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Author Topic: Time for Pumpkin Fun.... any advice??  (Read 843 times)
hoppy
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« on: November 13, 2015, 11:52:03 AM »

The spines on my pumpkin have just been getting worse and worse at every wheel-off (3 times per darkside tire changeout).

I inherited this mess at 14K, and didn't change tires myself till 25ish, at which point it became obvious that things were getting progressively worse.  We are at 52K now.

Religiously do the O-rings and BelRay at each interval, but still getting ongoing wear.  It's gotten to the point that it's time to try to rebuild it.  I'm putting it back together for now, but will be pulling it back apart very soon.

I'm planning on replacing the gearset in the pumpkin, the starfish that goes in the wheel, and the dampeners.

I have quite no clue why I get progressive wear in spite of the rituals.  I suppose there is some alignment issue that is happening, or just that there is enough slop to progress the wearing??

I imagine it will be at or above my tools/ability, but wanting to give that a try in favor of going salvage.  Maybe something will be learned.

Any tips/pointers/advice would be appreciated.

Also if somebody has one of these that has trashed splines they don't intend to repair, I might be willing to buy it from ya so I have a bit more time to work through this.

Thanks,
Hoppy (Houston Tx area)
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98valk
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« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2015, 01:18:05 PM »


Religiously do the O-rings and BelRay at each interval, but still getting ongoing wear. 


sorry to hear about your troubles.  :'(
bad wear has been attributed to incorrect re-assembly. see Tech manual for correct procedure.
This is why the Honda Engineers spec'd a 65+% moly paste be used.
IMHO suggest u read up on moly and what it is and does, so u don't have to go through this again.   Using the paste allows for a re-lube every 40k miles per high end Goldwing mechanics. Honda actually issued a service bulletin for using moly.
http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Shaft.html#Splines

I use TS-70 moly paste.
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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2015, 05:09:41 AM »

The spines on my pumpkin have just been getting worse and worse at every wheel-off (3 times per darkside tire changeout).

I inherited this mess at 14K, and didn't change tires myself till 25ish, at which point it became obvious that things were getting progressively worse.  We are at 52K now.

Religiously do the O-rings and BelRay at each interval, but still getting ongoing wear.  It's gotten to the point that it's time to try to rebuild it.  I'm putting it back together for now, but will be pulling it back apart very soon.

I'm planning on replacing the gearset in the pumpkin, the starfish that goes in the wheel, and the dampeners.

I have quite no clue why I get progressive wear in spite of the rituals.  I suppose there is some alignment issue that is happening, or just that there is enough slop to progress the wearing??

I imagine it will be at or above my tools/ability, but wanting to give that a try in favor of going salvage.  Maybe something will be learned.

Any tips/pointers/advice would be appreciated.

Also if somebody has one of these that has trashed splines they don't intend to repair, I might be willing to buy it from ya so I have a bit more time to work through this.

Thanks,
Hoppy (Houston Tx area)


I've got one that is useable but worn I gave $ 100.00 for it from another VRCC member and later bought another one that came off a low mile crashed bike.... I'll take $ 100.00 plus shipping for it... If interested let me know and I'll get you some detailed pictures just wanting to break even on this.
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« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2015, 04:30:15 AM »

I recently went through the same repair on my '01 Valk. After much research and asking questions on this site, I found a less expensive way to do it. I bought a "Good" complete used differential with driven flange for a '90-2000 Goldwing off ebay, pressed the spline cup out of the ring gear from the GW ring gear and used it into my Valk ring gear (Honda does not show this as a separate part, but it is able to be pressed out). The spline cups are the same as is the driven flange, but the gears are different. Make sure that you use your original ring gear shim from your Valk, this will give you proper alignment of your gears. Also make sure that the oring inside the spline cup is good. Goldwing differentials are easy to find because so many of those bikes have been triked, and there are just more salvaged parts available for them  period. This method will save you a bucket of money and other than the press work is a fairly straight forward  job.  Good luck
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