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thedon
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« on: November 08, 2015, 12:15:09 PM »

Need to get my 97 trike winterized. Had not started it in a couple of weeks. Yep, battery very low. Wouldn't start before battery started dying. Well, ok I'll just jump it. The key was always hard to turn to take off the seat, but I always could do it. Now, it won't turn enough to release the seat. Tried pushing down as I was turning the key. Nothing.
Question, is there another way to get the seat off? Or get to the battery to change it?
Any help would be appreciated.

Don
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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2015, 01:12:02 PM »

I believe you remove one of the side covers, I recall the LH side, and you can see the release cable to the lock.
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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2015, 01:41:46 PM »

Have you tried spraying some lubricant into the seat lock?
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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2015, 03:44:41 PM »

Yes, lock eze and also WD-40 still nothing. It's like it will only turn part way, not enough to release.
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« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2015, 04:39:28 PM »

Thedon

Send me your e-mail address and I will send the info. I will not post it on the board because I don't think it is info that the world needs to know .   Remove the obvious from the e-mail address

oylcanREMOVETHIS@shaw.ca

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« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2015, 04:51:12 PM »

Sent.
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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2015, 04:54:55 PM »

Thedon

Send me your e-mail address and I will send the info. I will not post it on the board because I don't think it is info that the world needs to know .   Remove the obvious from the e-mail address

oylcanREMOVETHIS@shaw.ca

Dusty
Any chance you'd be willing to send it to my email also ? No problems yet but it would be good info to know if dead in the water 1/2 way across the desert. My email is in my profile. Thanks  cooldude
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« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2015, 05:52:29 PM »

Thedon

 Your e-mail never arrived . I Sent to your PM .

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« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2015, 06:27:04 PM »

Dusty, thank you  cooldude It looks like we have a green & silver I/S in common. I like your braided stainless over your wire looms  cooldude
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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2015, 11:21:50 AM »

Remove RHS side cover, lie down alongside bike with a torch and flat blade screwdriver. At top of frame is a small gap shine torch into gap see mechanism and release with the screwdriver.takes about 3 minutes.
Then when seat is off put cable tie through lock and route it through front so that it sits above seat release key hole. Then next time just pull on the cable tie and off she comes.  Total jobless than 10 minutes.
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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2015, 12:01:20 PM »

Here in the USA , a "torch" involves FIRE...he might want to use a FLASHLIGHT instead...haha
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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2015, 02:18:43 PM »

Dusty, Thanks a bunch. Will try soon, as I don't get home until after dark and no electricity in unattached garage.
Meathead, thanks for your input.
One of them has to work.

Don
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« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2015, 06:10:00 PM »

Here in the USA , a "torch" involves FIRE...he might want to use a FLASHLIGHT instead...haha

Oxy/acetylene would not help here
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« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2015, 07:13:19 AM »

Here in the USA , a "torch" involves FIRE...he might want to use a FLASHLIGHT instead...haha

I bet he keeps his torch in the boot to use when looking under the bonnet.  Cheesy
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« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2015, 07:57:42 AM »

Thedon

Send me your e-mail address and I will send the info. I will not post it on the board because I don't think it is info that the world needs to know .   Remove the obvious from the e-mail address

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Dusty

Curious, why is "the world" not worthy of knowing how to simply release your seat lock if the key doesn't work. Emailing a reply defeats the entire purpose of the forum.
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« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2015, 09:15:53 AM »

Golly gosh Budman, just using the Queens' English my old mate. After all she is the longest serving monarch ever so could just be correct eh
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« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2015, 09:16:54 AM »

Thedon

Send me your e-mail address and I will send the info. I will not post it on the board because I don't think it is info that the world needs to know .   Remove the obvious from the e-mail address

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Dusty

Curious, why is "the world" not worthy of knowing how to simply release your seat lock if the key doesn't work. Emailing a reply defeats the entire purpose of the forum.

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« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2015, 07:49:38 PM »

My seat lock works which helps slightly from someone stealing my seat or my radio or CB or battery or hotwiring my bike. I will not tell the world how to override my lock . If someone wants to steal it they will have to figure it out themselves.      cooldude

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« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2015, 06:51:55 AM »

We got the seat off  cooldude

The reason the seat would not come off was more to do with the fact that it was a Mustang seat, on a Trike.  Mustang seats have two rubber  'bumpers' that rest on the frame (below the nose of the seat), and in some cases they are just a tad too long, there by causing too much up force on the 'latch' of the seat.  I did use the method Dusty had sent to Don, but it's not a big secret...  Using a longer flat blade screw driver, it is just a matter of applying enough 'push' at the back of the latch (accessed through the left after removing the side cover), while pushing down on the nose of the seat, then turning the key.

Once the seat was off, I shaved about 1/8" off of each of the rubber bumpers that rest on the frame.  With those bumpers 'shaved down' a bit, the seat goes on and off as it should.

In some cases (no matter the seat type) the cable may be corroded or otherwise messed up.  It is then that the 'screw driver' method would come in very handy  Wink

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« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2015, 08:13:27 AM »

Just to add my two cents here, my seat lock was sticking and I discovered that the problem was not the key but the latch at the top.  I lubed it with aerosol white lithium grease, which made it work well for a few weeks.  The latch is sticking again, so when I get around to it I'm going to clean it with electrical contact cleaner, then lube it with Lock-Ease (graphite).  The fluid evaporates, leaving the graphite.  I hope that will do the job.

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« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2015, 05:29:08 AM »

Recently had issues with my seat lock as well, eventually the cast part of the latch attached to the frame broke. Purchased a new one and tried in vain to re-attach the cable to the release latch (can't get hand in there well enough to manoeuvre properly). Tried removing the centre cover to get better access, again in vain. Removed the bolts on each side but it is still attached... any ideas as to what I am I missing?

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« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2015, 10:40:37 AM »

Like I said use a cable tie, resolve the problem and get back to riding, only you will know the key has been bypassed.
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« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2015, 06:28:08 PM »

BIG Thank you to Black Dog. The key now works easy and the seat comes right off.
Awesome job !!

Thanks again,

Don
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