need to do to fix it?
I suppose the first thing is to pull the tank and then the air box.....but then, where do I go from there?
I know I've read about this before, but I'm not exactly sure what to search for to get me on the right path to fixing her.
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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2015, 06:42:01 PM » |
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Any idea of where the leak is coming from? Fuel line? Petcock? Overflow tube? I've always enjoyed looking at your bike, it's very cool 
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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2015, 06:51:07 PM » |
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Any idea of where the leak is coming from? Fuel line? Petcock? Overflow tube? I've always enjoyed looking at your bike, it's very cool  No, I don't yet. I didn't have time to take a closer look....and with work, doctors visits and going to radiation everyday, I probably won't have a chance to look at until Monday next week. Gas was pouring out on the floor from the front of the bike.....at first, I thought I had a water leak from the hose.
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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2015, 07:15:57 PM » |
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Sounds like the fuel rail o-rings. It's happened a couple times to me on my Standard. I don't ride it much since I got my I/S. Mine has quit leaking after a day of having fuel saturate the o-rings. If not that I would say a float is hanging up. If so you might get it to stop by tapping carb bowl with the handle of a screwdriver . Go start her up tomorrow and see if it's still leaking. Good Luck 
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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2015, 08:04:55 PM » |
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An old trick I totally forgot about over the years but was recently reminded.....add a little marvel mystery oil or some tranny fluid to the gas. It makes the o-rings swell a bit until you get a chance to pull the carbs and replace them. The o-rings are dried out from sitting too long, I'll bet if you run it for a bit, shut it down and let it sit then go back out a few hours later or next day.....it won't leak.
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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2015, 08:17:02 PM » |
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The o-rings are dried out from sitting too long, I'll bet if you run it for a bit, shut it down and let it sit then go back out a few hours later or next day.....it won't leak.
Maybe after the fuel has evaporated. Then try it again.
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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2015, 09:29:43 PM » |
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I dunno, BF. It sure sounds like it could be a stuck float, too. Might try giving the bowls a coupla raps with the butt of a screwdriver. Sometimes, that's all it takes to free up a float...(if that's what it is).
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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2015, 04:40:28 AM » |
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Tap the bowls with the plastic end of a large heavy screwdriver. That will sometimes cause the float valve to release. It may have sat too long and it can't slide back up to shut off the fuel.
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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2015, 05:57:57 AM » |
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Sounds like the fuel rail o-rings. It's happened a couple times to me on my Standard. I don't ride it much since I got my I/S. Mine has quit leaking after a day of having fuel saturate the o-rings. If not that I would say a float is hanging up. If so you might get it to stop by tapping carb bowl with the handle of a screwdriver . Go start her up tomorrow and see if it's still leaking. Good Luck  BF sorry to hear of your illness, get well soon. I agree with Meathead , your orings have dried but should be swollen closed after the leakage. I've had this happen to my bike after a few weeks of non use.
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« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2015, 06:07:16 AM » |
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Stuck float?
Wouldn't that put him in great peril of HYDROLOCKING that engine on his next start attempt?
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« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2015, 06:30:54 AM » |
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BF, it might be a stuck float or it can be the fuel rings, but judging from the description from your posts I'm leaning more towards a stuck float. Either way I would recommend not hitting the starter button till the time you pull all the spark plugs out.
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« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2015, 07:19:11 AM » |
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I have to go to radiation this afternoon after work, but I'll try pulling all the plus and see if I have gas there.
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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2015, 09:39:24 PM » |
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I'm leaning toward the O rings. The previous owner of my 98 Tourer let it set for quite a while before I bought it. No amount of getting gas on the rings would prevent a gasoline waterfall. I didn't know about the Marvel Mystery oil trick, so I pulled the carbs and serviced them. No leak since.
I'll pray for you to beat that ugly disease.
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« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2015, 06:58:06 AM » |
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Use a flashlight to look at the fuel rails while the bike is running. If you see fuel dripping on top of the carb bank it's o-rings. If the fuel is coming from the overflow vent below the bike it's a stuck float. Had both situations before. But I'll pray for you to be healed first. Hang in there brother....
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« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2015, 05:12:17 PM » |
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I finally got around to pulling the plugs and turning the motor over. It's NOT hydrolocked. WOO HOO.
I assume that it's the fuel rail O-rings.
Is there a tutorial on replacing the fuel rail O-rings somewhere, Shop Talk maybe? I looked in there but unless I just missed it, I didn't see anything in there on replacing the fuel rail O-rings.
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« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2015, 05:38:59 PM » |
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I finally got around to pulling the plugs and turning the motor over. It's NOT hydrolocked. WOO HOO.
I assume that it's the fuel rail O-rings.
Is there a tutorial on replacing the fuel rail O-rings somewhere, Shop Talk maybe? I looked in there but unless I just missed it, I didn't see anything in there on replacing the fuel rail O-rings.
I haven't seen one either. I do know some guys have had issues getting them apart. Have you tried getting the gas in the lines and letting them swell back up ? I think it would be worth a shot vs. taking the carbs out.
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« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2015, 02:12:08 PM » |
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I finally got around to pulling the plugs and turning the motor over. It's NOT hydrolocked. WOO HOO.
I assume that it's the fuel rail O-rings.
Is there a tutorial on replacing the fuel rail O-rings somewhere, Shop Talk maybe? I looked in there but unless I just missed it, I didn't see anything in there on replacing the fuel rail O-rings.
I haven't seen one either. I do know some guys have had issues getting them apart. Have you tried getting the gas in the lines and letting them swell back up ? I think it would be worth a shot vs. taking the carbs out. Not sure how to do that.....other than running the bike once or twice a day to flow fuel thru everything. Is that what you mean MH? So far, since last night, I've cranked the bike once for less than a minute after putting the plugs back in. Still getting some fuel....although it might not be as much as the flood that was happening before. But then again, I didn't run the bike all that long last night either.
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« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2015, 02:24:38 PM » |
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BF, when it happened on my standard it was because it had sat for a long time and the fuel had evaporated some. After I started it and fuel was back thru everything it leaked. I shut her off and turned off the petcock and let it sit for a day. On that day it still had a very slight leak, so I did it again. The second day everything was good. Some have explained it as the orings shrink without fuel on them. Probably the age of the o-rings doesn't help either. But it's worth trying. Taking the carbs out and all apart is a pretty big job.
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« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2015, 02:36:16 PM » |
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BF, when it happened on my standard it was because it had sat for a long time and the fuel had evaporated some. After I started it and fuel was back thru everything it leaked. I shut her off and turned off the petcock and let it sit for a day. On that day it still had a very slight leak, so I did it again. The second day everything was good. Some have explained it as the orings shrink without fuel on them. Probably the age of the o-rings doesn't help either. But it's worth trying. Taking the carbs out and all apart is a pretty big job.
Exactly....that part isn't something I'm all that comfortable doing. I'll keep running fuel thru it for several days and see what happens. Thanks for the tip. 
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